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Most people you do associate with are in your sphere because you meet a particular need of theirs. This status/wealth dynamic is just a more overt and superficial way of dealings. I’d rather it be this way with honest motivations (of why they are there) rather than the reverse “honest dealings” yet contrived/hidden motives.
Yeah, materialist hangers-on are usually quite easy to spot and that's a good thing at least. But I'd also argue that most of them have less to offer than those aren't basing their relationships off their wealth. They tend to be more toxic than the average people in your social sphere.

Maybe my other friends hang out with me because I validate their self-worth or because they like the attention I give them, but they also have personality traits or skills I admire too. Perhaps they are intellectual, or very loyal, or brave. These are all important intangible assets that make for good friendships.

These people can't scheme to take away my sense of humour or my personality, either.

Whereas some guy who just likes you for your money most likely values wealth and assets above all else, and that likely means he is selfish, shallow and greedy. He might aspire to do tangible damage to your wealth or assets for his own gain. Those are negative traits to have in your sphere, even if these people's motivations are clear.
 

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Yeah, materialist hangers-on are usually quite easy to spot and that's a good thing at least. But I'd also argue that most of them have less to offer than those aren't basing their relationships off their wealth. They tend to be more toxic than the average people in your social sphere.

Maybe my other friends hang out with me because I validate their self-worth or because they like the attention I give them, but they also have personality traits or skills I admire too. Perhaps they are intellectual, or very loyal, or brave. These are all important intangible assets that make for good friendships.

These people can't scheme to take away my sense of humour or my personality, either.

Whereas some guy who just likes you for your money most likely values wealth and assets above all else, and that likely means he is selfish, shallow and greedy. He might aspire to do tangible damage to your wealth or assets for his own gain. Those are negative traits to have in your sphere, even if these people's motivations are clear.
Implicit in your contention is that those “genuine” friendships are of good character and thus can be trusted—which, in it totality, can be more damaging than dealing with and being aware of people’s corporeal nature at its most superficial level.

A day might come when you are in need of a friend but because you are no longer meeting that friend’s “need” (whatever that need may be), you Will be left empty handed and feeling quite deceived.

The sooner you accept that most (97%+) people are not going to serve you in the manner you think they would as a friend, the sooner you will forge a stronger acceptance of reality and position in life.

Richard’s way of future dealings will be superficial, yes. But it’s upfront.
 

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I don't want to be the doom-and-gloom guy, but beware of false friends. The Lambo looks good, but these people that suddenly are far more attentive? It's not the personality that's doing it, it's the show of wealth.

People that only care about you when you have a Lambo are the same people that wouldn't give a f*ck about you if you didn't have it.

But enjoy it nonetheless.
This kind of area I agree with you. As such, I’ve always been protective of how much money I actually have, especially with a relatively poor (money wise) childhood. Doesn’t hurt that I made a fool of myself one time at 17, bragging about 10k from a student loan (so dumb). Now I have a very decent amount of savings, thanks to the military (I know you guys won’t care, 150k). Now I’m out, making min wage while studying at university :p

Still, I have some doubt that maybe I should be leveraging it in some way. Even if it seems vain or whatever... I remember I was on a trip and was asked how much I had saved (after making an comment about not really having a spending limit), but I avoided to say. Eventually I did spill my salary number, but still.

It seems like I could easily raise my value by being more belligerent about that factor, but at the same time, I’m in doubt about whether it’s a good idea. Maybe it’ll impress some girls, increase the attraction based on that. Maybe I should try and take advantage of that possible shift. I don’t know. Maybe I should avoid those that would be taken in by that info.

My general idea is to avoid being a target for those that may only seek your company for your money. And otherwise change yourself in that viewpoint. I rather be unassuming and present myself as just myself, people assessing on only who I am. But maybe it’s something I should reconsider, at least in part.

Definitely open to full opinions.
 

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Popularity gained through personality versus material goods is not comparable.
 
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Many of you should stop trying to superimpose your frame upon Richard's. This is Richard's will and journey. Accept him or ignore him. At the least, enjoy the fireworks.
Thank you.

As if I'm supposed to listen to people that work at McDonald's or something.
 

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This thread is a farce.

Many of you should stop trying to superimpose your frame upon Richard's. This is Richard's will and journey. Accept him or ignore him. At the least, enjoy the fireworks.
Accept or ignore? Think about what you're actually saying bro.

Richard post a pic of you with the Lambo, post pics of women in there. So far you're just a hype job.
 

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Wow now that's a cool car. How are people treating you now you have this?
It’s pretty awesome. It’s like having five bionic ****s at once. All the girls are breaking up with their husbands for me now. Especially those hot 90 year olds.
 

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Implicit in your contention is that those “genuine” friendships are of good character and thus can be trusted—which, in it totality, can be more damaging than dealing with and being aware of people’s corporeal nature at its most superficial level.

A day might come when you are in need of a friend but because you are no longer meeting that friend’s “need” (whatever that need may be), you Will be left empty handed and feeling quite deceived.

The sooner you accept that most (97%+) people are not going to serve you in the manner you think they would as a friend, the sooner you will forge a stronger acceptance of reality and position in life.

Richard’s way of future dealings will be superficial, yes. But it’s upfront.
I trust my instincts and I assess people's intent before I befriend them. I can act easy with anyone, but if I don't like someone they're not getting into my inner circle. I've been burned by maybe two "friends", but I've never lost material assets or even much time to the snakes-in-the-grass.

Example: if I go to a party, I will be cordial to everyone I talk to. But I'm making mental notes of who seems cool and genuine and who seems fake or unlikable. The end result is the people who get to be my friends are people that I judge as genuine over the course of several of these kinds of meetings.

Flashing riches not only attracts leeches and false friends, it also clouds your own ability to filter out the scumbags. If I walk into a party and tell everyone there that I'm rich, strangely enough they're all going to act like lovely people and have their guard up. So I won't pick up the negative traits I would otherwise be able to filter and there's a greater chance I'll attract people unworthy of my time at best, treacherous at worst.

If someone I consider a friend backstabs me (which, given the above, is unlikely) I've lost...nothing. I'll be a bit p*ssed off, but at the end of the day I've just lost the company of someone who isn't worth my time.

On the other hand, if I'm attracting people who are into me for money, there's a good chance they will steal wealth or try to defraud me - far more harmful than a relationship based around personalities.
 

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It’s pretty awesome. It’s like having five bionic ****s at once. All the girls are breaking up with their husbands for me now. Especially those hot 90 year olds.
That's great, you're on the start of a fantastic journey and don't let anyone tell you differently.

Guys, please respect us and our new found freedom and status. Everyone has their own path to take in life and it just so happens this is ours. Either accept or ignore it.
 

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How would you know?
I have one friend whose father owns a butchery chain, he provides steak to restaurant chains in the local area and is worth several million.

I have another friend who's a med student, his dad owns a hotel chain and has several £100M to his name. He gets through tons of gfs and "friends", because they are all sniffing around him for cash all the time.

By contrast I've never inquired about the guy's wealth and we've been friends for a while now - because I'm not a hanger-on, and I'm not obsessed with wealth.

You'll never know first hand.
You're very quick to put others down for no reason, aren't you? Or are you "defending yourself" from another imagined insult with this comment?

As I've said before, I am more than capable of doing what you do, Richard. But since I don't have a rich Dad, I'll have to earn my startup money myself - are you going to insult me for that too?

I've been trying not to antagonise you, but merely posting seems to be enough to trigger you at the moment.

That's great, you're on the start of a fantastic journey and don't let anyone tell you differently.

Guys, please respect us and our new found freedom and status. Everyone has their own path to take in life and it just so happens this is ours. Either accept or ignore it.
To be fair, I see no reason to believe Richard's story is fake. Taking a loan out and buying a Lambo is plausible, assuming you have enough property to put in as collateral...
 

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I trust my instincts and I assess people's intent before I befriend them. I can act easy with anyone, but if I don't like someone they're not getting into my inner circle. I've been burned by maybe two "friends", but I've never lost material assets or even much time to the snakes-in-the-grass.
You obfuscate wealth/status exhibition with one getting burned for material assets. The two terms are entirely disparate and not contingent upon one other in any form.
Example: if I go to a party, I will be cordial to everyone I talk to. But I'm making mental notes of who seems cool and genuine and who seems fake or unlikable. The end result is the people who get to be my friends are people that I judge as genuine over the course of several of these kinds of meetings.
You're watching too many Disney films. Your investment into "genuinity" is fool's gold. You've been warned.

Flashing riches not only attracts leeches and false friends, it also clouds your own ability to filter out the scumbags.
More straw. It could be said that not flashing riches can attract leeches and false friends and clouds your ability to filter out scumbags if you're not careful. Your argument has no logical basis.

If I walk into a party and tell everyone there that I'm rich, strangely enough they're all going to act like lovely people
If you walk into a party and tell everyone you are poor, they can act lovely around you based upon the energy you are projecting. More straw.
If someone I consider a friend backstabs me (which, given the above, is unlikely) I've lost...nothing. I'll be a bit p*ssed off, but at the end of the day I've just lost the company of someone who isn't worth my time.
Lost nothing, really? How about your two most valuable assets, time and attention.

On the other hand, if I'm attracting people who are into me for money, there's a good chance they will steal wealth or try to defraud me - far more harmful than a relationship based around personalities.
More straw, projecting realities that have no bearing on wealth or status exhibition.

Seems like you're out of your element here. Again.
 

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You obfuscate wealth/status exhibition with one getting burned for material assets. The two terms are entirely disparate and not contingent upon one other in any form.

You're watching too many Disney films. Your investment into "genuinity" is fool's gold. You've been warned.

More straw. It could be said that not flashing riches can attract leeches and false friends and clouds your ability to filter out scumbags if you're not careful. Your argument has no logical basis.


If you walk into a party and tell everyone you are poor, they are going to act lovely around you based upon the energy you are projecting. More straw.
Lost nothing, really? How about your two most valuable assets, time and attention.

More straw, projecting realities that have no bearing on wealth or status exhibition.

Seems like you're out of your element here. Again.
Due to his position he has even more pressing reasons to run a plates/rotation system where he doesn't let them waste time, doesn't give money and only sex is exchanged .
 
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I have one friend whose father owns a butchery chain, he provides steak to restaurant chains in the local area and is worth several million.

I have another friend who's a med student, his dad owns a hotel chain and has several £100M to his name. He gets through tons of gfs and "friends", because they are all sniffing around him for cash all the time.

By contrast I've never inquired about the guy's wealth and we've been friends for a while now - because I'm not a hanger-on, and I'm not obsessed with wealth.



You're very quick to put others down for no reason, aren't you? Or are you "defending yourself" from another imagined insult with this comment?

As I've said before, I am more than capable of doing what you do, Richard. But since I don't have a rich Dad, I'll have to earn my startup money myself - are you going to insult me for that too?

I've been trying not to antagonise you, but merely posting seems to be enough to trigger you at the moment.



To be fair, I see no reason to believe Richard's story is fake. Taking a loan out and buying a Lambo is plausible, assuming you have enough property to put in as collateral...
No, you are NOT capable of doing what I do.

You don't know the first thing about it. Don't delude yourself, little boy.
 
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