TEXT ANALYSIS: WHAT THE FVCKING FVCK HAPPENED HERE?!?!

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Have sex with girl on first date and have amazing connection to complete disinterest in 2 days

Okay. I seriously do not understand what the hell happened here. I am sincerely at a loss for words. Keep in mind that I don't really care that this didn't pan out the way I expected. At this point I need your analysis on what the hell happened here for learning purposes because clearly i am sh1t at texting and want to be better for the future.

Also before you all tell me to go get other women and str caring, read my 100 days 100 sets thread. I have a bunch of plates right now. So that advice is void. I want to get better with text. And clearly something I did in these texts made her go from wet to dry quick. Either that or its something completely different. This is what this analysis is for: tell me if its my texts that caused this, or if it perhaps is something else.

A little context:

  • I met this girl 6 days ago
  • I walked into a sporting store and approached her
  • She was the cashier
  • I told her she was adorable and that i wanted her number to take her out
  • then I made fun of her sandwich
  • I end up giving her my number
  • She texts me back later saying something like "you were really cute and Im glad you came in today"
  • We build some really good rapport over text and I set up the date for two days later
  • the day comes and there is no sign of flaking
  • I meet up with her and the date is amazing > we had a great connection
  • So much so that at the end of the date we had really good s3x
  • She does tell me that she broke up with her boyfriend about 3 weeks ago (this i think is the kicker)

So here are the texts from the day after our date and s3x.

Notice a couple things.
- she is initiating all of the conversations
- she is double and triple texting me
- she is sh1t testing me and then, when i don't reply for 20 mins she completely apologizes for her own sh1ttests or calls them jokes
- to me these are HUGE signs of interest.

I have no idea how this went astray. Analyze please.

My hypothesis is that she got back with her boyfriend. Or perhaps that she was so emotionally interested in me that she got scared. I honestly don't fvcking know at this point. hahaha.
 

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You come across as trying to hard in your texts for me.

You seem quite "intense" in the way you word things, this gives an intense vibe to the convorsations, you dont want that because it has the reaction you got.

She thinks you are more into her than vice versa so has ejected.

Chill out a little bit.
 

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You come across as trying to hard in your texts for me.

You seem quite "intense" in the way you word things, this gives an intense vibe to the convorsations, you dont want that because it has the reaction you got.

She thinks you are more into her than vice versa so has ejected.

Chill out a little bit.
Okay good pointers. Too intense. Less try hard.
 

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You come across as trying to hard in your texts for me.

You seem quite "intense" in the way you word things, this gives an intense vibe to the convorsations, you dont want that because it has the reaction you got.

She thinks you are more into her than vice versa so has ejected.

Chill out a little bit.
actually now that I look back, I 100% agree with you. I do seem to be coming across as try hard like I am putting a lot of effort into my texts. The strange thing is I am not putting that much effort into them, its just what comes out of my mind, as I write a lot, so my mind naturally wants to construct complex sentences and weave words together like this. this is a bad thing for text conversations however.
 

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If you like really like the girl, do not move too fast. If you sleep with her on the first date, shame [if she is not a complete...] is likely to set in, and you may never see her again. Best to build a rapport.
 

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actually now that I look back, I 100% agree with you. I do seem to be coming across as try hard like I am putting a lot of effort into my texts. The strange thing is I am not putting that much effort into them, its just what comes out of my mind, as I write a lot, so my mind naturally wants to construct complex sentences and weave words together like this. this is a bad thing for text conversations however.
Ive made this mistake myself in the past.

How i fixed it is i text girls kind of the same way I'd text a bro. Informal, tease a bit and keep it fairly brief.

You have to "tone yourself down" a little bit with plates sometimes, because often they will be a level or two below you intelligence wise.

Think of how you'd let a kid beat you at football, its the same thing.
 

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Yeah you don't seemed relaxed in the texts and it's the day after the 1st date and sex. You got what you wanted 1st date, no need to rush and schedule another right away. Definite props on the first date lay. Would enjoy reading lay report, was it quick drinks and back to your place? How soon could you tell she was dtf. Etc.
 

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She probably just cheated on her boyfriend with you and regretted it....
No point in pondering intangibles.

In looking at the communication there's areas for improvement, finding them is a win for OP as it'll increase his effectiveness in the future.
 

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Too much talking. Seems like you were more invested than her. Work on being concise and getting to the point.

For example:

Current: "Perfect. I'm on off tomorrow. I'll come pick you up after you're done with your appointment and we can go for our second date Miss Pamela."

The way you should text:
"Perfect. I'll pick you up at <xxx> time at your place. Sound good?"

HB: I'll only be done around 330 is that ok? Btw where are we goingg??

You: Sure. 4pm then. It's a secret, wear something cute and you'll find out ;).
 

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Honestly, I don't think this is a lost cause. Since you got nothing to lose, you can text her...


"Honestly I thought we had a connections and chemistry. Sometimes words are misconstrued over text. I like the fact that not just are you sexy, but you are also (INSERT WHATEVER UNIQUE QUALITY SHE HAS). Let's hang out again as friends and see where it goes."

I disagree with some posters about moving too fast thing. I've made girls my girlfriend within 15 minutes of approaching (and we would end up dating for a year).

The key is to QUALIFY her based on whatever qualities she has, so that you show her you have standards and are not desperate. You can do that with "Not just are you sexy, but you are also (insert quality). I really like that about you. I want to see you again."

This is just one approach though. But it always works for me, whether I meet these women on OLD or at the clubs or in the streets. I can escalate as quickly as I want to because I know how to without looking desperate.
Op please dont do any of this.

If SHE contacts you down the line, which there is a good chance she will, then you can ask out in a chill vibe.

Dont go chasing her over the horizon asking to hang as friends.

Jeesus
 

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All good advice.

So far this is what i have gathered.

1. I seem too invested
2. I need to chill out in my texts
3. I seem rushed
4. I am talking too much > keep it concise.
5. keep the frame romantic and interest related > not friendship/gay friend frame
6. I am trying too hard
 

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Op please dont do any of this.

If SHE contacts you down the line, which there is a good chance she will, then you can ask out in a chill vibe.

Dont go chasing her over the horizon asking to hang as friends.

Jeesus
I wasn't going to, tbh. But thanks for the warning.
 

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Lol. If she contacts you? That's a waste of time. He is better off trying to see what works rather than putting her on a pedestal and waiting for her to reach out. Whenever a girl blows me off, I always throw a hail mary since I already got nothing to lose.

And you missed my point. If he somehow manages to get her to hang out, he can re-seduce her in real life the same way he did the first time.

The key is to get her to meet anyway he can. I'm sure his real life game is better than his text, that's what I am basing my advice on.
I agree that the goal is to get her back in person. Because an in person seduction can happen. But the question is do I do a hail mary or wait it out, because i do see her contacting me again. I think at this point in the seduction giving her some time to fall and some absence might be a good idea.
 

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I really don't know how guys have sex within 3 hours of meeting a hot girl, and then text like this and ruin everything.

My only guess is you guys are smooth before the sex because you don't care that much, but then after the sex you get emotionally involved and want more and more and more that logic goes out the window and emotions set in because you love the girl so much.

Bro I don't know, I could tell you what you did wrong but you had sex so fast with her, I feel it's pointless. I don't think I've ever had sex within hours of meeting a hot girl.
 

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I really don't know how guys have sex within 3 hours of meeting a hot girl, and then text like this and ruin everything.

My only guess is you guys are smooth before the sex because you don't care that much, but then after the sex you get emotionally involved and want more and more and more that logic goes out the window and emotions set in because you love the girl so much.

Bro I don't know, I could tell you what you did wrong but you had sex so fast with her, I feel it's pointless. I don't think I've ever had sex within hours of meeting a hot girl.
Can you explain to me why having sex that soon is actually counterintuitive to a seduction? Why is it bad to have sex with a hot girl this quick? I sincerely don't know.
 

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Honestly, I used to do 200 sets a weekend. By your pace, you are putting too much stock on each girl and cheating yourself from hail mary passes. I have resurrected so many from the dead leads because I didn't care and I was always hitting on women. The problem with learning slowly is the waiting game.

Do you know that you are on the road to 1000 sticking points and calibrations? I do. I used to be a leader of a pua lair.

My advice is just don't count these women until you have mastered the game. Forget her. She is just another learning experience. If you put too much stock on every woman, you'd end up playing the waiting game rather than learning as fast as you can.

You can master the game in 1 year or 4 years. It all depends on if you are willing to try everything instead of treating each girl with kids gloves.
I mean this isn't a terrible idea. I shouldn't really care. If it fails I am back to where I am now. Right? I am sincerely considering this now.

How to execute this in my situation?
 

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I think the text was too much fluff and not enough getting to the point. As in moving closer together, validating each other, getting a feel for how she feels about you, what she is looking for, etc. Basically you came off as platonic, which is incongruent with your approach/seduction.

I would have made it more romantic like "I had a great time. I want to see you again." The same way she said "Thanks for stopping in. You were really cute." Notice the romantic and sexual intensity in these two statements vs the platonic vibe you were throwing at her.

Women are susceptible to being frame controlled. And you might have just framed yourself as her gay guy friend instead of mysterious lover.

Basically, the vibe you were giving off did not match/remind her of former lovers .....and even your original approach/seduction......but former orbiters instead.

A relationship either moves forward or sideways and stalls. You already had sex with her but went backwards with your vibe.
I agree with all of this.

Within 10 minutes of getting a girl's number last night, I had her having orgasms from my texts. I was saying stuff like "I wanna see my cvm dripping from your pvssy" and "I'm gonna make you lie face down and put two fingers inside your pvssy".

She kept saying "stop, you're making me h0rny".

I'll try to screenshot the texts at some point. I can't believe how nasty some women are these days. They are BEGGING for rough sex.
 
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