Why does this keep happening?

[corrector]

Like some doing some really deep introspective searching within yourself bro.

What you need to stop doing is blaming THEM. You can't figure this out if you are unwilling to take responsibility for what is happening.

Can't you see this guy is already into deep introspection. He has everything calculated in this threads.

The LMS argument would suggests he is "looks-deficient". My guess is if I were him I'd spray on pheromones because I would have nothing to lose. When you have nothing to lose and feel like banging you head against the wall, then that's the time to spray stuff like that on. Hopefully you'll attract some hits that way.

 

[SoSuave666]

I think you’re on the spectrum. Your social cues aren’t calibrating correctly. On top of that you have a weird sense of self, always talking about how good of a catch you are and how fit/attractive you are. When in fact we have seen your photos on this site before and it’s simply not the case.

A lot of people have given you great advice in your previous threads. You simply don’t follow it and come here to complain. I really think you need to re-evaluate yourself, otherwise the cycle will continue and we will see you back here next week posting the same type of post all over again.

 

[Speculator E]

I think you’re on the spectrum. Your social cues aren’t calibrating correctly. On top of that you have a weird sense of self, always talking about how good of a catch you are and how fit/attractive you are. When in fact we have seen your photos on this site before and it’s simply not the case.

A lot of people have given you great advice in your previous threads. You simply don’t follow it and come here to complain. I really think you need to re-evaluate yourself, otherwise the cycle will continue and we will see you back here next week posting the same type of post all over again.

Is he ugly? If he has personality disorder, we can't help him.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

You realize you are disrespecting a guy under 30 who has this list of qualities

- 6'4"
- in fantastic shape
- college eduated
- applying for physical therapy school
- doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs
- house paid off
- 5 figure crypto portfolio
on and on and on

Repeated narcissism, like a broken record. We have all heard 100x times all of your "amazing qualities." While it's good for you to acknowledge your accomplishments (to yourself), it is clearly not healthy when you enjoy repeating them 100x to everyone, often in the same thread. This is not normal behavior and is a symptom of a problem you need to get fixed. You've been told that 1000x before but have shown no sign of changing. Do you literally EVER see another guy on this forum repeatedly post a bullet-point list of his amazing qualities? And we have some pretty crazy people on this forum. What does that tell you?? Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but of all the things you've listed, really the first two are the only things a woman in the USA in 2019 is going to care much about. They don't need you to provide for them anymore. They are capable of providing for themselves.

#perfect catch and if all that isn't enough for these *****s something is wrong.

You keep saying this over and over again as well. If women are not attracted to what YOU believe they SHOULD be attracted to then your response is to become ANGRY and BLAME them then call them b*tches. Again, multiple signs of a serious problem in you that you need to seek professional therapy to address. Women are fvcking EXPERTS at sniffing out specific negative behaviors and it seems to me they are sniffing you out very quickly through your interactions with them. My guess is they sniff a vibe from you that you are going to be the kind of guy who blows up their phone and then shows up in their front yard looking in their window or becomes violent when they dump you. The way you talk about how great you are and how women SHOULD want this or that and how they are b*tches when they don't follow your entitled opinion leads me to this conclusion, and likely leads women to the same conclusion. You think a woman who has that opinion of you is going to reject your 6'4" self to your face? Nawwwwwww mate.

You need to remove the word "should" from your vocabulary entirely. It doesn't fvcking matter ONE bit what YOU THINK they should want! And despite all the benefits you are touting on repeat, you also clearly have some negative behaviors that you are either trying to hide, or are simply unaware of that OVERRIDE your good qualities and that's all that matters.

I don't even know why I keep replying to your threads because I'm not saying anything new and the advice is never taken. You literally ignore the advice given and instead argue about how you are doing everything right and the problem is women.

Entitlement gets you nowhere but a downward spiral of anger and negativity. Learn to accept that you have an issue you need help with and seek the professional help that will make you happier in life.

 

[MrWood]

I dont see where I disrespected you, but ok.

 

[SoSuave666]

Repeated narcissism, like a broken record. We have all heard 100x times all of your "amazing qualities." While it's good for you to acknowledge your accomplishments (to yourself), it is clearly not healthy when you enjoy repeating them 100x to everyone, often in the same thread. This is not normal behavior and is a symptom of a problem you need to get fixed. You've been told that 1000x before but have shown no sign of changing. Do you literally EVER see another guy on this forum repeatedly post a bullet-point list of his amazing qualities? And we have some pretty crazy people on this forum. What does that tell you?? Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but of all the things you've listed, really the first two are the only things a woman in the USA in 2019 is going to care much about. They don't need you to provide for them anymore. They are capable of providing for themselves.



You keep saying this over and over again as well. If women are not attracted to what YOU believe they SHOULD be attracted to then your response is to become ANGRY and BLAME them then call them b*tches. Again, multiple signs of a serious problem in you that you need to seek professional therapy to address. Women are fvcking EXPERTS at sniffing out specific negative behaviors and it seems to me they are sniffing you out very quickly through your interactions with them. My guess is they sniff a vibe from you that you are going to be the kind of guy who blows up their phone and then shows up in their front yard looking in their window or becomes violent when they dump you. The way you talk about how great you are and how women SHOULD want this or that and how they are b*tches when they don't follow your entitled opinion leads me to this conclusion, and likely leads women to the same conclusion. You think a woman who has that opinion of you is going to reject your 6'4" self to your face? Nawwwwwww mate.

You need to remove the word "should" from your vocabulary entirely. It doesn't fvcking matter ONE bit what YOU THINK they should want! And despite all the benefits you are touting on repeat, you also clearly have some negative behaviors that you are either trying to hide, or are simply unaware of that OVERRIDE your good qualities and that's all that matters.

I don't even know why I keep replying to your threads because I'm not saying anything new and the advice is never taken. You literally ignore the advice given and instead argue about how you are doing everything right and the problem is women.

Entitlement gets you nowhere but a downward spiral of anger and negativity. Learn to accept that you have an issue you need help with and seek the professional help that will make you happier in life.

You don’t see attractive guys going around bragging about how good looking they are. As a matter of fact they usually downplay/do the opposite.

 

[SoSuave666]

Is he ugly? If he has personality disorder, we can't help him.

I don’t think ugly is the right word. The pics he posted had kind of a feminine look about them. Kind of like duck face almost. I think he also rocks the bald look. Not sure if it’s because he has to or not.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Roosh says to do 10 of those in a week or 5 minimum in his book "Game"

 

[17 shots]

You told her you'd text her so that she has your number. You did, and now she has your number, mission accomplished... you're making a big deal out of nothing

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Earlier today when I was out I saw this young woman with huge boobs and decided to approach her. We ended up talking for a couple minutes, she seemed pretty friendly and open with me so before going about my day I decided to make a move. I point blank asked her if she had a boyfriend, she said no, so I then proceeded to ask for her phone number. I didn't have my phone on me, so she wrote it down on a piece of paper and handed it to me. She then tells me her name so we introduce ourselves and then I tell her I'll text her so she has my number and leave.

I text her about half and hour later, just "hey.....this is....".

I never received a reply by this evening so I just assume it's another loss. I took a break for a while and stuff like this just feels so frustrating and pointless, almost to the point where I don't even want to bother anymore. The issue that I have with this is it makes me feel like this is detrimental to my mental health. When I have experiences like this, where everything seems to go perfect but yet result in nothing, it leaves me questioning my sanity, like as if none of these experiences happened at all lol. I think a big issue here is that these experiences put me on a weird emotional roller coaster, where I get an elated high from what looks like a victory only to experience a massive blow as if those feelings were delusional. It really makes me feel like I shouldn't even bother.

Sang mate, I've been doing pickup for eons. Before julien got a 5 country ban lulz.

There's a model pua who argued he has a 10% success rate. Keep this in mind.

Despite the fact, years of game, I still strikr out. I don't care. Zero ****s given. What's the alternative? Neck beard? Escorts? Mgtow? Herbivore man? Toaster oven in bath tub?

Buy or tor 10 game by rsd julien.

GET BETTER NOT BITTER!


Find blueprint decoded. Check out the online shares. Get a mentor. Do coaching. Do a BC..

I'm not trying to be a **** but get a life. Most threads are bitching about hiw wackkk your game is.

A example of self sabotage is asking women if they have a bf. This is weakkkkk. Playboy doesn't ask nor care. He goes ass to mouth, finishes on her face and in her mouth + gets more girls. She is giving fake numbers or pitty numbers.

Get a man's blow out. Step the **** up. Be the lad that will bang her out in public. I really don't care. Compartmentalise the objective. If getting her is on, br unapologetic. No means no. Stop. I don't do LMR destroyers. I next her. Hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day. Act as such.

I simply don't care. I take my **** out and tell her what to do. Smash or next. Repeat!

Wa5ch Todd V. Do his BC. Check free tour. Step up or step aside.

The alternative is cuck. Its post wall, busted girl, skiing down cawk mountain and play house after milk goes bad.

This is coming for you unless you man up. Respect @ approaching. Its more than most phaggots today. I blame low testosterone


But its not good enough. Calibrate. Push/pull. Approach as you would if you already tapped that ass. As in, blow me or blow me out. There's no ambiguity.

I am thst lad who will take it out. I will tell her to take her clothes off.. Its sll about compliance. Be difficult. Aloof, nonchalant, and always go get more baeeeees.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Roosh says to do 10 of those in a week or 5 minimum in his book "Game"

His game sucks but I pay respect for the content and time put in. He's legit. A dude who is going through the fire unlike rollo or the red pill lulz.

He lacks charm, witt, humor, flash game but I will buy and support him. Game was good but nothing revolutionary. It pointed out that alteration in culture and how ****ty night life is with tinder or ig in contrast to when pickup was huge early mid 2000s.


Charm, charisma, enthusiasm, and or aliveness (todd v) is #money.


Fellas, adopt "i wont forgive myself for not approaching" & & & go get baeeeees. Just don't narrate said phaggotry. Just put fire under your ass to get up and go.

Cuck is the alternative abd single mother victimhood plus bulking season awaits.

No better period for bachelor era fellas.. #nextSet

 

[sangheilios]

Repeated narcissism, like a broken record. We have all heard 100x times all of your "amazing qualities." While it's good for you to acknowledge your accomplishments (to yourself), it is clearly not healthy when you enjoy repeating them 100x to everyone, often in the same thread. This is not normal behavior and is a symptom of a problem you need to get fixed. You've been told that 1000x before but have shown no sign of changing. Do you literally EVER see another guy on this forum repeatedly post a bullet-point list of his amazing qualities? And we have some pretty crazy people on this forum. What does that tell you?? Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but of all the things you've listed, really the first two are the only things a woman in the USA in 2019 is going to care much about. They don't need you to provide for them anymore. They are capable of providing for themselves.



You keep saying this over and over again as well. If women are not attracted to what YOU believe they SHOULD be attracted to then your response is to become ANGRY and BLAME them then call them b*tches. Again, multiple signs of a serious problem in you that you need to seek professional therapy to address. Women are fvcking EXPERTS at sniffing out specific negative behaviors and it seems to me they are sniffing you out very quickly through your interactions with them. My guess is they sniff a vibe from you that you are going to be the kind of guy who blows up their phone and then shows up in their front yard looking in their window or becomes violent when they dump you. The way you talk about how great you are and how women SHOULD want this or that and how they are b*tches when they don't follow your entitled opinion leads me to this conclusion, and likely leads women to the same conclusion. You think a woman who has that opinion of you is going to reject your 6'4" self to your face? Nawwwwwww mate.

You need to remove the word "should" from your vocabulary entirely. It doesn't fvcking matter ONE bit what YOU THINK they should want! And despite all the benefits you are touting on repeat, you also clearly have some negative behaviors that you are either trying to hide, or are simply unaware of that OVERRIDE your good qualities and that's all that matters.

I don't even know why I keep replying to your threads because I'm not saying anything new and the advice is never taken. You literally ignore the advice given and instead argue about how you are doing everything right and the problem is women.

Entitlement gets you nowhere but a downward spiral of anger and negativity. Learn to accept that you have an issue you need help with and seek the professional help that will make you happier in life.

I've gone to different therapists in the past and literally got nothing from it looking back on my time with them. The last one I was seeing up until about a year ago, she was a woman a little bit older than me. This was before I started posting on here but the reason why I stopped seeing her was that a lot of the things we had discussed and her opinions put me down the wrong path with different women I had been talking to at the time. There was a point where I felt she was making fun of me over some of these experiences so I stopped going.

I wouldn't actually show up to their house, look through the window, etc. lol. but I definitely do get VERY angry and have called women out before on their behavior.

For instance, a couple years ago I was going out with this 19 year old Mexican girl and came very close to getting into trouble. I tried to initiate sexually, we had already had one interaction and she refused and then made some comment, which resulted in a mini argument. She started mouthing off and I balled up my fist and came really close to beating the crap out of her, obviously I didn't but I felt a very strong urge to do so. She was texting me afterwards saying how she was really scared of me when I did that, we continued to talk for a bit after that but I never saw her in person after that.

The issue that I know that I do have is the fact that during my upbringing literally nothing was good enough, and this just seems to continue on into adulthood. For instance, when I was 15 my first job I was making over $10 an hour doing metal work, minimum wage at the time was about $6 per hour. I had a teacher, who for some reason didn't like me, always approach me in between class or pull me aside to talk to me and talk ****. One particular point she asked if I had a job, so I told her what I did, to which she replied "That doesn't count". The summer after that year I just started working more lol.

I could tell you multiple stories like that above from tons of different people.

This is why I'm pretty sure I'm addicted to achievements and what have you, whether that be in education, money/investments, working out, etc. Literally nothing I decide to do is ever "normal" and generally involves a very intense focus and passion into achieving my goals, whatever they may be. We've discussed this before, but I am at my happiest when I pursue these things but yet at my worst when I face repeated rejection with women. This is why I feel for me going my own way is probably the healthiest and safest choice, because I seem to feel really content and happy with life but yet when women are involved my mental health seems to be at risk.

 

[corrector]

This is why I feel for me going my own way is probably the healthiest and safest choice, because I seem to feel really content and happy with life but yet when women are involved my mental health seems to be at risk.

You are not going your own way though, it sounds like you are incel. People who go their own way are still dating women casually or are choosing not to get involved with women, but have the option to get involved if they want to, otherwise no choice is really involved in this decision. In your case, you are not choosing them to reject you and if you quit because of this, then it means you are burned out mentally but have not really gone your own way.

In these cases, what you normally do is take a break and try again later, otherwise you can never be a true MTGOW.

 

[candyman105]

This guy is funny as fvck. Not quite as hilarious as big goal, but pretty close. OP is definitely worth a quick read for a chuckle or two.

 

[malz1]

@MrWood

You realize you are disrespecting a guy under 30 who has this list of qualities

- 6'4"
- in fantastic shape
- college eduated
- applying for physical therapy school
- doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs
- house paid off
- 5 figure crypto portfolio
on and on and on

#perfect catch and if all that isn't enough for these *****s something is wrong.

There are men with better specs and women still don't give a ****. You could try being a betabux but you'd prob need to hit up the older crowd. This is just reality. You prob thought you were special with your physique but it obviously isn't enough. Perhaps enough for a woman to choose you over a less statured betabux candidate at your income lvl though.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

I've gone to different therapists in the past and literally got nothing from it looking back on my time with them.

Well good on you for seeing one. But they are like musicians: lots of them out there but very few excellent ones. You need to be seeing a male who you can be honest with. Go to Psychology Today.com and search their therapist directory. Find a guy with good reviews who looks like he could be the kind of guy who has or had luck with women in his life.

When you say you never got anything out of it, were you only focusing on your interactions with women, or were you talking about your anger issues as well?

Have you ever had a male friend observe your interactions with women and give you feedback? Things like your eye contact, body language, expressions, humor, ability to connect, ability to read her and respond in a calibrated way.... things like that?

I tried to initiate sexually, we had already had one interaction and she refused and then made some comment, which resulted in a mini argument. She started mouthing off and I balled up my fist and came really close to beating the crap out of her, obviously I didn't but I felt a very strong urge to do so. She was texting me afterwards saying how she was really scared of me when I did that, we continued to talk for a bit after that but I never saw her in person after that.

This is another example of how your mindset is manifesting in real life, the same way it does here. You have a lot of anger and frustration that you have a hard time controlling. Ability to master your emotions instead of letting them control you is one of the absolute most critical things for a man to learn. Even if you are able to sleep with a girl, you are never going to keep one around when you are emotional like this. Her argument was a test. Women administer these tests to see if you are safe or not. You demonstrated you aren't, hence she told you very clearly why she didn't see you again.

This is exactly the type of thing you should be talking to a therapist about. Same goes for your "unrelenting standards" characteristic (Google that term).

because I seem to feel really content and happy with life but yet when women are involved my mental health seems to be at risk.

It's not just women. You have chosen to take up interests and challenges that you are naturally skilled at, that play to your strengths. You seem like an engineer type, who is very logical, scientifically intelligent, but socially disadvantaged. So the most difficult challenges for you will always be the ones that rely on social skill. When you try that, it exposes your emotional weaknesses. To fix it, you have to lean INTO it, recognizing that this is where you must work to be complete and full. It won't be easy and it won't come naturally but that's exactly why you need to do it. A therapist will help. Group therapy would be a REALLY good option for you.... A good therapist can refer you to a men's group therapy near you, or you can search it on Google. You should also focus on anything and everything that gives you social experience like Toastmasters, dancing class, volunteering opportunities that require a lot of communication and collaboration. Whatever sounds the scariest and least comfortable for you should be what you seek out.

 

[Roober]

You always want to set yourself up for success and not work backwards from failure. I see a couple of glaring issues with your approach strategy...

1. do not ever ever ever ask if she has a boyfriend/SO. That's her problem not yours.

2. Do not ever say this is... You always want to assume she will remember exactly who you are. Plus if she asks who is this? Then you know that you did not really leave an impression.

3. Paper? If you don't have your phone you ask for hers and enter your number in there.I found this often opens up more conversation because her phone case or background picture maybe some apps she has on her phone etc etc.

4. 30 minutes? Really? Let's think about this for a second. You did not have your phone on you and you texted her 30 minutes later. Translation: as soon as you got your phone you desperately texted her

 

[Alvafe]

You always want to set yourself up for success and not work backwards from failure. I see a couple of glaring issues with your approach strategy...

1. do not ever ever ever ask if she has a boyfriend/SO. That's her problem not yours.

2. Do not ever say this is... You always want to assume she will remember exactly who you are. Plus if she asks who is this? Then you know that you did not really leave an impression.

3. Paper? If you don't have your phone you ask for hers and enter your number in there.I found this often opens up more conversation because her phone case or background picture maybe some apps she has on her phone etc etc.

4. 30 minutes? Really? Let's think about this for a second. You did not have your phone on you and you texted her 30 minutes later. Translation: as soon as you got your phone you desperately texted her

on your 2nd don't consider much both she could just play coy to see what you do, she know exactly who you was but is trying to downplay you


the op problem is already mentioned over and over, but the main issue I can notice is not only he is desperate, he is also not sure of himself and act as afraid of the interation.

he ask if she have a BF, he don't want trouble, he text ASAP, he don't have much going on in his life, so for her the op looks like a weakling who have no options so why then hell would she even care about you? his issues is on his mind not apearance, and that a shrink will not fix, he needs to fix his mind by himself because no one can do. also take note we don't know for sure if he did forward any info who was not necessary with would make him not look misterious

 

[nicksaiz65]

Sang mate, I've been doing pickup for eons. Before julien got a 5 country ban lulz.

There's a model pua who argued he has a 10% success rate. Keep this in mind.

Despite the fact, years of game, I still strikr out. I don't care. Zero ****s given. What's the alternative? Neck beard? Escorts? Mgtow? Herbivore man? Toaster oven in bath tub?

Buy or tor 10 game by rsd julien.

GET BETTER NOT BITTER!


Find blueprint decoded. Check out the online shares. Get a mentor. Do coaching. Do a BC..

I'm not trying to be a **** but get a life. Most threads are bitching about hiw wackkk your game is.

A example of self sabotage is asking women if they have a bf. This is weakkkkk. Playboy doesn't ask nor care. He goes ass to mouth, finishes on her face and in her mouth + gets more girls. She is giving fake numbers or pitty numbers.

Get a man's blow out. Step the **** up. Be the lad that will bang her out in public. I really don't care. Compartmentalise the objective. If getting her is on, br unapologetic. No means no. Stop. I don't do LMR destroyers. I next her. Hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day. Act as such.

I simply don't care. I take my **** out and tell her what to do. Smash or next. Repeat!

Wa5ch Todd V. Do his BC. Check free tour. Step up or step aside.

The alternative is cuck. Its post wall, busted girl, skiing down cawk mountain and play house after milk goes bad.

This is coming for you unless you man up. Respect @ approaching. Its more than most phaggots today. I blame low testosterone


But its not good enough. Calibrate. Push/pull. Approach as you would if you already tapped that ass. As in, blow me or blow me out. There's no ambiguity.

I am thst lad who will take it out. I will tell her to take her clothes off.. Its sll about compliance. Be difficult. Aloof, nonchalant, and always go get more baeeeees.

I think I finally understand 90% of how to play girlfriend game.

Asking if she has a boyfriend is just shooting yourself in the foot. Assume she's single until she tells you otherwise. How soon she brings him up tells you how likely she is to cheat.

You're c0ckblocking yourself if you ask if she has a boyfriend.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Lots of good info in this thread.