What have been some tangible benefits?It's a 12 step program for relationships. Both your relationship with yourself and your relationship with others. I've been going for 4 years. I'm asking if anyone else here has gone. I'm not advertising it.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
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Not blaming myself for things that were ex's faults and accepting responsibility of what was my fault.What have been some tangible benefits?
Interesting.Not blaming myself for things that were ex's faults and accepting responsibility of what was my fault.
You want some fvcking sad stories? Go to Online Gamers Anonymous and read some of the 5hit there. People (mostly guys) who are so fvcking addicted to online gaming that they abandon their families and neglect themselves, solely because they can't stop playing video games.I went to a couple Al-Anon meetings. I felt so awkward and out of place I stopped going after the 2nd meeting. It was mostly filled with older men/women that also cried while telling their story.
It's disgusting. I recall it was even in Fight Club. Shame.12 step cry baby program and once you're done you'll learn to cry more efficiently or get in touch with ur feminine self (wtf?).
If you really need to cry, then do it alone in some dark conner where no one can see you. Once that's all done, man the fvck up and be the fvcking mountain of strength that those close to you depends on.
Wow guys, way to make a new member feel welcome, by ridiculing him for wanting to improve his well-being in a way that works for him.It's disgusting. I recall it was even in Fight Club. Shame.
Truth sometimes hurts sweetie.Wow guys, way to make a new member feel welcome, by ridiculing him for wanting to improve his well-being in a way that works for him.
That's not alienating.
Not everyone wants to or should suck it up. If that works for you that's fine but it's kind of low to sh*t on someone else's strategy for self improvement just because you don't believe in it.
They r welcome to join the ladies club or one of those getting in touch with their feminine side club.Wow guys, way to make a new member feel welcome, by ridiculing him for wanting to improve his well-being in a way that works for him.
That's not alienating.
Not everyone wants to or should suck it up. If that works for you that's fine but it's kind of low to sh*t on someone else's strategy for self improvement just because you don't believe in it.
Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I'm coming from a different perspective as someone who works in mental health. I get that this site isn't the kind of site that fosters that kind of support but I guess the topic hits close to home for me.
I see what happens when men who reach out are shamed into suffering in silence and it's not pretty.
Men are less likely to seek help, even if they want to seek it, because of that ingrained attitude. This in turn means less funding for men's mental health (mens groups, men only support systems etc). There's a zillion women's only mental health programs and only a handful for men.
Suicide rates tend to be higher in men, addiction tends to be higher in men. Men are more likely to become socially isolated which is a significant risk factor for depression, addiction, and physical health decline especially in old age.
I'm not saying all men should reach out to get support. Some men prefer to deal with things on their own and nothing wrong with that do what works.
But not all men want to deal with things on their own.
My male colleague who is a former addict/ ex con started a men's only mental health group and is now starting a group for single dads.
This is the kind of stuff that helps bring men up, not beat them down and my colleague looks like an character from SOA lol but an incredible resilient guy who is trying to help other men.
I get that this isn't what would be helpful for you, but that's you, not a gender standard that should apply to all men.
Life isn't a John Wayne movie and men should be able to seek help in a way that works for them, that's all I'm saying
It’s mentality. Life hit me differently than it did most kids, and at a way earlier age. There were no drugs or alcohol to turn to. Feel the pain, and now you have to try everything humanly possible to try and make it stop. What the **** do I have to do? It only happened once everyone in my family got sick of me and my bull**** and just gave up on me and left me to do my own thing. I can’t possibly tell you where I can from, except that most kids who dealt with the same crap I had either started to kill themselves from ages 11-13, went on drugs and destroyed their lives after, or in today’s time become a school shooter type. I had no choice BUT to get stronger/tougher. That’s the key. That is the answer to your problems. Get stronger and tougher.They r welcome to join the ladies club or one of those getting in touch with their feminine side club.
No one's stopping them from crying their sensitive heart there and getting all the much needed support.
Here, it's strictly for men who can take tough love from their fellow men, if a 19yr old like @ImTheDoubleGreatest! can carry his weight here then I see no reason why others can't.
It didn’t work for me. I fully understand why men would want to seek out help, and I get why they would want to talk to someone. I was exactly like that. I still catch myself wanting to talk about things sometimes too. But you have to realize that people who’ve been through the absolute worst, so NOT talk about heir stories ever. You always learn about it second hand, from someone else who was close to them, and they always tell you how sad or messed up it was. But if you bring it up to the actual person themselves, they tell it to you without emotion. They just say what happened and that’s it. Read some books on the holocaust. You’ll find that the ones written by the kids or grandkids are super touchy-feely but the ones written by the holocaust survivors themselves are the exact opposite. Here’s one that talked about the crap that went on Sierra Leone in the 60s. It’s called A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier. No emotions, just facts.I'm coming from a different perspective as someone who works in mental health. I get that this site isn't the kind of site that fosters that kind of support but I guess the topic hits close to home for me.
I see what happens when men who reach out are shamed into suffering in silence and it's not pretty.
Men are less likely to seek help, even if they want to seek it, because of that ingrained attitude. This in turn means less funding for men's mental health (mens groups, men only support systems etc). There's a zillion women's only mental health programs and only a handful for men.
Suicide rates tend to be higher in men, addiction tends to be higher in men. Men are more likely to become socially isolated which is a significant risk factor for depression, addiction, and physical health decline especially in old age.
I'm not saying all men should reach out to get support. Some men prefer to deal with things on their own and nothing wrong with that do what works.
But not all men want to deal with things on their own.
My male colleague who is a former addict/ ex con started a men's only mental health group and is now starting a group for single dads.
This is the kind of stuff that helps bring men up, not beat them down and my colleague looks like an character from SOA lol but an incredible resilient guy who is trying to help other men.
I get that this isn't what would be helpful for you, but that's you, not a gender standard that should apply to all men.
Life isn't a John Wayne movie and men should be able to seek help in a way that works for them, that's all I'm saying
This is the typical mainstream narrative that people come to places like this to get away from: that men can be fixed, if only we took on more feminine characteristics and shunned our toxic masculinity. It's boring, trite, counterproductive, and defeats the entire object.
But seriously, how bloody arrogant do some of the women here have to be to think that they know better how to be a man in absolutely every facet of existence?
If people want nagging, they'll get married.