I really wish I never tried online dating you guys

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Every single BigDave thread. Yet everyone keeps responding with same answers in different ways. This is insanity.
It's kind of amazing because he kind of dangles a carrot in front of you making you think you can change his mind but then sharply changes the topic of discussion. Then after going on with the new topic for a bit he changes the topic back to the original discussion with a post that shows he learned absolutely nothing from the original replies.
 

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It's kind of amazing because he kind of dangles a carrot in front of you making you think you can change his mind but then sharply changes the topic of discussion. Then after going on with the new topic for a bit he changes the topic back to the original discussion with a post that shows he learned absolutely nothing from the original replies.
I don’t get why no one is seeing his pattern. Everyone wants to be the solution to his innumerable issues.
 

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It's kind of amazing because he kind of dangles a carrot in front of you making you think you can change his mind but then sharply changes the topic of discussion. Then after going on with the new topic for a bit he changes the topic back to the original discussion with a post that shows he learned absolutely nothing from the original replies.
That actually sounds like good screen-writing. In as three act movie you have a set-up,the middle and the ending separated by plot-points (i.e. in this case the change the topic of discussion). People who write good screen-plays that get selected by a director/producer and make allot of money. He has the talent and may be a great screen-writer to a horror movie one day.
 

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It's not all about looks on OLD.

I've been on POF for two months and have gotten ZERO action. My profile is succinct but clever (DM me if you want the link). If OLD is ALL about looks and body, I've attached a few of the pics I use. I get messages from women who are way old, wrinkled and out of shape. Of the maybe 50 people I've contacted over the past two months, here is the approximate breakdown:
-80% of my messages go UNREAD
-15% READ and Delete
-5% Do respond but then disappear after one or two exchanges

I am over 45 (look 35) and look for women 35-45 so I'm sure that's part of it. But, I think I'm fairly decent looking and still cannot get a decent response. This will be my last foray into OLD for all time with the exception of hookup sites I use on which I do pretty well. But it's cheap s*ex with much younger women, which is fine, but for higher-quality women in my dating range, OLD does not work for me either.

So IT's NOT all about looks on OLD, as you get older, women screen for AGE first.
 

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POF is garbage. Most sites are garbage. Match and Bumble work best for me. I meet a lot of attractive profession women through just those two. I never do both at the same time. 30 days on one and delete. 30 on the other and delete. Repeat.

A lot of women are turned off by gym and bathroom mirror selfies. I never use them. I’ve never needed to use more than a good headshot or two.

First pic is good but it is clearly a selfie with no eye contact. It is an unnatural and clearly staged pose. Door in the background also ruins it. I would retake this pic with a neutral background, eye contact and go black and white with it. More classic and natural look.

3rd pic is bland. You don’t need it.

The women who contact you are too thirsty and overlook these things. More attractive and intelligent women do not.
What about the age factor? No matter how you look women disqualify or negatively tax you harshly for your age number.
 

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no i don't find any men attractive. Stop the nonsense
I thought you said your friend that posts here is a 9+ 10. I thought you said you were attractive. You talk about male models, you were on a majority male bodybuilding site, you claim women only want the top 1% in men in looks yet say you don't find any men attractive.

You claim its women choosing the top 1% of men and none choose you yet you still dont listen to what YOU say women want.

You claim you know what you want yet find every excuse not to get it and finger point at everyone else playing victim.

You only seek attention. Nothing more.

Get on using your friends 9+ 10 pictures so you can see for yourself if your theory is 100% correct. You wont do it. Because its just about attention seeking for you and nothing else.
 

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It's not all about looks on OLD.

I've been on POF for two months and have gotten ZERO action. My profile is succinct but clever (DM me if you want the link). If OLD is ALL about looks and body, I've attached a few of the pics I use. I get messages from women who are way old, wrinkled and out of shape. Of the maybe 50 people I've contacted over the past two months, here is the approximate breakdown:
-80% of my messages go UNREAD
-15% READ and Delete
-5% Do respond but then disappear after one or two exchanges

I am over 45 (look 35) and look for women 35-45 so I'm sure that's part of it. But, I think I'm fairly decent looking and still cannot get a decent response. This will be my last foray into OLD for all time with the exception of hookup sites I use on which I do pretty well. But it's cheap s*ex with much younger women, which is fine, but for higher-quality women in my dating range, OLD does not work for me either.

So IT's NOT all about looks on OLD, as you get older, women screen for AGE first.
I'm not saying you are gonna be on the cover of vogue, but the reality is that you look far better than the vast majority of men around your age.
 

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I think it’s true to an extent. I have experienced the same thing. But there are enough exceptions out there too.
Imho for hookup phase only just lie about it. They tag me 5
I think it’s true to an extent. I have experienced the same thing. But there are enough exceptions out there too.
I think for just hookups use a lower age they tend to think you are. It makes no sense to get taxed for that if you have the goods.
 

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First pic is good but it is clearly a selfie with no eye contact. It is an unnatural and clearly staged pose. Door in the background also ruins it. I would retake this pic with a neutral background, eye contact and go black and white with it. More classic and natural look.

3rd pic is bland. You don’t need it.
Damnit @Amante Silvestre how the he11 did you just get inside my head like that?!?!

Me First pic: " reasonsaby attractive but hmmmm no real draw for me here"

Second pic: "gym selfie, uh oh, he's trying to attract hotties over substance. At least it's a better picture of his face"

Third picture: I LOLed. Silly pic, doesn't add any value to what I just saw. I get it, an action shot, but kinda worthless sum total.

@Dash Riprock you have some solid looks. Dunno what your profile says. Better pics would help BUT I'm off pof because, while my inbox was full, it was consistently lower quality than I was looking for.
 

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they're not getting nothing with my pics


Guru is admittedly a solid 9+/10
Amante is also a tall, good looking white male


You have to be in top 1-2% of men to get even average women who are in shape online. I would say I'm realistically in top 10-20% of men but that means nothing online
I wish you didn't hold this belief. Having this does not help you nor those beautiful single women who don't understand where all the good men gone.
 

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POF is garbage. Most sites are garbage. Match and Bumble work best for me. I meet a lot of attractive profession women through just those two. I never do both at the same time. 30 days on one and delete. 30 on the other and delete. Repeat.

A lot of women are turned off by gym and bathroom mirror selfies. I never use them. I’ve never needed to use more than a good headshot or two.

First pic is good but it is clearly a selfie with no eye contact. It is an unnatural and clearly staged pose. Door in the background also ruins it. I would retake this pic with a neutral background, eye contact and go black and white with it. More classic and natural look.

3rd pic is bland. You don’t need it.

The women who contact you are too thirsty and overlook these things. More attractive and intelligent women do not.
Good advice. I agree POF, or should be POS (piece of sh*it), blows.

Will work on the pics.

Ciao.
 

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It's not all about looks on OLD.

I've been on POF for two months and have gotten ZERO action. My profile is succinct but clever (DM me if you want the link). If OLD is ALL about looks and body, I've attached a few of the pics I use. I get messages from women who are way old, wrinkled and out of shape. Of the maybe 50 people I've contacted over the past two months, here is the approximate breakdown:
-80% of my messages go UNREAD
-15% READ and Delete
-5% Do respond but then disappear after one or two exchanges

I am over 45 (look 35) and look for women 35-45 so I'm sure that's part of it. But, I think I'm fairly decent looking and still cannot get a decent response. This will be my last foray into OLD for all time with the exception of hookup sites I use on which I do pretty well. But it's cheap s*ex with much younger women, which is fine, but for higher-quality women in my dating range, OLD does not work for me either.

So IT's NOT all about looks on OLD, as you get older, women screen for AGE first.
But age is part of looks. Its as much a part of looks as height. They are both numbers, and women look at numbers to write people off before giving them a chance because they get too many emails. When you say it's not all about looks, then you mean to say if you can write a good profile, or have a good messaging strategy that women would look beyond your age, height or picture and give you a shot.

It looks like people are either cleaning house in OLD or they are getting nowhere at all. No middle ground.
 

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Damnit @Amante Silvestre how the he11 did you just get inside my head like that?!?!

Me First pic: " reasonsaby attractive but hmmmm no real draw for me here"

Second pic: "gym selfie, uh oh, he's trying to attract hotties over substance. At least it's a better picture of his face"

Third picture: I LOLed. Silly pic, doesn't add any value to what I just saw. I get it, an action shot, but kinda worthless sum total.

@Dash Riprock you have some solid looks. Dunno what your profile says. Better pics would help BUT I'm off pof because, while my inbox was full, it was consistently lower quality than I was looking for.
Thanks for the input. Yeah, i just don't have a huge portfolio of pics.

Ironically, those pics and a few others I use work huge on hookup sites. Get quite a few compliments.

Maybe if I looked more "beta" for POF and Match? No muscles, no bod, or Photoshop a dad bod over me, maybe? F*uck, is that what it's come to? Lol
 

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Im not too good at judging a man pic but im pretty sure sure you dont have a problem picking up women.

and i agree Amante about gym pic.
 

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Thanks for the input. Yeah, i just don't have a huge portfolio of pics.

Ironically, those pics and a few others I use work huge on hookup sites. Get quite a few compliments.

Maybe if I looked more "beta" for POF and Match? No muscles, no bod, or Photoshop a dad bod over me, maybe? F*uck, is that what it's come to? Lol
Amante had some good input. You are good looking. Get a selfie that shows eye contact, even if it's the same angle, but you shift your eyes looking at the camera. Then lose the third pic and get an action shot.

Maybe even throw on some professional clothes and stage a shot where you are approaching another man and shaking his hand. That will convey 1) professional/good job/intelligence 2) alpha/dominant

Tho, I think you should get off pof and onto bumble
 

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Amante had some good input. You are good looking. Get a selfie that shows eye contact, even if it's the same angle, but you shift your eyes looking at the camera. Then lose the third pic and get an action shot.

Maybe even throw on some professional clothes and stage a shot where you are approaching another man and shaking his hand. That will convey 1) professional/good job/intelligence 2) alpha/dominant

Tho, I think you should get off pof and onto bumble
it's so crazy how complicated women are

the female version of that dude - 7/10 face in great shape has 3774474747747474 options

why do women make this stuff so difficult?
 

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Thanks for the input. Yeah, i just don't have a huge portfolio of pics.

Ironically, those pics and a few others I use work huge on hookup sites. Get quite a few compliments.

Maybe if I looked more "beta" for POF and Match? No muscles, no bod, or Photoshop a dad bod over me, maybe? F*uck, is that what it's come to? Lol
Honestly, I think guys that are fit and attractive make some women feel very insecure and they reject out of fear. This is why it is important to go for people that are around your league. Most women on OLD aren't even average lol. People date those who are roughly on par with them.
 

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Honestly, I think guys that are fit and attractive make some women feel very insecure and they reject out of fear. This is why it is important to go for people that are around your league. Most women on OLD aren't even average lol. People date those who are roughly on par with them.
that's a bunch of nonsense

women on dating sites just aren't impressed by guys in the 7/10 range due to very easy access of men around 8.5 to 10/10 range

you literally have to be top 1% of men to be considered decent for online dating
 

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Maybe even throw on some professional clothes and stage a shot where you are approaching another man and shaking his hand. That will convey 1) professional/good job/intelligence 2) alpha/dominant
Are you serious? How would you expect a guy with little experience with this to not make that not look extremely staged (and cringy)? I'd say that's a hard photo to nail.

The more natural, the more the woman trusts it's a real character in that photo, not a staged one. This topic is hard to make look natural.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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