Top 10 Reasons Women Avoid Marriage

[SmooveMooves]

Most women are not worth dating.

Most men are not worth dating.

But both of those are only visible from the other side,

This is why anytime one of those woman bashing "things that women do that I hate" threads pop up I make fun of the men participating. The way this thread sounds you would think men were perfect and women are so evil and nasty that perfect is not good enough.

That is not the case.

Most people suck.

There are just as many shîtty men as there are shítty women.

Men expect virgin HB10s from a two parent household with traditional values to fall in their lap when they them selves are

• Overweight
• Boring
• Insecure
• Boring

We are not entitled to anything. Upping your market value is the only thing we can do.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

We are not entitled to anything. Upping your market value is the only thing we can do.

I am not a commodity, nor am I a consumer. But I get your point. Get better, not bitter.

 

[bigneil]

Consider how many women you encounter and (hopefully) date. When you increase your market value, each one of those women will have slightly more to offer you. It is the combined sum of ALL women treating you better that makes it more than worthwhile. For men improving means two parts: improving your income and improving your ability to get women (do them in that order as the first one can always command the second one).

 

[Urbanyst]

This is why anytime one of those woman bashing "things that women do that I hate" threads pop up I make fun of the men participating. The way this thread sounds you would think men were perfect and women are so evil and nasty that perfect is not good enough.

That is not the case.

Most people suck.

There are just as many shîtty men as there are shítty women.

Men expect virgin HB10s from a two parent household with traditional values to fall in their lap when they them selves are

• Overweight
• Boring
• Insecure
• Boring

We are not entitled to anything. Upping your market value is the only thing we can do.

Boring? That makes a low quality man know?

Is the man's role to be a performer on stage and a dancing clown? OR is the man boring because he doesn't have enough tattoos or a long enough criminal record? Lol.

Truth is 90% of women are boring.

 

[BeExcellent]

@BeExcellent, a hot 48 year old woman with 3 kids is NOT a total package.

A man your age with money will choose a hot 21 year old girl with no kids. And he will quickly see that SHE is not a total package either.

My girlfriends tell me about the men who pay them - some are millionaires. They are NOT hot. Even college women (I dated 3, for 2 years each) don't pretend to have this many hot, rich guys as options as BeExcellent lists. Gorgeous 20 year old women will say "I hate my life! There are no good men besides you. Tonight some man will make me want to vomit and I'll have to pretend to like him."

They might have one good guy, who is married and seeing 2 other women.

I could be wrong, but one thing I don't recall BeExcellent ever once providing is insight into what it's like to see her SMV peak in 1990 and decline for 27 straight years, all as the SMV for men her age has increased for that whole time.

Well that's because the SMV market tells me I have high value, obviously. All those men are divorced except the two I mentioned who never married in the first place.

They are all high income AND high value. That's who I date as I myself am both high income & high value. Water seeking its own level in action.

I turn men down constantly (nicely) and I'm oogled so much I don't notice any more. It's part of what a beautiful woman navigates every day, whether single, attached or married.

Your opinion makes complete sense Neil as a man without children as far as dating much younger. All the men I mentioned can and many have dated much younger...but they got bored and didn't relate to women that much younger...Also in most cases...they know much younger women are going to want babies at some point...and they've been there, done that & don't want babies anymore.

It has been my experience however that men who already have kids often want a woman who is already herself a parent. That way child rearing responsibilities are understood. Men like that I don't need financial provision.

So I find being a mom doesn't adversely affect me at all. I'm not Neil's cup of tea, but he's not mine either. I prefer to date men who are already fathers for many of the same reasons they prefer me. It's a similar life phase.

 

[Urbanyst]

Well that's because the SMV market tells me I have high value, obviously. All those men are divorced except the two I mentioned who never married in the first place.

They are all high income AND high value. That's who I date as I myself am both high income & high value. Water seeking its own level in action.

I turn men down constantly (nicely) and I'm oogled so much I don't notice any more. It's part of what a beautiful woman navigates every day, whether single, attached or married.

Your opinion makes complete sense Neil as a man without children as far as dating much younger. All the men I mentioned can and many have dated much younger...but they got bored and didn't relate to women that much younger...Also in most cases...they know much younger women are going to want babies at some point...and they've been there, done that & don't want babies anymore.

It has been my experience however that men who already have kids often want a woman who is already herself a parent. That way child rearing responsibilities are understood. Men like that I don't need financial provision.

So I find being a mom doesn't adversely affect me at all. I'm not Neil's cup of tea, but he's not mine either. I prefer to date men who are already fathers for many of the same reasons they prefer me. It's a similar life phase.

I think you're giving yourself too much credit.

How long do you think this will last? The men you're dating will be high VALUE much longer than you will. Then you will be at a point where you have limited options or none. Are you ready for that? Its coming.

 

[bigneil]

I think you're giving yourself too much credit.

How long do you think this will last? The men you're dating will be high VALUE much longer than you will. Then you will be at a point where you have limited options or none. Are you ready for that? Its coming.

@BeExcellent clearly doesn't understand that SMV isn't a feeling. It's a standardized diagram, not her opinion of how much she gets hit on by divorced Jewish men. According to her, she has the same exact SMV now that she had when she was 18 and had zero kids. And she is claiming that men with kids who are divorced (meaning they are slaves to other people) have a HIGHER SMV!

This is called being delusional.

 

[bigneil]

Based on the above chart, a 47 year old man is SMV 7, and a 47 year old woman is SMV 1.

It also shows how 20 year old women see their SMV increase (until age 23), which explains why women usually become impossible to please during that span.

Remember, it's how old you look more than how old you are. Men should date women 15-16 years younger (looking) to be compatible.

 

[Urbanyst]

@BeExcellent clearly doesn't understand that SMV isn't a feeling. It's a standardized diagram, not her opinion of how much she gets hit on by divorced Jewish men. According to her, she has the same exact SMV now that she had when she was 18 and had zero kids. And she is claiming that men with kids who are divorced (meaning they are slaves to other people) have a HIGHER SMV!

This is called being delusional.

Well everyone has their coping mechanisms. She (like most women) likes to pretend the rules don't apply to her.

When is the last time you met a woman who actually lived in reality? And I would go easier on her if she wasn't so arrogant.

 

[bigneil]

Well everyone has their coping mechanisms. She (like most women) likes to pretend the rules don't apply to her. When is the last time you met a woman who actually lived in reality? And I would go easier on her if she wasn't so arrogant.

She is the polar opposite force to Don Juans: a Feminist. The whole pickup community was a response to feminism.

 

[zekko]

@BeExcellent clearly doesn't understand that SMV isn't a feeling. It's a standardized diagram, not her opinion of how much she gets hit on by divorced Jewish men

You know as well as I do that a lot of guys date within their own age group. I'm sure some do this by choice, some do it because they don't realize they can date younger. I think BeExcellent's point is probably that she continues to be sought after by men in her age group. I don't find that hard to believe.

 

[BeExcellent]

My value remains high among the type of men I prefer, men who are late 40s or in their 50s who are already done with having children.

I do get hit on by men in their 30s with some frequency. Doesn't matter what Urbanyst or Neil say. Y'all can say I have zero value all day. Opinion has no basis in my reality. My real life results say my beliefs are accurate.

We will all age & die one day @Urbanyst. That doesn't bug me. I'm not fearful of aging and I have an abundance mindset.

I just got home from a nice first date. He's a tall, fit, sexy businessman who retired at 45 from investment banking. He's a Trump supporter like me, a millionaire, has 2 college age daughters & it was just a nice outing. He is financially secure & does as he pleases. And he's Christian, like me. I liked him. He had a nice kiss. And I texted him a Thank you to give Neil's strategy a whirl.

I'm not arrogant at all. It ain't bragging if it's true.

Sleep well gents.

 

[CMNILS87]

My value remains high among the type of men I prefer, men who are late 40s or in their 50s who are already done with having children.

I do get hit on by men in their 30s with some frequency. Doesn't matter what Urbanyst or Neil say. Y'all can say I have zero value all day. Opinion has no basis in my reality. My real life results say my beliefs are accurate.

We will all age & die one day @Urbanyst. That doesn't bug me. I'm not fearful of aging and I have an abundance mindset.

I just got home from a nice first date. He's a tall, fit, sexy businessman who retired at 45 from investment banking. He's a Trump supporter like me, a millionaire, has 2 college age daughters & it was just a nice outing. He is financially secure & does as he pleases. And he's Christian, like me. I liked him. He had a nice kiss. And I texted him a Thank you to give Neil's strategy a whirl.

I'm not arrogant at all. It ain't bragging if it's true.

Sleep well gents.

Plenty of choice? So you have loads of high income and high VALUE men chasing you and you're turning them down?

For some reason I find that very hard to believe lol.

Literally....how do you cherry pick a winner from all those prime men. How do you date so many winners and have high regard for so many of them, but they're just drops in the bucket basically.

@BeExcellent you keep talking about being fit, in shape and turning heads 24/7. What are we talking here? P90x fit? Instagram fitness model fit? Demi Moore in GI Jane fit and ripped. I come from the Midwest, most women at 47 have let themselves go after having kids

 

[bigneil]

"Opinion has no basis in my reality"
- @BeExcellent's opinion about the SMV

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You know as well as I do that a lot of guys date within their own age group. I'm sure some do this by choice, some do it because they don't realize they can date younger. I think BeExcellent's point is probably that she continues to be sought after by men in her age group. I don't find that hard to believe.

After dealing with different age ranges I found women within five years of me we're more supportive and it felt more natural. Women ten years and greater it felt like hell and certainly doesn't make me feel younger or more capable. A slightly older lady does make me feel younger and brighter.

 

[Urbanyst]

My value remains high among the type of men I prefer, men who are late 40s or in their 50s who are already done with having children.

I do get hit on by men in their 30s with some frequency. Doesn't matter what Urbanyst or Neil say. Y'all can say I have zero value all day. Opinion has no basis in my reality. My real life results say my beliefs are accurate.

We will all age & die one day @Urbanyst. That doesn't bug me. I'm not fearful of aging and I have an abundance mindset.

I just got home from a nice first date. He's a tall, fit, sexy businessman who retired at 45 from investment banking. He's a Trump supporter like me, a millionaire, has 2 college age daughters & it was just a nice outing. He is financially secure & does as he pleases. And he's Christian, like me. I liked him. He had a nice kiss. And I texted him a Thank you to give Neil's strategy a whirl.

I'm not arrogant at all. It ain't bragging if it's true.

Sleep well gents.

Ok, so you're just going to wh0re around with "high VALUE men" and reject them until you can't attract them anymore? That's your plan?

What are you trying to accomplish? Are you like a man where you're satisfied to get laid regularly even if nothing deep happens? Or is it just about validation and attention?

If you ask me.. a woman who has dated or slept with close to 100 men in her life doesn't exactly scream "high value" lol.

 

[bigneil]

I just got home from a nice first date. He's a tall, fit, sexy businessman who retired at 45 from investment banking. He's a Trump supporter like me, a millionaire.
I'm not arrogant at all. It ain't bragging if it's true.
Sleep well gents.

So you're dating a tall, sexy millionaire who is younger than you?

Sorry, but tall, sexy men who are millionaires don't tend to date women who are older than them and have 3 kids. Sounds like you really are bragging.

@BeExcellent is simply trying to reverse-stripper example me. Her message is simple: young, hot women will NEVER go out with guys who are 45 - because those guys have to date @BeExcellent.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

My value remains high among the type of men I prefer, men who are late 40s or in their 50s who are already done with having children.

I do get hit on by men in their 30s with some frequency. Doesn't matter what Urbanyst or Neil say. Y'all can say I have zero value all day. Opinion has no basis in my reality. My real life results say my beliefs are accurate.

We will all age & die one day @Urbanyst. That doesn't bug me. I'm not fearful of aging and I have an abundance mindset.

I just got home from a nice first date. He's a tall, fit, sexy businessman who retired at 45 from investment banking. He's a Trump supporter like me, a millionaire, has 2 college age daughters & it was just a nice outing. He is financially secure & does as he pleases. And he's Christian, like me. I liked him. He had a nice kiss. And I texted him a Thank you to give Neil's strategy a whirl.

I'm not arrogant at all. It ain't bragging if it's true.

Sleep well gents.

How exactly do business consultants get their knowledge? How can you learn something in school that would apply to the real world?

I'm considering hiring one for my house flipping business. I need to see what they're all about.

But in response to the post, MOST GIRLS get attention even if they're old. It is a normal quality of female's in society today to have an inflated opinion of themselves. And if they are hot and young, their opinion of themselves is so inflated, it might as well be German currency following World War I or Spanish silver coming back from the New World.

In fact, girls opinions of themselves are so ridiculously inflated these days that they think they can get away with lying, stealing, and being a complete b !t ch to everyone they meet. And they know that they can always rely on the law to protect them. Can you imagine if guys talked to each other the way that girls think they can talk to guys? There would be fights constantly.

 

[ManlyMichael]

I feel so blessed after reading this whole three pages of Baby minds,

woman know that money doesn't make them happy so who cares if they make money. It won't ever place them higher than a man that is free from society,

Men can be free from society, women depend on it. What's a billion dollars to one who doesn't need them anymore? The man walks around like he's worth more than trillions because his money is basically infinit, woman can have all the money they want, it's useless when you provide and turn from a boy to a man.

A woman wants to be free, only a man can make her free, but if he gets all upset at everything she does, she won't be free, simple game, she wants to get away with her bad ways, you gotta let some things pass and out seduce her.

If she seduces you then she gets away with her bad traits, and it shows that you wanted to become like her and you choose girl traits.

If you men seduce them and you get married with agreement on how you want to live, things you approve and things you don't approve, she chooses to agree to your traits which generally are not lazy or selfish (it's possible it could be bad, but if this is the case, the bad here is better than what the woman was previously doing)

Why woman don't get married? Because men have sex before marriage and forget that sex is your leverage for making her agree to doing the better things which require the work she wants to avoid. (Look at society, high paying jobs for lazy work, woman love it, but they are more sexually frustrated than ever!!) So basically, you go out see some nice girls, you forget that God said all women desire men (like extremely desire is what he meant in the Hebrew language it was written in) and you let your tool to develop her get soft and bust a nut before the job of making her acceptable to you gets accomplished. You try to tolerate her but you can't figure out why she wasn't acceptable to you!! She never was and never will be unless you can hold off the sex and talk about what you really accept and reject, stop saying things you don't mean to have sex, you miss out on some of the best sex that way.

Now as for who beExcellent is dating, none of them would be men that I would let my daughter date (if I had one that is) and I think almost all who she listed if not ALL who she listed had only daughters! That says something lacking in his honesty, (you should take time to notice the difference between men with sons and men with daughters, it's not random or by chance, if you believe in God, then you should know he makes not one thing a coincidence "even the very hairs of your head are numbered) second they are all rich, also another quality that says they are not solid men. A solid man who have no dependency on his money and would have given it to charity and went back to working, he wouldn't dare think to retire! Maybe do a little less work, try new things, but to cut out work? Something is wrong, I kind of see what the men are saying here about bragging, not so much bragging directly but there is a for sure pride, The fact that she never listed any average wage or even minimum wage, she has lost her will to truly love and she has set up a wall.

It's not surprising and nothing to blame her for, this life is messed up and the problems go too deep to say it's because of "this"

 

[MatureDJ]

It gets even worse. Just last week I was at the mall and this random guy (just normal looking) was asking people for spare change. He had asked me earlier but I saw him again on my way out. The second time I saw him he tried to talk to a FAT ugly woman to ask her for change. Right after he said "Hey can I ask you something?" she immediately said: "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" and waddled off.

To be told by a fat women that she has a boyfriend is the worst indignation a man can suffer through.