Top 10 Reasons Women Avoid Marriage

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Hold onto your nuts:
http://www.bolde.com/women-getting-married-less-less-reason-might-shock/

A lot of women feel like the market sucks and men are just not worth it. Sound familiar?

Reason #9
Men have lost what little VALUE they had. As Bolick writes, when there’s an imbalance in the gender ratio, the gender with the smaller amount automatically has a higher value, which makes that gender want to work even harder to make themselves a hot commodity. But here in the U.S. where that current ratio is 50.8 percent females and 49.2 percent males, that healthy balance in the population only exacerbates a man’s disinterest in making himself better. Therefore, women, not impressed with what’s out there, continue to excel on their own, turning even further from the idea of marriage.

Reason #10
Women have essentially become the men they wanted to marry. As Gloria Steinem so accurately put it, “We are becoming the men we wanted to marry,” and she’s right. We are no longer the “fairer” gender, but a badass gender that’s a perfect self-sustaining entity that can take care of itself on every level. There’s no need to marry when everything you need you can give yourself — and on a silver platter, to boot.
 

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The article should be renamed: "Women are being asked to get married less and less because men don't want to marry men".

Note the author points to the gender wage gap myth, (notice she doesn't mention the gender death on the job gap which is 99% men) while saying most men are deadbeats and most women are hard working. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE WELFARE NUMBERS SUGGEST.

Reason #10 - Women have essentially become men alright. They want the youngest, prettiest thing they can find, and will do dirty jobs on the side if needed.
 

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Wait - there is more: "Men are falling behind. Men, especially white men, had nothing to fight for and because of this, they fell behind and were surpassed by women in many ways. This trend is likely to continue, making marriage even less likely in the decades that follow."
 

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We should be glad for this news.

Like the article says, the hookup culture is alive. That's to our benefit.

If women don't want to get married, that means that you're less likely to lose half your assets.
 

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Interesting article...

Great (as in a lot) of cultural and societal changes happening....
 

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The article should be renamed: "Women are being asked to get married less and less because men don't want to marry men".

Note the author points to the gender wage gap myth, (notice she doesn't mention the gender death on the job gap which is 99% men) while saying most men are deadbeats and most women are hard working. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE WELFARE NUMBERS SUGGEST.

Reason #10 - Women have essentially become men alright. They want the youngest, prettiest thing they can find, and will do dirty jobs on the side if needed.
This kind of stuff makes me laugh because its usually written by younger women (20's, 30's) who haven't hit the wall yet and live a life of artificial "hot female" privilege supported by systemic and culture sexism towards men.

But this is the crap that goes through the minds of today's women. Ice cold. Men are not even human beings to them unless they bring VALUE that a woman cannot provide for herself or get from the state/law. These are the same women who complain about objectification and being treated like a jizz dumpster.

I laugh when any guy tells me a hot woman I'm f*cking is only into me because of MONEY or looks or whatever other shallow sh*t. Better than a woman who is only into you because you put up with her sh*t. Those are the guys with a "curfew" put in place by their GF or wife like they are 12 years old. Better than being single I guess (not really though).
 

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We should be glad for this news.

Like the article says, the hookup culture is alive. That's to our benefit.

If women don't want to get married, that means that you're less likely to lose half your assets.
This. We should be glad. More and more women don't want to get married and only want to be pumps and dumps so that's to our benefits.
 

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This. We should be glad. More and more women don't want to get married and only want to be pumps and dumps so that's to our benefits.
Yes and no.

Women who don't want marriage will behave more like men when it comes to dating and sex. Meaning they will only seek out the sexist and best looking person for a hook-up. They won't be jumping in bed with regular guys. With commitment out of the picture, good looking girls can just wh0re around with the top 10% of men and use the rest as orbiters.

You wonder why I tell guys to make MONEY?
 

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Plenty of men still want the traditional nuclear family. There are men here who would like to find that situation. It is tougher though to find an attractive traditionally minded woman, no question about it. But if you are in the right social environment there are plenty of traditional women around.

I find the article to be pretty accurate. There will always be gold diggers, always be some women wanting to "marry up", but I see here (and also hear from men IRL) that beauty alone is only worth so much. After a while you need a person you can have an engaging conversation with, someone who is nice to be around.

Over time the choice to marry will be more a lifestyle choice. It is advisable I think in cases where the woman drops out of the workforce to raise a couple's children. Marriage is alive & well in upper eschelon social circles and probably always will be.

It is already becoming a status thing again for a man to be in a position to support a non working wife & children, especially younger men. This is a shift from the women's lib all women should be able to work message of the 1970s and 1980s. Well perhaps not a shift but there is a segment of women emerging who do embrace traditional roles. For traditionally minded men the question is where to find these women. The article doesn't mention that.

I've said many times I am unlikely to remarry for the same reason cited by many men here...that being I have assets and those assets create income that is expected to pay for college & finish raising 3 kids. Once that is handled those assets are going to take care of my ex husband & I as we age. No way am I going to risk the financial welfare of 5 people by getting married. If I do ever remarry the prenup will be designed to protect those assets and the income stream they create from anyone outside me, my ex, and my kids. And I would grant a prospective spouse such an agreement to guard well his assets and income.

But really I don't see much point in marriage for myself right now. And granted I'm fortunate that I still have the luxury of plenty of choice at my age. LTR if the right man is in the picture? Sure.
 

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wh0re around with the top 10% of men and use the rest as orbiters.
The natural state of any species which has a male gender. And an ever-continuous state, because even if undesirable males have less or no reproductive success, undesirable females do steadily reproduce - passing on their genes to create more undesirable males who will live lives of being weeded out. Nature has no morality and like I've said before, we belong to the gender which in nature is far more dramatically sorted into winners and losers than females are.

I think in the future, as a "solution" to this, people may look near-identical in an attempt to make everyone a winner. Genetic engineering will mean everyone has the same optimum height, build, face structure, coloration, etc. for attractiveness and individuals will only be physically possible to tell apart by scanned tokens or deliberate physical details.
 
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I see absolutely ZERO advantage to getting/being married.

Considering >60% of all marriages end in divorce with 80% being initiated by the woman and men being far more likely to have to pay $1000's each month in maintenance/alimony for years and years on top of child support for kids and maybe losing the house and possessions he's worked hard for years to acquire, other than fear of being alone, being a super-beta, getting a tax break, and maybe some help with domestic chores, someone remind me again as to why people want to get married???
 

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The natural state of any species which has a male gender. And an ever-continuous state, because even if undesirable males have less or no reproductive success, undesirable females do steadily reproduce - passing on their genes to create more undesirable males who will live lives of being weeded out. Nature has no morality and like I've said before, we belong to the gender which in nature is far more dramatically sorted into winners and losers than females are.

I think in the future, as a "solution" to this, people may look near-identical. Genetic engineering will mean everyone will have the same optimum height, build, face structure, coloration, etc. and individuals will only be physically possible to tell apart by scanned tokens or deliberate physical details.
Its an interesting topic.

When deciding who to reproduce with, women like to choose either good leaders or good worker bees. Those are the men needed to keep society going. So any guy who is at least ambitious, somewhat successful and self-sufficient will be able to reproduce if he wants to.

Guys who have the hardest time are those without resources, ambition or success. Its a sign of low genetic quality. Women don't believe society needs more of these types, so they try not to reproduce with those guys. I've met some hideous and FAT women who are childless. You would think its because no one would f*ck them, but that's not the case. Most of them have had boyfriends and even marriage propositions. However, they decided not to reproduce with those guys because the guys were LOSERS. Some woman would rather not reproduce at all, than mother the children of a man with low genetic quality.

It gets even worse. Just last week I was at the mall and this random guy (just normal looking) was asking people for spare change. He had asked me earlier but I saw him again on my way out. The second time I saw him he tried to talk to a FAT ugly woman to ask her for change. Right after he said "Hey can I ask you something?" she immediately said: "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" and waddled off.
 

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I went to the clubs last night and it was nothing but white knights and entitled women. The bouncer tried to fight me because I number closed 5 girls (and I deleted their numbers). Times are changing gents. It's a bizzaro world we live in these days.

Nothing but desperate sorry ass guys and queen bees.
 

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Plenty of men still want the traditional nuclear family. There are men here who would like to find that situation.
Lot of people WANT a lot of things, but unless they are willing to do what it takes to GET them, they won't. If they think it's a matter of "finding" then they'd better get in line. Most people think that the process of "getting something" is the same as "finding something."

Like I can't "find" a job, but I refuse to admit that with my current skills there ARE no jobs.

The truth is very much like that one Seinfield episode, where they talked about how the VAST MAJORITY of people are simply "undatable."

Most people have very little to offer another person, yet they think simply by wanting, they should find.

That sh!t only works with Jesus.

Most women are not worth dating.

Most men are not worth dating.

But both of those are only visible from the other side, and very easily fall into the "it's not my fault my life sucks" thinking that we dumb humans love so much.
 

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Lot of people WANT a lot of things, but unless they are willing to do what it takes to GET them, they won't. If they think it's a matter of "finding" then they'd better get in line. Most people think that the process of "getting something" is the same as "finding something."

Like I can't "find" a job, but I refuse to admit that with my current skills there ARE no jobs.

The truth is very much like that one Seinfield episode, where they talked about how the VAST MAJORITY of people are simply "undatable."

Most people have very little to offer another person, yet they think simply by wanting, they should find.

That sh!t only works with Jesus.

Most women are not worth dating.

Most men are not worth dating.

But both of those are only visible from the other side, and very easily fall into the "it's not my fault my life sucks" thinking that we dumb humans love so much.
Worth dating? Undatable?

Behold:
http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/21/photos/828000/620x/LEXI-WEIGHT-LOSS-623472.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/06/1412616483274_wps_8_Angel_Eye_BBC_documentary.jpg
 

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Lot of people WANT a lot of things, but unless they are willing to do what it takes to GET them, they won't. If they think it's a matter of "finding" then they'd better get in line. Most people think that the process of "getting something" is the same as "finding something."

Like I can't "find" a job, but I refuse to admit that with my current skills there ARE no jobs.

The truth is very much like that one Seinfield episode, where they talked about how the VAST MAJORITY of people are simply "undatable."

Most people have very little to offer another person, yet they think simply by wanting, they should find.

That sh!t only works with Jesus.

Most women are not worth dating.

Most men are not worth dating.

But both of those are only visible from the other side, and very easily fall into the "it's not my fault my life sucks" thinking that we dumb humans love so much.
Agree100%. To few people are out there BECOMING someone with something to offer.
 

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I went to the clubs last night and it was nothing but white knights and entitled women. The bouncer tried to fight me because I number closed 5 girls (and I deleted their numbers). Times are changing gents. It's a bizzaro world we live in these days.

Nothing but desperate sorry ass guys and queen bees.
My GF and I went out to a club last night and the bartender asked us if we wanted to run a tab,my girlfriend handed him her credit card and we racked up a 150 dollar bar tab...the bartender looked at me like what the hell....lool
 

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'The age of chivalry is dead. That of sophists, economists and calculators has taken over.'
 

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Plenty of men still want the traditional nuclear family. There are men here who would like to find that situation. It is tougher though to find an attractive traditionally minded woman, no question about it. But if you are in the right social environment there are plenty of traditional women around.

I find the article to be pretty accurate. There will always be gold diggers, always be some women wanting to "marry up", but I see here (and also hear from men IRL) that beauty alone is only worth so much. After a while you need a person you can have an engaging conversation with, someone who is nice to be around.

Over time the choice to marry will be more a lifestyle choice. It is advisable I think in cases where the woman drops out of the workforce to raise a couple's children. Marriage is alive & well in upper eschelon social circles and probably always will be.

It is already becoming a status thing again for a man to be in a position to support a non working wife & children, especially younger men. This is a shift from the women's lib all women should be able to work message of the 1970s and 1980s. Well perhaps not a shift but there is a segment of women emerging who do embrace traditional roles. For traditionally minded men the question is where to find these women. The article doesn't mention that.

I've said many times I am unlikely to remarry for the same reason cited by many men here...that being I have assets and those assets create income that is expected to pay for college & finish raising 3 kids. Once that is handled those assets are going to take care of my ex husband & I as we age. No way am I going to risk the financial welfare of 5 people by getting married. If I do ever remarry the prenup will be designed to protect those assets and the income stream they create from anyone outside me, my ex, and my kids. And I would grant a prospective spouse such an agreement to guard well his assets and income.

But really I don't see much point in marriage for myself right now. And granted I'm fortunate that I still have the luxury of plenty of choice at my age. LTR if the right man is in the picture? Sure.
I would do anything to find a legit genuine good woman.
It is a near impossibility to find one.

There are many more good men out there then women.
My best friends and small circle are all good guys with good jobs, never did drugs and socially drink, are family oriented. Just good genuine guys from good families.
However it took all of them to mid 30s to find a woman to marry, I'm the exception not married.

Guys are looking for a good woman to build a family, yet women are looking for attention , to be taken to dinner for 4 years and give nothing in return.
It's a shiiiit trade off
 

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in italics...
I find the article to be pretty accurate.
Which of the 10 points are accurate? The article is 100%, SJW BS straight from a Hillary voter.

It is advisable I think in cases where the woman drops out of the workforce to raise a couple's children.
"Drops out of the workforce"? What a touching way to describe the illegal aliens who stream across the border and go on welfare. How old were you when you had your first child? How much were you earning? Did Boeing recover and manage to still produce planes for the Gulf War?

Marriage is alive & well in upper eschelon social circles and probably always will be.
You mean the richest 1%? Don't you and I qualify? How did that work out for Brad and Angelina?

It is already becoming a status thing again for a man to be in a position to support a non working wife & children, especially younger men.
Becoming? It was a status thing for the previous 10,000 generations, until about ours. We can agree the man should have enough money to do that. The question is, is his non working wife someone who will even appreciate him for it for a moment? Could she brag to her friends about it?

I've said many times I am unlikely to remarry for the same reason cited by many men here...raising 3 kids.
That and the fact that good looking men don't tend to want a woman over 40 with 3 kids, regardless of her income.
 
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