Just met someone off Seeking Arrangement...

[RichardTheFrog]

I just met someone off Seeking Arrangement. It was just a "pay per visit" thing.

This was the first time I had sex in a couple months, and I actually hadn't had sex since joining this forum.

She just left 5 minutes ago. How does this change my moods towards this whole thing?

Well, for one, I can see the point in having a girlfriend or even getting married. So that you can have consistent sex. Even every day.

Two: I know I have a lot to offer girls when it comes to sex. I know how to please. It's not rocket science, but I have my cool penile implant that allows me to go forever.

Let's see... sex is a stress reliever. I no longer hate @Plums, although I do question why she is on this forum, but I don't really care....

But the important thing is.... this makes me realize how far I am away from having sex with any of these girls when I go out for free. It's like I'm light-years away. I mean... I can't even have a normal conversation. I believe it may be due to anxiety. I am always nervous. It was even awkward when the SA girl was here for the first few minutes.

I think my dream of a traditional wife and kids is probably completely farfetched, but I still want to have at least one kid. And hopefully a boy.

Part of me thinks that I should do more of this SA thing so that I'm less stressed when I go out. I mean, I'm literally going into Hooters and strip clubs thinking I even have any sort of chance of pulling the girls home. It's basically utter delusion.

I wish I were just better at normal conversation and acting normal so that I could get to know more girls. Maybe that way, I could get into their pants. I mean... there's really no tricks involved. She either wants to or she doesn't.

And I do realize that most girls are not like hookers on SA, but they are similar in that they are the same gender of the same species. Lol. I see people when they're out having conversations that last for hours, and I wonder what the heck they are talking about for so long??!!?!?! I can barely keep up a conversation that lasts for 3 seconds.

Also, I noticed that I am PARANOID when I socialize. You see, normally when I go out, I just sit there and don't talk to anyone. But even when this girl came over, the first thing she asked was to use the bathroom. I was literally worried she was going to come out with a gun and rob me. Lol. Also, I get all kinds of paranoid thoughts like "she thinks I'm weird," and stuff like that after she left. Most likely, she doesn't think anything about me one way or the other. But I can see how this paranoia would get in the way of any types of advanced socialization like meeting girls/people in bars and clubs and getting to know them beyond a few little awkward sentences.

But, anyway.... the sex was fun. She liked it, too.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I just met someone off Seeking Arrangement. It was just a "pay per visit" thing.

This was the first time I had sex in a couple months, and I actually hadn't had sex since joining this forum.

She just left 5 minutes ago. How does this change my moods towards this whole thing?

Well, for one, I can see the point in having a girlfriend or even getting married. So that you can have consistent sex. Even every day.

Two: I know I have a lot to offer girls when it comes to sex. I know how to please. It's not rocket science, but I have my cool penile implant that allows me to go forever.

Let's see... sex is a stress reliever. I no longer hate @Plums, although I do question why she is on this forum, but I don't really care....

But the important thing is.... this makes me realize how far I am away from having sex with any of these girls when I go out for free. It's like I'm light-years away. I mean... I can't even have a normal conversation. I believe it may be due to anxiety. I am always nervous. It was even awkward when the SA girl was here for the first few minutes.

I think my dream of a traditional wife and kids is probably completely farfetched, but I still want to have at least one kid. And hopefully a boy.

Part of me thinks that I should do more of this SA thing so that I'm less stressed when I go out. I mean, I'm literally going into Hooters and strip clubs thinking I even have any sort of chance of pulling the girls home. It's basically utter delusion.

I wish I were just better at normal conversation and acting normal so that I could get to know more girls. Maybe that way, I could get into their pants. I mean... there's really no tricks involved. She either wants to or she doesn't.

And I do realize that most girls are not like hookers on SA, but they are similar in that they are the same gender of the same species. Lol. I see people when they're out having conversations that last for hours, and I wonder what the heck they are talking about for so long??!!?!?! I can barely keep up a conversation that lasts for 3 seconds.

Also, I noticed that I am PARANOID when I socialize. You see, normally when I go out, I just sit there and don't talk to anyone. But even when this girl came over, the first thing she asked was to use the bathroom. I was literally worried she was going to come out with a gun and rob me. Lol. Also, I get all kinds of paranoid thoughts like "she thinks I'm weird," and stuff like that after she left. Most likely, she doesn't think anything about me one way or the other. But I can see how this paranoia would get in the way of any types of advanced socialization like meeting girls/people in bars and clubs and getting to know them beyond a few little awkward sentences.

But, anyway.... the sex was fun. She liked it, too.

How much you spend and how much time did you get? Using a these services as your primary connection to females is going to keep you stuck where your social skills never evolve that you don't need it anymore.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

How much you spend and how much time did you get? Using a these services as your primary connection to females is going to keep you stuck where your social skills never evolve that you don't need it anymore.

$250 for one hour. I know that's a lot, but price wasn't really the issue. Well, I'm about a million years away from getting any for free, I think.

It's my only option at this point, I think.

I sit there and don't talk to anyone, and when I do talk... girls just humor me and aren't really interested in what I have to say. They give me fake IOI's at best just to get more tips. I have no idea how to get any for free, so this is my only way to get sex at the moment.

Also, I was thinking about relationships while I was with this girl... and realized that a wife/gf is someone that you F U CK. It's not someone that you give money to. It's not someone that manipulates you. All that is bull****, but unfortunately, that's what a lot of relationships are like.

A relationship should involve sex every day without any form of manipulation or payment.

And what are these "social skills" you speak of? Is this going out and making a million friends, including guy friends and being "Mr. Sociable?" I'm afraid that's just not me. I don't have an attractive, outgoing personality no matter how hard I try. I will always end up just sitting there barely uttering a word. Am I supposed to have a FaceBook page with 3,000 friends? I'm afraid that's just never going to be me. I don't place importance on making friends. I have gone through enough in life that I know girls should respect and value me, but they don't. They don't even know who I am because I don't talk. I know that I have a lot to offer them if they would act like normal people and not like a bunch of pretentious retards, which they do.

After being with this SA girl, my anger at females had subsided for a couple hours, but I'm afraid it's back now. The stupid things they do once again piss me off.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Here are some other interesting things I noticed from this interaction...

This is the first time I've been with a girl since reading about the red pill and having my eyes opened a bit.

Check this out....

So the girl came in high heels and a skirt. She looked good. Then, she stripped down to her underwear. She looked great. Then, she got naked. Suddently, the glow wore off. So after we were done.... she put her underwear back on. Suddenly, she looked GREAT again. Lol.

The point is... they are hiding something that isn't even worth that much in the first place. Once they are naked, you can see their vagina that has been ****ed 1,000 times, and boobs. Wow, boobs. I've never seen those before. Oh yea and a butt. Spread the cheeks... look that's where her feces comes out of!!!

They look a lot better in skimpy clothing (especially a thong) than they do naked. This is why they hide it so much. Now, if you want to have sex, then of course they're going to look good naked.

Another thing I noticed... when the girl was here, we finished a little early. We chatted for like 10 minutes. It was nice, friendly chat. Nothing resentful. She told me about a car accident she was in and how she was suing the driver and their insurance company. She asked me why I had an implant at the age of 30. Lol. It was just normal chat. It makes me realize how superficial all the "conversations" I've been having at bars are. I don't think I'm anywhere near getting to have sex with any girl at a bar, let alone a bartender, in the next 1,000,000 years. I don't know why, either. I imagine they have sex with SOMEONE... so why isn't it me? What's wrong with me? And this is even before they know about my stalking charge, which I should totally not tell people about.

So when I was with this girl... there was no resentment. And there was no red pill resentment in me for probably two hours after she left. But now it's back. And it's only been 4 hours. Weird.

 

[Milano]

You are letting you mind enter a world you are not suppose to enter. Your mind loves these thoughts and you are addicted to them just like I was when extremely depressed for most of my 20s.

When you feel these bad thoughts are entering your mind, you must learn to replace them with something productive or you will never get anywhere

 

[Thorninmyside]

Do you think it's yourself that you resent?

I mean put it this way, if the game were exactly the same, but you were winning all the time, would you still hate the other players in the game?

I think you enjoyed your conversation with her because you got out of your own way without the obsession of a conquest to ruin it. And the fact that you saw her as no big deal naked is healthy and pedestal-free. Maybe you're not mr nightclub, and that's okay. Maybe you're mr. chat to the pretty girl at the post office and then ask her out.

If you need to hang out with a sugar baby again to practice your rapport with women, go right ahead, but every woman that you meet is a chance to learn how to talk to them, build eye contact, flirt a bit etc until it becomes the default approach.

 

[AJ84]

I remember when I was dating I was shy and anxious about long periods of silence during a date. I learned that asking the date about themselves, (work, interests etc) helped keep conversation going and eased anxiety. People LOVE talking about themselves. You won't be truly interested in half of what they say but it's a good way to get comfortable with conversation and it leaves a good impression.

With the the SA perhaps the anxiety wasn't that high for you at that time because both of you already knew what was going to happen. You didn't have to anything other than pay her so that takes a lot of pressure off of impressing someone, gaming them etc. SA arrangements are great for fulfilling sexual needs but it doesn't translate into regular non arrangement dating were game, conversation, social skills etc are needed.

Also, as nice as it would be, most relationships don't mean you get to have sex everyday. Ask anyone on this site who is in one.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

Have your doctor prescribe you some Xanax. Maybe that will help with your anxiety?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I remember when I was dating I was shy and anxious about long periods of silence during a date. I learned that asking the date about themselves, (work, interests etc) helped keep conversation going and eased anxiety. People LOVE talking about themselves. You won't be truly interested in half of what they say but it's a good way to get comfortable with conversation and it leaves a good impression.

With the the SA perhaps the anxiety wasn't that high for you at that time because both of you already knew what was going to happen. You didn't have to anything other than pay her so that takes a lot of pressure off of impressing someone, gaming them etc. SA arrangements are great for fulfilling sexual needs but it doesn't translate into regular non arrangement dating were game, conversation, social skills etc are needed.

Also, as nice as it would be, most relationships don't mean you get to have sex everyday. Ask anyone on this site who is in one.

All the relationships where the woman put my needs at a high priority LOVED making me happy. It made them feel good. So sex was 5-10 times a week. They would do it even if it wasn't their idea and after a few minutes they'd get into it.

All of the relationships where it was less than this, where sex was a power struggle, or she didn't have to do it if she didn't "feel like it" those were bad relationships. Because they don't help you in a lot of other ways.

 

[skinnyguy]

I just created an SA account for the hell of it and now I'm getting bombarded with messages. If you are willing to spend you could have a 9 in your bed every night. These girls are so willing it's crazy. You don't have to use game at all.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I just created an SA account for the hell of it and now I'm getting bombarded with messages. If you are willing to spend you could have a 9 in your bed every night. These girls are so willing it's crazy. You don't have to use game at all.

Pretty much. When I had an account back in February, I would get lots of messages. I just reactivated last week and they don't message first. I don't know what the problem is. My pictures are the same.

But yea it's pretty easy.

If you want to develop any sort of "game" from this site, it's how to be a "salt daddy." That is someone who promises to pay, ****s, then leaves. I don't really want to do that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Pretty much. When I had an account back in February, I would get lots of messages. I just reactivated last week and they don't message first. I don't know what the problem is. My pictures are the same.

But yea it's pretty easy.

If you want to develop any sort of "game" from this site, it's how to be a "salt daddy." That is someone who promises to pay, ****s, then leaves. I don't really want to do that.

Don't pay for that ish, let someone else do it. I've heard the girls that do that and they end up respecting people that are able to "play" them. They take it out on the paying customers, providers and guys who are good to them. It motivates them to play them harder.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You don't need a hooker; you need a therapist. I know I sound like a d!ck by saying that, but I don't know any other way to put it. I mean that seriously, and not as an insult, I promise.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

All the relationships where the woman put my needs at a high priority LOVED making me happy. It made them feel good. So sex was 5-10 times a week. They would do it even if it wasn't their idea and after a few minutes they'd get into it.

All of the relationships where it was less than this, where sex was a power struggle, or she didn't have to do it if she didn't "feel like it" those were bad relationships. Because they don't help you in a lot of other ways.

In these "RL's" you had to have been living with them. 5-10 is not realistic unless she's your neighbor or living with you or this was your college days. OP is struggling with even getting a date man nevermind a RL. Throwing stats out like this is just going to confuse him.

On a second note the majority of woman are not high libido. I've meet enough nymphos to know, I'm not discrediting your post, more of a clarification so OP understands.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

In these "RL's" you had to have been living with them. 5-10 is not realistic unless she's your neighbor or living with you or this was your college days. OP is struggling with even getting a date man nevermind a RL. Throwing stats out like this is just going to confuse him.

On a second note the majority of woman are not high libido. I've meet enough nymphos to know, I'm not discrediting your post, more of a clarification so OP understands.

My girls that gave it to me all the time weren't all necessarily nymphos or high drives either. They just genuinely liked me and liked to make me happy. My positive physical engagement was usually met with a positive response out of them. They fed off of how much I desired them.

Anytime a babe has tried to control or manage it or say "I don't have to or feel like it", it's messed it up for good.

So their drive wasn't high or higher than mines, they were positive minded enough to allow me to start it, and then after stroking or licking it would warm up to me...

 

[RichardTheFrog]

In these "RL's" you had to have been living with them. 5-10 is not realistic unless she's your neighbor or living with you or this was your college days. OP is struggling with even getting a date man nevermind a RL. Throwing stats out like this is just going to confuse him.

On a second note the majority of woman are not high libido. I've meet enough nymphos to know, I'm not discrediting your post, more of a clarification so OP understands.

I don't need you to help me "understand." I know more about the world than you do.

I had a girl from February until two weeks ago who would have done it 30 times per week if I would have been up for it.

I would say I am having just as much trouble WANTING a date. What is the point? Are we gonna talk about when we're gonna **** later? Am I going to get you pregnant at some point? Do I have to humor you and pretend that I think you're special?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't need you to help me "understand." I know more about the world than you do.

I had a girl from February until two weeks ago who would have done it 30 times per week if I would have been up for it.

I would say I am having just as much trouble WANTING a date. What is the point? Are we gonna talk about when we're gonna **** later? Am I going to get you pregnant at some point? Do I have to humor you and pretend that I think you're special?

RichardTheFrog,

You gotta get another girlfriend like that and pound it till you can't pound anymore. Screw wasting times on these snotty nosed babes who act like they are gods gift to the earth.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You don't need a hooker; you need a therapist. I know I sound like a d!ck by saying that, but I don't know any other way to put it. I mean that seriously, and not as an insult, I promise.

What, in your opinion, makes you think I need a therapist?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Don't pay for that ish, let someone else do it. I've heard the girls that do that and they end up respecting people that are able to "play" them. They take it out on the paying customers, providers and guys who are good to them. It motivates them to play them harder.

Might be worth a try, although it's all scumbag ****. But you only live once. Might as well see what it's like.

 

[Urbanyst]

$250 an hour to sleep with a 9? That's pretty affordable.

I've spent more than that taking women on dates. Sh*t. I've never used a prostitute but this sounds like a good bang for the buck (pun intended).