Help me get over my extreme negativity/defeatism with women

[guru1000]

Anytime I go out to bars/clubs or I go to the gym/mall and see a cute girl my age, I automatically assume that she will want absolutely nothing to do with me UNLESS she approaches me first or gives me unmistakable signs of interest that lets me know she wants me. After that point, I feel very comfortable and become my normal charismatic self


If I don't get overwhelming signs of interest (which only happens from 33-36+ women and ugly fat pigs), I can't get myself to approach attractive women at bars/gyms without an extremely negative and defeated mindset. I automatically feel like they will not want to go out with me because I'm not insanely, impossibly perfect. In my head, any attractive 26 year old girl only wants a guy who is impossibly unbelievably perfect

I thought that success in other areas of my life would fix this problem because I've had it since I was 16 and no matter what the hell I do, I can't get over my extreme anxiety/defeatism with women. I've obsessively improved my looks, fashion sense, body, social skills, income level and lifestyle to unbelievable levels and I still can't make myself feel like I deserve a cute and quality 25 year old girl because I don't feel like I'm impossibly perfect.


pic of how I look when I go out to bars/clubs

1) Get platform shoes or inserts; will add three inches to your height. You appear a bit bloated and watery, not dry and lean. Your hands are a dead give a way of the extra water weight. This makes you appear shorter by a few inches.

By getting lean and dry, you will appear taller.

Ways to get leaner:

a) Carb and water load Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed. Carp and water deplete Thur, Fri, Sat.
b) If you are taking test, reduce weekly T injections by 25%, and spread daily subcutaneously;
c) If you are taking T, ensure you are taking a good anti-aromatizer;
d) If you are taking GH, lower the dosage (this can cause water retention);
d) If you are taking creatine, cut it out altogether;
e) Cardio 5 days per week 30 min, 4-4.5 mph.

Well muscled physiques can be problematic if you are shooting for 8-10s, IF you don't keep super lean during the attraction phase.

2) Your sleeves appear super short. Roll them up two fold for a clean overlap;

3) Your facial demeanor is not inviting nor sexual. Cheer up and have fun;

4) Your shoulder to waist ratio is not ideal. Widen your shoulders and dependent on your body fat % slim your waist. Your ideal bf should be 8-10%. You definitely don't appear to be in this range unless you're retaining a lot of water;

5) You have potential for a strong 8 if you follow these tips, which will open you up to women of all attractiveness.

 

[derby1]

OP your not big enough you look like a gremlin, plus your shoes are w4nk plus your skirting board needs sanding down and painting

i smell a jackanory tell us a story

 

[bigdave17]

1) Get platform shoes or inserts; will add three inches to your height. You appear a bit bloated and watery, not dry and lean. Your hands are a dead give a way of the extra water weight. This makes you appear shorter by a few inches.

By getting lean and dry, you will appear taller.

Ways to get leaner:

a) Carb and water load Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed. Carp and water deplete Thur, Fri, Sat.
b) If you are taking test, reduce weekly T injections by 25%, and spread daily subcutaneously;
c) If you are taking T, ensure you are taking a good anti-aromatizer;
d) If you are taking GH, lower the dosage (this can cause water retention);
d) If you are taking creatine, cut it out altogether;
e) Cardio 5 days per week 30 min, 4-4.5 mph.

Well muscled physiques can be problematic if you are shooting for 8-10s, IF you don't keep super lean during the attraction phase.

2) Your sleeves appear super short. Roll them up two fold for a clean overlap;

3) Your facial demeanor is not inviting nor sexual. Cheer up and have fun;

4) Your shoulder to waist ratio is not ideal. Widen your shoulders and dependent on your body fat % slim your waist. Your ideal bf should be 8-10%. You definitely don't appear to be in this range unless you're retaining a lot of water;

5) You have potential for a strong 8 if you follow these tips, which will open you up to women of all attractiveness.

I'm about 10 lbs leaner now than that pic

my shoulder to waist ratio is excellent and my jawline is very masculine

 

[derby1]

my shoulder to waist ratio is excellent and my jawline is very masculine

OP some people can drive round in the rain with there roof down on there BMW M3 convertible ...and women still love them

your not one of those people

 

[guru1000]

I'm about 10 lbs leaner now than that pic

my shoulder to waist ratio is excellent and my jawline is very masculine

I’m not going to dance around and tell you you only need game. Which you do. However, also, your physique is not ideal for the women you seek, who are hot, quality women in their 20s.

You appear meathead-ish. You want to be appear model-isque; that is lean, vascular, and ripped. Your physique will repel some women, just as you have reported in the past.

Get lean. Then post pics showing us your progress.

 

[bigdave17]

I’m not going to dance around and tell you you only need game. Which you do. However, also, your physique is not ideal for the women you seek, who are hot, quality women in their 20s.

You appear meathead-ish. You want to be appear model-isque; that is lean, vascular, and ripped. Your physique will repel some women, just as you have reported in the past.

Get lean. Then post pics showing us your progress.

bro did you not read what I told you??

I lost 10 lbs from that pic, I do look model-ish now

also keep in mind I love meathead looking women with a good face - I love cute face, super thick muscular legs, super thick ass, etc... I basically like female version of me

 

[derby1]

also keep in mind I love meathead looking women with a good face - I love cute face, super thick muscular legs, super thick ass, etc... I basically like female version of me

you aint big you dck head, im big im 6'3 my forearms are bigger than your legs you goon....you look like a ****ing thunderbird puppet

 

[sazc]

I'm about 10 lbs leaner now than that pic

my shoulder to waist ratio is excellent and my jawline is very masculine

Why the fvck did you post an old pic here and then ask for advice?

Take a new picture right now and post it immediately so people here aren't WASTING THEIR TIME!

Sh1t!

 

[corrector]

1)

Ways to get leaner:

a) Carb and water load Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed. Carp and water deplete Thur, Fri, Sat.
b) If you are taking test, reduce weekly T injections by 25%, and spread daily subcutaneously;
c) If you are taking T, ensure you are taking a good anti-aromatizer;
d) If you are taking GH, lower the dosage (this can cause water retention);
d) If you are taking creatine, cut it out altogether;
e) Cardio 5 days per week 30 min, 4-4.5 mph.

Well muscled physiques can be problematic if you are shooting for 8-10s, IF you don't keep super lean during the attraction phase.

2) Your sleeves appear super short. Roll them up two fold for a clean overlap;

3) Your facial demeanor is not inviting nor sexual. Cheer up and have fun;

4) Your shoulder to waist ratio is not ideal. Widen your shoulders and dependent on your body fat % slim your waist. Your ideal bf should be 8-10%. You definitely don't appear to be in this range unless you're retaining a lot of water;

5) You have potential for a strong 8 if you follow these tips, which will open you up to women of all attractiveness.

Can you explain what a Carb and Water load means - and water deplete? (a) is a bit hard to read.

What about T -- is that Testosterone? Do you recommend Testosterone injections? What about freeing up Testosterone that's clumped up?

What is GH? What is all of this? This sounds crazy. English please.

This may be the only thing in this whole pathetic thread that makes sense and is giving solid practical advice and I don't understand what you are saying. Sounds like some hardcore gym lingo.

 

[corrector]

This troll is getting allot of airtime. Lots of other trolls see their threads locked, deleted or they are banned. He is shattering everyone's perception that LMS, or at least one of those areas will mean automatic success with women. It means all I have to do is approach and talk to any hot attractive and I'm automatically doing better than him who has invested so much of his life to be successful and still can't do that properly because he has a defeatist mind-set.

I would challenge this OP to an approach contest. Lets see who can approach the most amount of hot girls between this week and next week and gets a phone number the first. I'll even make up a thread with such a contest to shut this guy up if I keep seeing these pity-party threads. I thought I was pathetic in the lady's department, but when I see these threads day in and day out, now I'm getting motivation to approach women. Either give up or start approaching but stop these threads or face an approach challenge so we can see who has the biggest balls to approach women.

 

[Spaz]

why? I was fat in high school and developed a horrible attitude towards dating

Okay Bigdave17, I stand corrected and do accept my apologies.

I've been reading some of your threads and you now remind me of someone I know who has similarities as you, astonishing similarities and it does explains a lot of what u r going through.

Keep on posting and try following through what others here have contributed.

 

[bigdave17]

you aint big you dck head, im big im 6'3 my forearms are bigger than your legs you goon....you look like a ****ing thunderbird puppet

I didn't say I'm huge

I'm 5'10 195. I want a girl who is like 5'5 135 with fat ass and thick legs

 

[AJ84]

I don't think his physical appearance is the issue here.

It's how he feels and thinks inside that needs work.

I would be careful, falling into a rabbit hole of trying to look a certain way, don't we already have someone with a bionic penis who is also considering breaking his bones to get taller?

IMO, I don't think posting pics for feedback is going to help and will only make things worse for you Dave.

 

[derby1]

Either give up or start approaching but stop these threads or face an approach challenge so we can see who has the biggest balls to approach women.

im up for this with pic proof

 

[guru1000]

bro did you not read what I told you??

I lost 10 lbs from that pic, I do look model-ish now

also keep in mind I love meathead looking women with a good face - I love cute face, super thick muscular legs, super thick ass, etc... I basically like female version of me

I didn't say I'm huge

I'm 5'10 195. I want a girl who is like 5'5 135 with fat ass and thick legs

Weight is irrelevant insofar as you’re not too skinny or monstrous.

I stated lean. You’re bloated. You need to shed subcutaneous water stores.

The top-tier women you seek and how you appear are not congruent. As you are, you will have to approach many more women, which might be a good thing for you to forge mental fortitude. However, my original recommendation of your physicality stands. If you declare you are now miraculously lean (although you probably never knew how to get there), prove it with a pic.

 

[bigdave17]

Weight is irrelevant insofar as you’re not too skinny or monstrous.

I stated lean. You’re bloated. You need to shed subcutaneous water stores.

The top-tier women you seek and how you appear are not congruent. As you are, you will have to approach many more women, which might be a good thing for you to forge mental fortitude. However, my original recommendation of your physicality stands. If you declare you are now miraculously lean (although you probably never knew how to get there), prove it with a pic.

I'm prolly 15% bodyfat in that pic and 12% now... I look very healthy and lean

I'm not looking for supermodel - I'm looking for decent face with thick athletic legs and ass

 

[guru1000]

You’re nothing special pal. In NYC, you would be slightly above average looking. Truth.

This is important for to understand, else you will never do the leg work, as you think beautiful women should be approaching you.

Get lean and start closing women. They sure as hell, won’t be closing you (right now). As your gAme improves and reality sinks in, your options will open.

 

[bigdave17]

You’re nothing special pal. In NYC, you would be slightly above average looking. Truth.

This is important for to understand, else you will never do the leg work, as you think beautiful women should be approaching you.

Get lean and start closing women. They sure as hell, won’t be closing you (right now). As your gAme improves and reality sinks in, your options will open.

holy ****, why are you blatantly ignoring what I told you about getting down to 12% Bf?? I'm probably 8 lbs away from being in that perfect range but I'm still pretty lean. I have about a 30 inch waist. I'm still working on it though - 8 to 10 more lbs and I will be at a 28 inch waist.

Keep in mind your standards are much much more extreme in women than I am

I'm okay with a 6/10 face if the body is awesome (the thick Brazilian fitness model type). I'm guessing you're only open to true 9s and 10s. I'm not shooting for anything close to that

 

[bigdave17]

and if I would be considered merely above avg in NYC, I would be very happy with above avg women in NYC. I'm not shooting for a movie star

 

[guru1000]

holy ****, why are you blatantly ignoring what I told you about getting down to 12% Bf?? I'm probably 8 lbs away from being in that perfect range but I'm still pretty lean. I have about a 30 inch waist. I'm still working on it though - 8 to 10 more lbs and I will be at a 28 inch waist.

Keep in mind your standards are much much more extreme in women than I am

I'm okay with a 6/10 face if the body is awesome (the thick Brazilian fitness model type). I'm guessing you're only open to true 9s and 10s. I'm not shooting for anything close to that

Ya, I go for 9s and 10s only. That's Guru1000.

But that's not the difference between us. I get more hot women in NYC than anyone I know. Why? Because I got the goods and the gonads. I'm willing to get rejected ... repeatedly. A matter of fact, I embrace rejection. All the primadonna model type or powerful men I know avoid rejection from women, and hence get little or the scraps of my taking.

You have much work to do pal. Get stepping.