Men smv peak at 30s is kind of bull..

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I'm 56 and I have very little in common with the 20 year olds. Life is so much more than just ****ing young women.... You'll learn....
 

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You can date plenty of younger women at 30, they just don't full boyfriend zone you because they are insecure about it and it doesn't get them status and validation within their peer group, only individually.

Tbh most of us at 30 must "settle" for harems of hot but detached young women(women you couldn't get at other ages in any capacity unless you were somewhat talented anyway), women with baggage at the wall, gold diggers of all ages, or unicorn foreign women.
I have a friend who is 40 and his girlfriend is 23 and hot. He isn't even that good looking and he probably has about as much money as I do which is good money but not rich.

Women don't care about peer group after they leave college. They just want VALUE.
 

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I have a friend who is 40 and his girlfriend is 23 and hot. He isn't even that good looking and he probably has about as much money as I do which is good money but not rich.

Women don't care about peer group after they leave college. They just want VALUE.
Exactly. I've found that every girl I meet who is 19 or older will jump at the chance to do a paid modeling assignment (I got the rate down to $250 which seems to drop with each model). This is close to the cost of the average date in the US ($180). Just give them something they can feel proud of and they are yours for the (potential) seducing. The idea is to get them into a situation where sex might happen. Avoid situations where it is guaranteed not to happen. My deal with women? "I won't make you promise to have sex, and you won't make me promise NOT to."
 

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Exactly. I've found that every girl I meet who is 19 or older will jump at the chance to do a paid modeling assignment (I got the rate down to $250 which seems to drop with each model). This is close to the cost of the average date in the US ($180). Just give them something they can feel proud of and they are yours for the (potential) seducing. The idea is to get them into a situation where sex might happen. Avoid situations where it is guaranteed not to happen. My deal with women? "I won't make you promise to have sex, and you won't make me promise NOT to."
Makes me want to start a modeling agency. Seems like an easy way to meet HOT young women. Like fishing with Dynamite.
 

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Makes me want to start a modeling agency. Seems like an easy way to meet HOT young women. Like fishing with Dynamite.
They get to brag to their friends, show photos, say they are a model AND get dinner. Compare that to just dinner for nearly the same overall cost. Then consider the power a man has when he has complete control over her hair, makeup, eyelashes and outfit. This naturally polarizes the male/female essence of the pair. Spend an extra $100 and become her Producer and Director versus her dinner date.
 

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Well, I'll turn 47 next week... and I never had more pvssy since after age 41. My best relationship was at age 46.
That's awesome. I'm 32, and currently, life has looked a little bleak. The whole single mum situation can really be a downer.

Optimism is slowly creeping back in after seeing these posts.
 

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They get to brag to their friends, show photos, say they are a model AND get dinner. Compare that to just dinner for nearly the same overall cost. Then consider the power a man has when he has complete control over her hair, makeup, eyelashes and outfit. This naturally polarizes the male/female essence of the pair. Spend an extra $100 and become her Producer and Director versus her dinner date.
This is your line of work? If so, maybe you're an outlier in regards to accessibility and leverage with younger women.
 

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This is your line of work? If so, maybe you're an outlier in regards to accessibility and leverage with younger women.
It's a hobby that is tax deductible under my line of work (digital camera technology). Trust me, these girls pay their own taxes.
 

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It's a hobby that is tax deductible under my line of work (digital camera technology). Trust me, these girls pay their own taxes.
Smart. Got to appreciate the entrepreneurial approach you're using.
 

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Makes me want to start a modeling agency. Seems like an easy way to meet HOT young women. Like fishing with Dynamite.
You want to know what else is a "strange but true" type of goldmine? Be an uber driver in a nice city or big college town...Jesus dude, you would not believe how ridiculously funny it is. I literally was not prepaired at all for how often I'd get hit on while doing this...oddly a great way to make friends/get dates.
 

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This is your line of work? If so, maybe you're an outlier in regards to accessibility and leverage with younger women.
I work on computer and camera technology (computer graphics). This process of photographing, cropping, adjusting and especially rating photos is completely related to my business (my accountant signed off on it). In fact, it was more useful than I imagined. I couldn't believe how much cropping improves a photos rating. I'm learning how to spot the real beauties and dismiss the ones who I know won't score high. I really saw my last model as the ideal booth babe for a software trade show, especially since she liked computers and was very well spoken.

Also, when you give a girl a job and force her to report it to the IRS, you create experience on her resume and yours, so it's win-win. When a beautiful young girl thinks of herself as a model and not a stripper it makes a huge difference in her life, enough to surprise you.

Finally, these days girls have tons of selfies, tons of bad photos and very few high quality photos of most women. You can make a woman immortal with the right photograph.
 

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They care less about peer group but they still do care(depending on the girl). Do you understand how much sh1t they go through in a situation like that but, and how they take it our on their man? I'm talking college age in particular though.
Women will totally abandon their friends to keep a good man. Women don't give a sh*t about their friends. They have a biological clock to worry about and they can't afford to let all their eggs dry up over some peer group crap.

Of course I'm talking about the smart ones. Some are stupid and shallow enough to blow their opportunity to be with a high value man.
 

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That's awesome. I'm 32, and currently, life has looked a little bleak. The whole single mum situation can really be a downer.

Optimism is slowly creeping back in after seeing these posts.
It should be.

At 32 a man is just getting started. Blue pill will have you believe you're running out of time. NOPE. Only people with vaginas are running out of time at that age.
 

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Here is a funny post from a woman on the LoveShack forum:

Dating is So Hard!
So here's my story. I met a man online. He's 48, and I'm 28.He basically stated he wanted someone to spend time with, maybe more if it goes further. I'm thinking cool, kill time have fun. Free meals, etc.

He was pushing to met. Which is understandable, catfishing going around these days. He was very attracted to me. Saying we should met up again, You're so pretty etc. I thought he was cool.

The first week he was attentive texting me everyday. And, eventually we went on our second date . Which was fun. We even kissed. However the next week things changed. I asked him was he busy Friday. He said he had plans, but he was available Sunday. I just said "Oh" Didn't think much of it. So, I tried to make it up the following week being extra nice through text, finally he says we should do something Sunday. i said "Cool" . I was letting him make the plans etc. However, the day came upon, and I didn't hear from him.

Still haven't. I'm just confused. If this was suppose to be a fun adventure why is he making it more than what it is?

Men have LOTS of time to f*ck young women. Lots and lots.
 

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It should be.

At 32 a man is just getting started. Blue pill will have you believe you're running out of time. NOPE. Only people with vaginas are running out of time at that age.
This is definitely a refreshing reprieve I needed. A recent relationship has sucked the life out of me and my self esteem.

Time to get back up and capitalise on these up coming years.

Thanks for revitalising my perspective guys.
 

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The SMV graphs made famous by Rollo need some reading into them.

1) It is about potential SMV. Men can raise their SMV by working out, getting into positions of power, money (which is power), status, etc.

All of these things require time. You can't build a career in high school (well most people. The exceptions don't make the rule though). It takes longer than that. You can't get completely jacked in a year. It will take at least 2 of consistent hard work. Status and fame even in social circles is something that builds over time.

So when the graph says a man peaks around 30 or something, it actually means that is the rough time period that a man can actually get all of his sh!t together without being too old. If you didn't build power, didn't build career, didn't build your body, your SMV is might be worse than when you were younger.

2) Being older (and in a position of power) itself grants some SMV points.

In my part time job I am in charge of a lot of students ranging from middle school to high school, to early college. The amount of crushes girls have on me is kind of funny. They want to sit up close to me, they etch my name on tables, etc. And no I don't give them preferential treatment, in fact they get worse grades compared to the boys.
What part time job affords you the luxury of working as an educator whilst being at medical school? I'm genuinely curious as I'm studying physiotherapy but part time work besides bar tending can be hard to come by in Australia, especially education roles that require university certification.
 
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