You can't win this game with women and sex because the rules are heavily stacked against you

[corrector]

Way too many questions, Ill answer 3, pick the three you want.

It's an open thread. I may pick 3, but someone else reading it may be interested in something else, etc.... When I'm writing, I also have other people in mind who may be looking to improve themselves and deal with their approach anxiety. My line of question just covers all the basis so there are no loose ends to any other reader that comes across this thread. If there is anything helpful you want to contribute in that regard I think it could be constructive to this discussion.

 

[user43770]

A strong, harmonious man would be happy to have the woman "elect" him as leader because she wants him and looks up to him, rather than beating her legally, economically and physically into compliance. That's what a weak, neurotic man does and feels the need to do. Tradcuckism is a weak, neurotic ideology.

Let me respond to your edits. Tradcucks are fake conservatives, first of all. Hence the cuck. They get elected on conservative principles, but then make no effort to uphold their end of the bargain. All they care about is being re-elected. Jeb Bush was a tradcuck. Look how Trump demolished him.

There are different leftisms. I'm a left-libertarian sympathizer for example, something so leftist that you've probably never heard of it before and never will because right-libertarians have captured the term "libertarian"*, but yet I am on this forum saying biological gender and thoughts & behaviors based on that is very real.

“One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, "our side," had captured a crucial word from the enemy... "Libertarians" ... had long been simply a polite word for anti-private property left-wing anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over" - Murray Rothbard in "The Betrayal of the American Right"

Libertarianism is a joke.

 

[AttackFormation]

Let me respond to your edits. Tradcucks are fake conservatives, first of all. Hence the cuck. They get elected on conservative principles, but then make no effort to uphold their end of the bargain. All they care about is being re-elected. Jeb Bush was a tradcuck. Look how Trump demolished him.



Libertarianism is a joke.

A tradcuck isn't someone who doesn't uphold their end of the bargain, that's just a swindler. A tradcuck is a pejorative for a tradcon. Although to be fair, when talking about abusive men, they are not "cucks" as they actually don't supplicate to women. An abusive man could be a tradcon, but not a tradcuck. So I should edit it to "tradcon", but whatever - you get the point that tradconism romanticizes a false reality.

Yes, right-libertarianism is a joke.

 

[user43770]

Nah, most men don't hit their wifes, but some men do. In the past, it was more acceptable for those men to do so and the consequences were far milder. It's not really about men vs women but harmonious people of both genders against alcoholics, misandrists and misogynists, cluster Bs and neurotics.

Fair enough, but judicially, women have that same power now.

In fact right here it was your own bias that led you to assume I thought "most men hit their wifes", instead of asking me if that was what I meant.

You lead off with that and implied that it was a given. What am I supposed to think?

A tradcuck isn't someone who doesn't uphold their end of the bargain, that's just a swindler. A tradcuck is a pejorative for a tradcon. Although to be fair, when talking about abusive men, they are not "cucks" as they actually don't supplicate to women. An abusive man could be a tradcon, but not a tradcuck. So I should edit it to "tradcon", but whatever - you get the point that tradconism romanticizes a false reality.

Yes, right-libertarianism is a joke.

All politicians are swindlers, grasshopper.

I stand by my definition of a tradcuck: a fake tradcon

I don't know what left-libertarianism is, but I bet it's a joke, too.

 

[AttackFormation]

Fair enough, but judicially, women have that same power now.



You lead off with that and implied that it was a given. What am I supposed to think?



All politicians are swindlers, grasshopper.

I stand by my definition of a tradcuck: a fake tradcon

I don't know what left-libertarianism is, but I bet it's a joke, too.

Ok honey.

Take me to bed.

 

[user43770]

Ok honey.

Take me to bed.

You're like 6 hours ahead of me. You must work nights. Or you're a maniac. My money is on the latter.

 

[Speculator E]

Unfortunately you are entitled and not really an honest actor then if you think you can just ask a random person on the internet 20 questions and think they're just going to sit there and spend their day responding to each little one lol.

I think he's just messing with you.
He already knows what you were going to write or think.

 

[corrector]

I think he's just messing with you.
He already knows what you were going to write or think.

Or maybe you are messing with us. You are saying that porn and masturbation is a great solution. You made this thread.
His answer is not of interest to you of all people?

 

[corrector]

Unfortunately you are entitled and not really an honest actor then if you think you can just ask a random person on the internet 20 questions and think they're just going to sit there and spend their day responding to each little one lol.

It sounds like you are defensive and hiding something. Maybe you are not as successful as you claim to be after all.

 

[Speculator E]

Or maybe you are messing with us. You are saying that porn and masturbation is a great solution. You made this thread.
His answer is not of interest to you of all people?

There's a lot of off topic message threads going on in this one thread. I don't particular remember what he said.
I type up this thread in about 1 min on an impulse. Wasn't really expecting this type of expectation.
I guess you can think of me of some kind of "Joker". Hehe. Get it?

 

[corrector]

This is like a homeless person asking a guy in a suit for his bank statements or something. This is the level of delusion you are in.

The level of delusion is someone believing that changing from a 4 to a 7 would mean anything on this dating market. You claim to be a 7 then you are a joke. Probably have to struggle really hard to get any girl and OLD doesn't even work for you after all that investment you put in. Now you are lashing out over advice. Wow. You are proving the black-pill showing you end up as a frustrated, miserable wreck of a person putting all sorts of time and investment just to become a nearcel or low-tier normie. You don't even sound chadlite to me, way to bitter for that. So we see the OP is right, the cost is not worth the reward at the end of the day. I wonder who is the really most frustrated and bitter in here?

 

[corrector]

There's a lot of off topic message threads going on in this one thread. I don't particular remember what he said.
I type up this thread in about 1 min on an impulse. Wasn't really expecting this type of expectation.
I guess you can think of me of some kind of "Joker". Hehe. Get it?

Thread is too political for you to get away with that. Have allot of triggered people on this site that are nuts.

 

[logicallefty]

Thread is too political for you to get away with that. Have allot of triggered people on this site that are nuts.

Political threads are technically against the rules of the forum. But if they get going and stay civil we will turn our heads the other way until the personal attacks start. And in political threads 98% of the time they do. I love talking politics more than many people on this site, but it generally just doesn't go well. The political climate in America is at a breaking point like never before.

 

[corrector]

You aren't wrong about how it's still difficult, but at the same time I'm a normal person and not a social outcast in a cult talking cult speak like you are lol.

So that makes you feel good about yourself to write like that? It's Saturday evening. You are on this board and posting on here. You really sound like you have a life.

 

[evan12]

If you've been around for long enough, maybe you might have noticed something off with the so call game.
Maybe you've heard about feminism. Or going red pill, or blue pill, or purple. Maybe you heard about the manosphere.
In the old days there were the term PUA and AFC. I'm not even sure they are being used anymore. There's a lot of BS going around.

But if there's only one thing I want everyone to know, if deep down you are thinking that the game is setup for you to fail you are absolutely right.
There is a matrix and the matrix is that the everything about modern game is heavily stacked against men. That means you.
And everything about modern is designed for women.

Just think about it for a moment.
You came to this site because you might have had your heart broken and that motivated you to educate yourself about women.
You study and became good and picking up women.
You got yourself a hot girlfriend.
If you're lucky she might stay and marry you.

But is that really winning?
Because once she marry you, she got you trapped and can decide to divorce rape you at any given moment.

I've decided the game is more trouble then it's worth.
Some would say to move to a different country. But the disease has spread worldwide.
Yes I mean that. It's time to wake up and realize what is going on in today's dating culture is a disease that is infecting civilization.
You can't fight this trend and more then you can stop the sun and moon from rising.

But what you need to do is to start thinking of alternative strategies.
I understand it's a fact that men have sex drives and needs.
But what I'm want you to know is that today's sexual culture have made sex toxic.

Sex has become a trap for men.
Be prepared to lose if you want to keep playing this game with the rules heavily stacked against you.
Because the only way to win is to not play this game at all.

OP what about having offspring ? you dont want ?

 

[corrector]

Are you really too ignorant to understand that this necessarily applies to you also, and therefore has no possible value as an insult or point made or anything except make you seen retarded?

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This is getting boring. Yawn. Why don't you go out with your girlfriend or something.

 

[glass half full]

Let's say that's true. How does that square with the idea many guys here promote, that you shouldn't date any girl over 25?

Because we can!
I had a great time last night with a 30 year old lady. No "first-date smash", but a couple of good kisses esp. the second one! -we had a great time...

But if she branches, so be it. I had fun, really think she did too. I think sometimes they want someone who is older and more sure of themselves, and I believe we are refreshed with a youthful optimistic lady who isn't bogged down from life. But I'm keepin' it real, too. In these times, there's no need to get too attached. Just appreciate the moment.

 

[zekko]

Because we can!
I had a great time last night with a 30 year old lady.

Just to be clear, I don't support the "Only date girls 25 or younger" idea, I was just pointing out that it exists. I understand the philosophy, and how older women can be jaded. But if you date a girl, she's not going to stay the same age forever, so the idea is kind of silly unless you pump and dump.

Besides, I'm close to 60, I'd be narrowing my options quite a bit if I insisted on women only 25 or younger. Probably be a little hypocritical too. Anyway, I find a lot of women older than that attractive. At my age, most girls under 45 look pretty young to me.

 

[Speculator E]

Just to be clear, I don't support the "Only date girls 25 or younger" idea, I was just pointing out that it exists. I understand the philosophy, and how older women can be jaded. But if you date a girl, she's not going to stay the same age forever, so the idea is kind of silly unless you pump and dump.

Besides, I'm close to 60, I'd be narrowing my options quite a bit if I insisted on women only 25 or younger. Probably be a little hypocritical too. Anyway, I find a lot of women older than that attractive. At my age, most girls under 45 look pretty young to me.

If they can take care of themselves well. They can stay sexy well into their 40's. Just look at some of the old supermodels like Christina Brinkley or Kate Ireland. Or that playboy model that Trump dated.
People in the Bible used to live up to 800 years.

A lot of girls under 25 are obese, so this idea doesn't make sense.

 

[lamath]

If they can take care of themselves well. They can stay sexy well into their 40's. Just look at some of the old supermodels like Christina Brinkley. Or that playboy model that Trump dated.
People in the Bible used to live up to 800 years.

Imo when older than 35 and still have looks its make up and photoshop/filters.