Top 10 Reasons Women Avoid Marriage

[Urbanyst]

Imo much or most of popular red pill content is just as poisonous for young men if not more so, as the blue pill stuff it claims to defend against. Heartiste is a good example of that.

You think so?

What are some examples of damaging Red Pill ideas you believe to be way off base?

 

[bigneil]

I still scored in the 15-20 range (it's a fuzzy test), but I agree it's not great. I didn't look at the female test, but fertility matters.

 

[AttackFormation]

You think so?

What are some examples of damaging Red Pill ideas you believe to be way off base?

It's not so much the ideas themselves as it is both their presentation by the author, and whether you are able to absorb the information in a way that is constructive to your life. Rollo's blog is an example of a good source (though it was a long time ago since I read any source now) because he's not petty or negative in his writing. But even if he's not, a hurt or lost guy is likely to read it and find excuses for why he doesn't need to change and to justify his self-pity because that's his own emotional state. So it's both the conveying of information and the reader's own emotional state that matters. I just think it's altogether better to focus on what you can do with your life and the happiness you can create yourself, instead of reading about women.

 

[Urbanyst]

It's not so much the ideas themselves as it is both their presentation by the author, and whether you are able to absorb the information in a way that is constructive to your life. Rollo's blog is an example of a good source (though it was a long time ago since I read any source now) because he's not petty or negative in his writing. But even if he's not, a hurt or lost guy is likely to read it and find excuses for why he doesn't need to change and to justify his self-pity because that's his own emotional state. So it's both the conveying of information and the reader's own emotional state that matters. I just think it's altogether better to focus on what you can do with your life and the happiness you can create yourself, instead of reading about women.

The current culture sets up somewhat of a lose-lose situation for most men. Here is a list of choices every man has and how society will react/judge his choice:

*Man chooses to stay single = Society questions his sexuality.. might be a homo
*Man chooses to play the field/spin plates = He is a pig, dog or some other animal with four legs
*Man chooses to date only young hot women = He deals with constant competition from other men and female branch swinging/rejection
*Man settles for low quality woman (most common woman around) = Man is miserable and deals with bad sex and sh*t tests regularly
*Man gets married = No sex life. Sh*t tests. Little power or choice in his relationship. High risk of financial suicide.
*Man goes MGTOW = He is a failure who hates women

Every choice is a sh*t sandwich only with different toppings. And as much as I give no f*cks what people think about my dating life.. I DO care about my MONEY and career. Climbing the ladder requires a certain level of social status which means you have to keep up appearances on some level.

In some ways, men are FORCED to engage women even when its not good for their emotional, financial or mental health. How do those red pills taste?

 

[Who Dares Win]

The current culture sets up somewhat of a lose-lose situation for most men. Here is a list of choices every man has and how society will react/judge his choice:

*Man chooses to stay single = Society questions his sexuality.. might be a homo
*Man chooses to play the field/spin plates = He is a pig, dog or some other animal with four legs
*Man chooses to date only young hot women = He deals with constant competition from other men and female branch swinging/rejection
*Man settles for low quality woman (most common woman around) = Man is miserable and deals with bad sex and sh*t tests regularly
*Man gets married = No sex life. Sh*t tests. Little power or choice in his relationship. High risk of financial suicide.
*Man goes MGTOW = He is a failure who hates women

Every choice is a sh*t sandwich only with different toppings. And as much as I give no f*cks what people think about my dating life.. I DO care about my MONEY and career. Climbing the ladder requires a certain level of social status which means you have to keep up appearances on some level.

In some ways, men are FORCED to engage women even when its not good for their emotional, financial or mental health. How do those red pills taste?

I have the same problem, work dinners where all the people I need to associate with start to flirt and seek women in the area...and I have to pretend I share such desire with them.

Same thing with the dating and meeting women, I would really just do the job done, get the reward and be productive with no hassle.

Apparently if you dont date, are married or anything connected with women you lose points even in fields with no connection to it.

 

[zekko]

I still scored in the 15-20 range (it's a fuzzy test), but I agree it's not great. I didn't look at the female test, but fertility matters.

Well, you certainly scored better than I did. I know the "right" answers to the test, but some of those I simply cannot answer right because they are such cliched PUA behaviors. Like "No, but you can buy me a drink". It's not a bad response, it's just so corny and it's in like every pickup book ever written. You might as well tell a girl "Now I'm going to neg you". And who the heck crosses a room to talk someone and then turns their back to them and talks to them over their shoulder? It's just asinine.

If you read some of the comments, a lot of the readers rip that test. One problem is that it looks hopelessly dated.

Rollo's blog is an example of a good source (though it was a long time ago since I read any source now) because he's not petty or negative in his writing.

I believe your observation is correct. Interesting that you point that out though, because Rollo was a big supporter of Heartiste.

 

[John Constantine]

Emotional investment is the answer to your question.

Women want to feel like there is some level of emotional investment coming from the man. Otherwise she will feel like a slut. If you can fake giving a sh*t about a woman, you can get pretty far sexually with them.

Most women are actually pretty stupid. It comes from their over inflated egos and believing everything they see or hear on TV lol. I do 10 times better with women I don't care about over women I actually like. Which is pretty annoying. When I like them its hard to play the game right.

This is the absolute truth

 

[devilkingx2]

I know you're trying to go easy on her, but let's face it: BeExcellent is delusional if she thinks a 48 year old woman with 3 kids is an 8 on a global scale (note that she did NOT rate my 20 year old girlfriend an 8, she stated that she knows college cheerleaders who are WAY, WAY hotter that my girls). So, unless I'm mistaken, BeExcellent is telling SS that SHE is hotter TODAY than my 20 year old girlfriend was. And hence, she claims to be dating much better men than me. And of course, she was even hotter when she was younger. Hotter than the hottest girl I ever dated. Ok.

I'd like to put an old photo of BeExcellent on PhotoFeeler. We can rate her based on her hottest day.

I'd argue that @BeExcellent could easily be an 8/10 if she's as rich as she says/implies she is.

jennifer aniston is pretty bangable even if she isn't as hot as she was on friends, if BeExcellent is loaded enough to afford personal trainers, plastic surgery and expensive makeup, why is it hard to believe that she could be rather good looking?

 

[bigneil]

I'd argue that @BeExcellent could easily be an 8/10 if she's as rich as she says/implies she is.

A woman doesn't get hotter for having money.

Haven't you argued that men don't get hotter for having money?

 

[devilkingx2]

A woman doesn't get hotter for having money.

loaded enough to afford personal trainers, plastic surgery and expensive makeup

bigger tits, a prettier face, weighing less and being more in shape, are all things money can technically buy.

Haven't you argued that men don't get hotter for having money?

there's a million ways to get girls, being rich is distinct from your physical attractiveness but being rich literally improves every aspect of life so you could just use your money to make yourself better looking

 

[devilkingx2]

No way in hell you're an 8 lol.

So you're telling us you seek out high VALUE men for the sole purpose of bullsh*tting around and "hanging out"?

That's just French for attention/validation seeking. Nice try. Kissing several different men a month. Do you have herpes yet?

If sex isn't what you're after, nore a relationship.. why not just hang out with other women?

she has a huge ego, many of her posts are more or less the same as when bigneil or da dynamically talk about how great they are

my theory is that she either is a seinfeld character and has crazy standards for the men she dates, or she's got that taylor swift thing going on where most of the men who date her want to get rid of her quickly

 

[bigneil]

she has a huge ego, many of her posts are more or less the same as when bigneil or da dynamically talk about how great they are

my theory is that she either is a seinfeld character and has crazy standards for the men she dates, or she's got that taylor swift thing going on where most of the men who date her want to get rid of her quickly

Or it's a Mexican man pretending.

She never did show a bank statement like I did, after she said "I make about the same as the man who makes about the most". She never did show any other photos except her black and white peek a boo.

When I reached out to her (because she is experienced in being divorced) she had steam coming out her ears in her first PM (I showed photos of my 21 year old GF). Then she threatened "to make me look bad" by going public with my private messages. She never gave any good advice. She is here to preach about how men my age should date her.

 

[zekko]

bigger tits, a prettier face, weighing less and being more in shape, are all things money can technically buy.

I'm not a fan of fake boobs, but I was thinking along these lines. Being able to hire a personal trainer and buy good, healthy, organic food also helps. Add on a good wardrobe, top stylist, manicures, etc.

 

[devilkingx2]

I'm not a fan of fake boobs, but I was thinking along these lines. Being able to hire a personal trainer and buy good, healthy, organic food also helps. Add on a good wardrobe, top stylist, manicures, etc.

I'm not a fan of cheap fake boobs, but I've seen a lot of porn so there are definitely fake boobs out there that look terrible, some that look alright, and some that while obviously being fake look pretty nice (Like mia khalifa!)

 

[zekko]

I'm not a fan of cheap fake boobs, but I've seen a lot of porn so there are definitely fake boobs out there that look terrible, some that look alright, and some that while obviously being fake look pretty nice (Like mia khalifa!)

Agreed. I've always thought that Penny from Big Bang Theory was an example of a nice boob job, but I've never seen her topless, so who can say?

 

[devilkingx2]

Agreed. I've always thought that Penny from Big Bang Theory was an example of a nice boob job, but I've never seen her topless, so who can say?

I had no idea that kaley cuoco had fake boobs, they look so real (possibly because they're not that big). if you google it it seems like her nudes are on the internet because she was hit by the fappening from a while back, however idk if those are real. her boobs don't look fake (or all that great either)

 

[zekko]

I had no idea that kaley cuoco had fake boobs, they look so real (possibly because they're not that big)

Yes, she's had a boob job, it's pretty well known among Big Bang fans. In fact, she was also quoted as saying that it was the best decision she ever made. I'm sure it's furthered her acting career. Probably wouldn't have been cast as the "hottie across the hall" without them.

As you say, they're not cartoonishly big, so that makes them more realistic. I didn't know she had been hacked, so I can't speak to that.

 

[devilkingx2]

Yes, she's had a boob job, it's pretty well known among Big Bang fans. In fact, she was also quoted as saying that it was the best decision she ever made. I'm sure it's furthered her acting career. Probably wouldn't have been cast as the "hottie across the hall" without them.

As you say, they're not cartoonishly big, so that makes them more realistic. I didn't know she had been hacked, so I can't speak to that.

ohh yeah right, I remember that now... I can't imagine how small they must've been before lol

 

[Urbanyst]

she has a huge ego, many of her posts are more or less the same as when bigneil or da dynamically talk about how great they are

my theory is that she either is a seinfeld character and has crazy standards for the men she dates, or she's got that taylor swift thing going on where most of the men who date her want to get rid of her quickly

She is a side piece for married men.