I really wish I never tried online dating you guys

[sazc]

Honestly, I think guys that are fit and attractive make some women feel very insecure and they reject out of fear. This is why it is important to go for people that are around your league. Most women on OLD aren't even average lol. People date those who are roughly on par with them.

There is truth to this

 

[sazc]

that's a bunch of nonsense

women on dating sites just aren't impressed by guys in the 7/10 range due to very easy access of men around 8.5 to 10/10 range

you literally have to be top 1% of men to be considered decent for online dating

Did you take your dating profiles down yet?

 

[sazc]

Are you serious? How would you expect a guy with little experience with this to not make that not look extremely staged (and cringy)? I'd say that's a hard photo to nail.

The more natural, the more the woman trusts it's a real character in that photo, not a staged one. This topic is hard to make look natural.

I think it's worth a try. You never know what you can/cannot pull off unless you try.

if you take the shots and you feel like you don't look good or you feel like they are not representative of you, then don't post them. But you might be pleasantly surprised that you look good in them.

No boundaries. Push the envelope a little

 

[bigdave17]

There is truth to this

I'll create a profile with pictures of men like this

and get 20320830528502 responses from women around 4-6 (which are a mile below his league). How much money you want to bet?? I'll bet you 50 grand.


I would say women on dating sites are most ridiculous towards ethnic men. I'm easily in top 1-3% of Armenian men in the world and even that's nowhere near good enough. If you're Indian, middle eastern, asian, etc... you have to be in top 0.001% of men in your race to be good enough for average women on there.


no matter how much you work obsessively on your looks, 99% of men will never be in that league ^^^, myself included yet that's what women on dating sites nowadays expect.

 

[bigdave17]

Did you take your dating profiles down yet?

I'm still talking to this Spanish girl. I'm waiting for her to stop responding to me (should be very soon) and then I'll delete my accounts


Can you explain to me how this myth exists that women care less about looks than men? I am super curious. Men nowadays are totally cool with a 5 or 6 face as long as the body is decent. Women want a guy in shape with a 9/10 face. How is this possible that women care less about looks?? In 2019, women are much shallower and more superficial than men have EVER been

 

[sazc]

I'm still talking to this Spanish girl. I'm waiting for her to stop responding to me (should be very soon) and then I'll delete my accounts


Can you explain to me how this myth exists that women care less about looks than men? I am super curious. Men nowadays are totally cool with a 5 or 6 face as long as the body is decent. Women want a guy in shape with a 9/10 face. How is this possible that women care less about looks?? In 2019, women are much shallower and more superficial than men have EVER been

I think you need to work within your mindset, within your comfort zone, within your frame.

sometimes people find that there are moments where they feel like they can be bold and push the envelope. Sometimes people are resigned to accept the Fate that they feel has been put at their feet.

you have to decide which frame is more comfortable for yourself. You seem to be very uncomfortable with pushing the envelope, which is why you should pull back and remain in that safe zone.

 

[bigdave17]

I think you need to work within your mindset, within your comfort zone, within your frame.

sometimes people find that there are moments where they feel like they can be bold and push the envelope. Sometimes people are resigned to accept the Fate that they feel has been put at their feet.

you have to decide which frame is more comfortable for yourself. You seem to be very uncomfortable with pushing the envelope, which is why you should pull back and remain in that safe zone.

what???? that made zero sense

 

[longtail]

It's not all about looks on OLD.

I've been on POF for two months and have gotten ZERO action. My profile is succinct but clever (DM me if you want the link). If OLD is ALL about looks and body, I've attached a few of the pics I use. I get messages from women who are way old, wrinkled and out of shape. Of the maybe 50 people I've contacted over the past two months, here is the approximate breakdown:
-80% of my messages go UNREAD
-15% READ and Delete
-5% Do respond but then disappear after one or two exchanges

I am over 45 (look 35) and look for women 35-45 so I'm sure that's part of it. But, I think I'm fairly decent looking and still cannot get a decent response. This will be my last foray into OLD for all time with the exception of hookup sites I use on which I do pretty well. But it's cheap s*ex with much younger women, which is fine, but for higher-quality women in my dating range, OLD does not work for me either.

So IT's NOT all about looks on OLD, as you get older, women screen for AGE first.

My level of experience with online dating is very modest, but POF has a rep as one of the worst sites. It's pretty much unusable, with endless bots, fake profiles and a user-base that looks to be almost exclusively trailer park trash.

This hasn't been mentioned but if your results are modest I suspect at least part of the problem, perhaps a large part is the size of the dating pool. Are you in a small to mid-sized town? Amante is in NYC and the NYC dating scene is an anomaly. I lived in NYC for a few weeks and the women there are sexual predators (in a good way of course): the most sexually open and aggressive in any city I've ever lived in or visited. The women are almost as aggressive during the morning train rush and midday saturday as women are at last call saturday night anywhere else.

Try bumble and match like amante says, 30 days each and delete and repeat.

 

[sazc]

what???? that made zero sense

Your mindset and your frame is that you are not top 1%, you will never be top 1% and therefore you will fail on online dating and with cold approach.

what I was saying is it's very important that people work within their frame to get comfortable. So work within your frame to get comfortable about where you are and then maybe eventually you'll be able to exceed those self-imposed boundaries

 

[corrector]

what???? that made zero sense

I think she means to get a one-way ticket and go to Armenia because you could get a girl there and will be in frame.

 

[corrector]

I'll create a profile with pictures of men like this

and get 20320830528502 responses from women around 4-6 (which are a mile below his league). How much money you want to bet?? I'll bet you 50 grand.


I would say women on dating sites are most ridiculous towards ethnic men. I'm easily in top 1-3% of Armenian men in the world and even that's nowhere near good enough. If you're Indian, middle eastern, asian, etc... you have to be in top 0.001% of men in your race to be good enough for average women on there.


no matter how much you work obsessively on your looks, 99% of men will never be in that league ^^^, myself included yet that's what women on dating sites nowadays expect.

What a faggot. Dave's collection of men crushes.

 

[bigdave17]

I think she means to get a one-way ticket and go to Armenia because you could get a girl there and will be in frame.

I'm used to being rich bro. I can't go back to being a peasant

 

[bigdave17]

Your mindset and your frame is that you are not top 1%, you will never be top 1% and therefore you will fail on online dating and with cold approach.

what I was saying is it's very important that people work within their frame to get comfortable. So work within your frame to get comfortable about where you are and then maybe eventually you'll be able to exceed those self-imposed boundaries

there are 3 men in this thread alone who are easily top 10% of general public who get nothing on dating sites. The 6'4 jacked guy is probably top 5% of general public


It's not just me who thinks women on dating sites are completely ridiculous

 

[sazc]

there are 3 men in this thread alone who are easily top 10% of general public who get nothing on dating sites. The 6'4 jacked guy is probably top 5% of general public


It's not just me who thinks women on dating sites are completely ridiculous

And that's fine
You should get off all sites

 

[corrector]

I'm used to being rich bro. I can't go back to being a peasant

You don't sound rich too me or that your status being rich means anything if you can't get a proper girl to save your life. Think about it, the one thing you really want in life and you can't get it. That means any man who is even broke that has what you can't have is better off than you are. Listening to your threads/posts I'd rather be a broke Chad and have a rich sugar momma looking after me than be in your situation.

You sound better off in a third world country with the right girl than being rich and complaining and watching porn here. Go back to Armenia or stop complaining. I'm sure the cost of living is cheaper in Armenia and you should have savings from your job to last 20 years there.

 

[corrector]

And that's fine
You should get off all sites

He won't do that because it will hurt his identity and self-pity party and he won't have any cause to complain and attract more attention from here. When your identity actually feeds itself failing with women and you feel that life is unfair and you have a right to complain and cry then that's hard to break. That's why many sick people don't want to get well since they would lose the sympathy attention. Dave is not out for a solution, he's out for attention.

 

[bigdave17]

You don't sound rich too me or that your status being rich means anything if you can't get a proper girl to save your life. Think about it, the one thing you really want in life and you can't get it. That means any man who is even broke that has what you can't have is better off than you are. Listening to your threads/posts I'd rather be a broke Chad and have a rich sugar momma looking after me than be in your situation.

You sound better off in a third world country with the right girl than being rich and complaining and watching porn here. Go back to Armenia or stop complaining. I'm sure the cost of living is cheaper in Armenia and you should have savings from your job to last 20 years there.

I want to be rich for rest of my life, want to have kids here who are wealthy also. There is nothing in Armenia to go to man. It sucks there


Also I love American sports, food, music, culture,etc.... I don't know if I would enjoy living there

 

[bigdave17]

And that's fine
You should get off all sites

I already told you I will very soon

He won't do that because it will hurt his identity and self-pity party and he won't have any cause to complain and attract more attention from here. When your identity actually feeds itself failing with women and you feel that life is unfair and you have a right to complain and cry then that's hard to break. That's why many sick people don't want to get well since they would lose the sympathy attention. Dave is not out for a solution, he's out for attention.

so I spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get dates online for nothing just to get attention?

 

[corrector]

so I spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get dates online for nothing just to get attention?

I'm just talking about your pattern of threads here. If you were serious then you would have arrived at a solution by now. You have a perverse incentive to fail because it means that people will feel for you, feel sorry for you, and you get allot of sympathy. It almost seems formulaic one thread after another and then you post male models like you got them from a gay porn magazine. People will wonder if you have a few screws lose and feel crazy themselves taking you seriously.

You have everything you want in life except the having a girl but when it comes to a real sacrifice to get it, you are not willing to pay the price but think you are entitled to it. Nothing worth anything in life comes without a price. This one happens to be something other than your money.

 

[bigdave17]

I'm just talking about your pattern of threads here. If you were serious then you would have arrived at a solution by now. You have a perverse incentive to fail because it means that people will feel for you, feel sorry for you, and you get allot of sympathy. It almost seems formulaic one thread after another and then you post male models like you got them from a gay porn magazine. People will wonder if you have a few screws lose and feel crazy themselves taking you seriously.

You have everything you want in life except the having a girl but when it comes to a real sacrifice to get it, you are not willing to pay the price but think you are entitled to it. Nothing worth anything in life comes without a price. This one happens to be something other than your money.

I'm willing to put in hours and hours and hours and hours of work with online dating and I'm getting absolutely nothing


meanwhile some pretty boy chad can create a profile and get tons of dates with zero effort. I mean I understand that the truly beautiful people in life have an advantage but I'm in the 2nd tier class of beautiful people, it shouldn't be this huge spread between me and that 1st tier.