POF women are flakes

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

I want to ask guys like 9 volt, Tenacity and others how many messages a week you get from females messaging you first?

Depends on how often you are on and whether you first joined. If you are on often, your profile will show "online" and you'll will get more messages. If you just joined, your profile will be highlighted, and you will get more messages.

I wasnt on pof for the last month, but I logged in today, and in the last four days, received 8 unsolicited messages in my inbox:

Here it is.

Notice out of the 8, only one (the first one who I replied back to) is decent looking. If you are looking for a greater pool of attractive women online, you will need to solicit them.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

though you try to act like you are [everyone's type]

This is your claim, not mine.

I know for a fact the vast majority of women using old are bottom of the barrel

Let's say this were true, why not just accept that and move on. Why do you keep reiterating this repeatedly. You seem to be emotionally invested into this belief.

while you try to assume they aren't or make excuses for them

I don't make excuses for them. I accept them. Recognize this distinction?

while accepting to chase bottom of the barrel that you like to claim are quality.

Another straw claim that ALL are quality. Make one argument actually purported.

 

[Sho-No-Luv]

Depends on how often you are on and whether you first joined. If you are on often, your profile will show "online" and you'll will get more messages. If you just joined, your profile will be highlighted, and you will get more messages.

I wasnt on pof for the last month, but I logged in today, and in the last four days, received 8 unsolicited messages in my inbox:

Here it is.

Notice out of the 8, only one (the first one who I replied back to) is decent looking. If you are looking for a greater pool of attractive women online, you will need to solicit them.

Hmm, I can't see the two at the bottom, yea the one at the top is cute. You're not counting Markus are you, lol?

Btw, what state are you in New York huh?

 

[ubercat]

I've said it before but it seems to need to be said every so often. Game does exist. It's a collection of short term tactics and skills. What I don't understand is why we play that off against the idea of improving yourself. That is a long term strategy. So this week I went out and socialised, worked out, saved money yada yada. If I fail all the standard **** tests a girl throws on my Friday night date I'm not going to get laid. Comparing the 2 is apples and oranges.

 

[AttackFormation]

Notice out of the 8, only one (the first one who I replied back to) is decent looking.

Even an ugly woman can look attractive with the right camera angle, lighting, fake hair, and make up. You don't really know if she's decent looking until you wake up next to her. When that girl goes online with that picture, she's doing the equivalent of a male going on a steroid cycle and then using those pics on his profile. It's bullsh!t, but for some reason guys will still buy it and say she's "decent looking". Stop giving them free passes.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Even an ugly woman can look attractive with the right camera angle, lighting, fake hair, and make up. You don't really know if she's decent looking until you wake up next to her. When that girl goes online with that picture, she's doing the equivalent of a male going on a steroid cycle and then using those pics on his profile. It's bullsh!t, but for some reason guys will still buy it and say she's "decent looking". Stop giving them free passes.

So by your logic, just because she could be unattractive in person, means she is. Got it.

 

[AttackFormation]

So by your logic, just because she could be unattractive in person, means she is. Got it.

Nah you're twisting words, I'm saying your judgement of her as "decent looking" is premature. Until you see what she really looks like, she's just better at and making more of an effort in using the female tools than the rest are.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Nah you're twisting words, I'm saying your judgement of her as "decent looking" is premature. Until you see what she really looks like, she's just better at and making more of an effort in using the female tools than the rest are.

Impossible to tell, ultimately.

Sometimes, you meet a 7 online, and in person a 9.
Sometimes, you meet a 9 online, and in person a 6.

No way to decipher until you meet in person. What I can say is that about 75% of these women are less attractive in person insofar as they don't quite meet the bar. Even more reason to double- and triple-book at the same place and time.

 

[9Volt]

This is your claim, not mine.

Let's say this were true, why not just accept that and move on. Why do you keep reiterating this repeatedly. You seem to be emotionally invested into this belief.

I don't make excuses for them. I accept them. Recognize this distinction?

Another straw claim that ALL are quality. Make one argument actually purported.

None are quality online. you try to make the claim that an 8 or above using old is "quality".

sorry son. anyone upping their value to fish in a cesspool is full of it.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

you try to make the claim that an 8 or above using old is "quality".
.

Show me where I said this.

Again, make one argument actually purported.

 

[9Volt]

Show me where I said this.

Again, make one argument actually purported.

Riiiighto bro. You're trying to claim dudes need to.up their value to meet low quality online.

old is a given for low quality. YOU made the 8 claim of some chick as if that is auto "quality" while she's online dating. lol

and that top chick has three pics of her head only. the chick you replied to. frigging headshots. and the main one is touched up at that. gtfo

 

[9Volt]

I've said it before but it seems to need to be said every so often. Game does exist. It's a collection of short term tactics and skills. What I don't understand is why we play that off against the idea of improving yourself. That is a long term strategy. So this week I went out and socialised, worked out, saved money yada yada. If I fail all the standard **** tests a girl throws on my Friday night date I'm not going to get laid. Comparing the 2 is apples and oranges.

Tell me the success rate of these tactics across the board. I'll tell you the vast majority of those in the cult religion of game fail.

it's based on how you look, social status, physique, style of dress, being her type, social intelligence etc. not magic words or tricks. You can't pick and chose what game is or isn't. everything I mentioned has been around before "game". if game worked than any and every dude who mastered game could get any woman they wanted.

if game were real some whale could game any dude with words yet no one would give to shyts if some whale was gaming them as they'd be repulsed

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

old is a given for low quality.

Show me evidence that ALL OLD girls are low quality. A published study will do. I'm waiting ...

YOU made the 8 claim of some chick as if that is auto "quality" while she's online dating. lol

Show me where I said an 8 girl is automatically quality. For the third time, make one argument actually purported.

Now you are trolling.

 

[SteveBlaine]

My question is this......you go out with a girl from OLD and you both sort of hit it off and at end of date their is some kissing --not heavy kissing--just peck kisses.
You ask her out for a 2nd date and she agrees and you both are "clicking" while texting. Should I tell her straight up---Hey is their a physical attraction? Because I did go out with her on a 2nd date and there was some light petting, wrapped around each other, not much eye contact, then a peck goodnight kiss---and that was it.
I felt like I wasted my time with this girl. She did pay for most of the date though.

I mean how to not waste time with girls. I do spin plates but sheesh---not going to a long date with a girl that is not going to put out by the first date.
I should have cancelled on her by the 2nd date.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

My question is this......you go out with a girl from OLD and you both sort of hit it off and at end of date their is some kissing --not heavy kissing--just peck kisses.
You ask her out for a 2nd date and she agrees and you both are "clicking" while texting. Should I tell her straight up---Hey is their a physical attraction? Because I did go out with her on a 2nd date and there was some light petting, wrapped around each other, not much eye contact, then a peck goodnight kiss---and that was it.
I felt like I wasted my time with this girl. She did pay for most of the date though.

I mean how to not waste time with girls. I do spin plates but sheesh---not going to a long date with a girl that is not going to put out by the first date.
I should have cancelled on her by the 2nd date.

Double-edged sword, is it not?

Many here expect women to give it up on the first date or second date, and if they don't, then eject. But, if she lays on the first date, then she is a low-quality wh0re.

The usual guideline is three dates to a lay, assuming you are sexually escalating. There are many exceptions. My ex-wife took over six weeks. As long as you are sexually progressing with each date, then continue.

A peck on second date? I've had a few like those which turned into LTRs.

Ask for the third date, if you are still interested.

 

[9Volt]

Show me evidence that ALL OLD girls are low quality. A published study will do. I'm waiting ...


Show me where I said an 8 girl is automatically quality. For the third time, make one argument actually purported.

Now you are trolling.

Nice try troll.

it's no secret pof houses the lowest of the low.

your response to low quality online is talking about an 8.

And recently showing one chick you replied to one chick who only had three heads shots no less with the main one touched up.

so what's your position. tell dudes they should up their value to pick up the dregs of society online? you know like you been doing.

what's next you tell them to get phds so that they can enjoy working at a fast food joint?

you improve for yourself. not for chicks let alone trolling for them online. especially if your value is high you can meet much better and more quality irl that don't reside on sites like pof.

cmon son

 

[Roober]

My question is this......you go out with a girl from OLD and you both sort of hit it off and at end of date their is some kissing --not heavy kissing--just peck kisses.
You ask her out for a 2nd date and she agrees and you both are "clicking" while texting. Should I tell her straight up---Hey is their a physical attraction? Because I did go out with her on a 2nd date and there was some light petting, wrapped around each other, not much eye contact, then a peck goodnight kiss---and that was it.
I felt like I wasted my time with this girl. She did pay for most of the date though.

I mean how to not waste time with girls. I do spin plates but sheesh---not going to a long date with a girl that is not going to put out by the first date.
I should have cancelled on her by the 2nd date.

You are a prince! Assume she wants you, meaning you NEVER ask these sort of things. You are the prize, not the woman. If you have this mindset, you know the answers to the "is she interested?" Questions. When women say nice things like I miss you, had a great time, can't wait to see you, keep your feelings a mystery, especially in the beginning.

I always at least go for a long passionate makeout kiss, Lots of teasing, kissing the neck softly, butt grabs, hands on the skin of their back, even picked them up on top of their car (great way to test their sexuality, sexual women will naturally wrap their legs around you) on the first date, and usually don't go for a lay unless it is obvious that is what they want (hasn't happened yet). I aim for second to third date lays as this is more plate potential and they have built some rapport with you. Don't be afraid of your testosterone. If you want to fvck on the first date, go for it. A peck is polite! Fvck being polite unless you are a complete pvssy. Most men don't kiss, or just peck. Are we on SS most men? The more you escalate on the first date, the easier the second date will be.

Chris rock said it best....

Men do not go in reverse sexually, women do not go in reverse in the relationship/status.

Sounds like your innergame still needs some work

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Nice try troll.

it's no secret pof houses the lowest of the low.

your response to low quality online is talking about an 8.

And recently showing one chick you replied to one chick who only had three heads shots no less with the main one touched up.

so what's your position. tell dudes they should up their value to pick up the dregs of society online? you know like you been doing.

what's next you tell them to get phds so that they can enjoy working at a fast food joint?

you improve for yourself. not for chicks let alone trolling for them online. especially if your value is high you can meet much better and more quality irl that don't reside on sites like pof.

cmon son

You made three bald assertions with arguments never purported. I asked you to source. You ignored. Now more bald assertions with arguments never purported.

You are clearly trolling.

@Desdinova : If I'm getting warned presenting facts, then warn the troller here.

 

[9Volt]

You made three bald assertions with arguments never purported. I asked you to source. You ignored. Now more bald assertions with arguments never purported.

You are clearly trolling.

@Desdinova : If I'm getting warned presenting facts, then warn the troller here.

Are you not telling men it's their fault while assuming it can't possibly be the chicks fault?

then using old bottom of the barrel diving as "evidence" of what "successful" men do?

men should improve for themselves. And meet chicks irl. not in virtual dive bars because "look at this quality" which was a profile of three headshots of a chick who's using pof no less.

then trying to act as if pof isn't notorious for bottom of the barrel.

typical of a coward. when hes losing a disagreement claims "troll" to make the "bad man" stop.

I said you were from NY. and you are.

you're also an ex con. why should anyone take you serious legend?

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Are you not telling men it's their fault while assuming it can't possibly be the chicks fault?

then using old bottom of the barrel diving as "evidence" of what "successful" men do?

men should improve for themselves. And meet chicks irl. not in virtual dive bars because "look at this quality" which was a profile of three headshots of a chick who's using pof no less.

then trying to act as if pof isn't notorious for bottom of the barrel.

typical of a coward. when hes losing a disagreement claims "troll" to make the "bad man" stop.

I said you were from NY. and you are.

you're also an ex con. why should anyone take you serious legend?

Ad hominems? Somebody is really affected here.

Is this what you do when you feel humiliated?