I just realized something about being "incel."

[Epicwinguy]

I may be an older virgin, but I know of worse cases than mine. I have read posts from incels trying to get government provided girlfriends, refusing to work or do anything if they have no girlfriend, and even as bad as asking their own female family members for sex. At least I'm not ****ed up like that. I got a job, I'm not fat, and I got decent social skills, and I got other interests and good qualities.

This came to me as I was at the gym today, and I thought to all the guys who struggled yet refuse to even attempt self improvement of any kind. I would say among incels, I am one of the more desirable ones. If I am going to be a virgin, or "incel," then may as well become the best incel I can make myself, and hopefully that label will vanish sooner than later hehe.

I just thought I would make this post for any of my fellow virgins and incels who are reading this forum. These DJs are right, women are not the ultimate goal, they are a distraction, and fun past time. I will focus on my life, career, hobbies, fitness, and self overall.

 

[Reykhel]

I'm not going to search in google...what's an incel.

What is the point of this post? do you need a hand with anything?

Not taking the piss, that's what we're there for

 

[Epicwinguy]

I'm not going to search in google...what's an incel.

What is the point of this post? do you need a hand with anything?

Not taking the piss, that's what we're there for

Just felt like posting this, as kind of an update like a journal (though I can never stay consistent with those" and to let the virgin men on here know what I think as they might adapt this way of thinking. After all, its better to be a fit, financially well-off older virgin that does cool things than some fat 40 year old virgin who lives in his moms basement playing DND online all the time yet wonders why he cant get any women. I notice some sad virgins (other than myself) do post here and read this site.


Also, incel means involuntary celibate, or rather, a virgin who is not a virgin by choice.

 

[Reykhel]

Thanks for the response. Wow, I didn't know that mate. Yeah, you can post as you wish....

just one question brother: are you searching a solution or just to write?

I hope a solution

 

[Epicwinguy]

Ah this post was to help. I know what my problems are and solutions to each, but they will take time to work through. Especially my low income and lack of transportation problem lol.

 

[corrector]

I may be an older virgin, but I know of worse cases than mine. I have read posts from incels trying to get government provided girlfriends, refusing to work or do anything if they have no girlfriend, and even as bad as asking their own female family members for sex. At least I'm not ****ed up like that. I got a job, I'm not fat, and I got decent social skills, and I got other interests and good qualities.

Can you go into more details about these stories they do sound interesting. Let's try asking the government to provide girlfriends. What government? Did they write a letter? Are they expecting the government to hire prostitutes so they have access to sexual services for free? What benefit is there in not working if you don't have a girlfriend? Incest? Really? How old are these people? How do you know them? What country are they from?

I am not a virgin as I got married and divorced, but I still have an ongoing incel journal where I would still self-describe myself as 'incel'. Heck, after being banned from former incel boards (which have been shut down), I have dismissed the incel community as being losers. My journals have outlived their websites and I can arbitrarily definite who is incel or not based on my journals, including myself. However, for the purpose of your posts, I will accept that fact that you are incel based on my own journal's concept.

I don't think you have to be a virgin to be ';incel'. Based on former definitions of the term, I think it means you can't find a relationship within six months once you broke-up or divorced from the last one. I mean, even if you had sex, a relationship, or marriage, as long as you are single, and want to be in a relationship and/or have sex with a woman, but aren't able to without drastically compromising yourself or lowering your standards, then you are incel, right? You've got the frustrated virgin incel, or the other type of incel.

This came to me as I was at the gym today, and I thought to all the guys who struggled yet refuse to even attempt self improvement of any kind. I would say among incels, I am one of the more desirable ones. If I am going to be a virgin, or "incel," then may as well become the best incel I can make myself, and hopefully that label will vanish sooner than later hehe.

What type of self-improvement would help them? You are just basing self-improvement on going to the gym? The other guys that are incel don't like going to the gym?

I just thought I would make this post for any of my fellow virgins and incels who are reading this forum. These DJs are right, women are not the ultimate goal, they are a distraction, and fun past time. I will focus on my life, career, hobbies, fitness, and self overall.

After two failed relationships (including a marriage) and losing lots of money and emotions in the wake of it, and getting attacked by devils after using a prostitutes, I may have to concur. However, you are not talking from experience so you don't know what you are missing with a woman in your life. However, I still think I'm better off going through whatever limited experiences I have and think the saying "better to have loved and lost than never to have loved" is somewhat true.

I think part of the problem is that lacking experience with women could adversely affect other areas in life, such as career, hobbies, fitness and self since everything is coloured by the lack of experience. In career you are more hungrier for experience and may start having fantasies with female co-workers, bosses, or make decisions on who you may spend more time with at the office, etc... same thing with everything else. If you have some minimal experience, then at least you can sort of move on since "you've been there and done that" and have more mental space freed up for other areas. This is how I feel after I got married/divorced and seeing the prostitutes two years ago. It's like I felt really free to pursue other areas in life and appreciate being single rather than prior to the experience.

 

[corrector]

Ah this post was to help. I know what my problems are and solutions to each, but they will take time to work through. Especially my low income and lack of transportation problem lol.

So that would mean you are an economic incel. I think I'm an economic incel too. If I had allot of money then I doubt I'd really be incel. Also what is your race? I always figure white guys have an edge since they usually have access to good jobs and could easily get an Asian or minority woman if they get rejected by a woman of their own race since I see these types of couples all around where I live.

 

[Serenity]

I expected reading that you realized there is no such thing as being incel. In a way you did kinda say that. You're more desirable than the others because you've not given up entirely and still have hope.

Whenever someone claims to be incel I lose absolutely all hope for them, it's a declaration saying they have never fvcked and probably never will. Their mindsets are poisoned, usually beyond repair. I refuse to believe there are true incels, because it's just a guy too stupid to understand why nobody will fvck him while doing nothing towards that end.

I have fvcked several girls, what they all have in common is that I actively did something to get inside their pvssy. They didn't fall onto my d!ck, yet it seems that's what the average incel expects. That they have no responsibility for their sexuality and women should simply offer themselves up out of thin air.

You seem different though, good luck on your sex life. I would recommend not identifying yourself as an incel though.

 

[corrector]

I expected reading that you realized there is no such thing as being incel. In a way you did kinda say that. You're more desirable than the others because you've not given up entirely and still have hope.

He's more desirable when he's gotten laid until then he's still incel. A woman has to find him desirable. Who want's to be the most desirable incel who can't get laid? Absurd.

Whenever someone claims to be incel I lose absolutely all hope for them, it's a declaration saying they have never fvcked and probably never will. Their mindsets are poisoned, usually beyond repair. I refuse to believe there are true incels, because it's just a guy too stupid to understand why nobody will fvck him while doing nothing towards that end.

It's funny how people do not have any empathy to marginalized groups. Allot of people do not understand Black Lives Matter because it doesn't affect them. Allot of rich people do not understand poor people and think it's their fault they are where they are in life. Since you are not incel yourself then you don't understand what an incel is going through and have no empathy. It's sort of more "curse-like" than what you are describing. Do you know what a curse is? It means you are doing everything right and you still luck out. That's how I would say incel is like.

I have fvcked several girls, what they all have in common is that I actively did something to get inside their pvssy. They didn't fall onto my d!ck, yet it seems that's what the average incel expects. That they have no responsibility for their sexuality and women should simply offer themselves up out of thin air.

That is completely wrong. I am incel, and I can say that between March to now I have made many attempts to ask for phone numbers, and have either gotten rejected, or have women that I'm not interested in because they are deficient (i.e. they have a child, or they are not Christians like myself and may have devils, didn't want any women with baggage etc....). I don't expect anything to fall into anything. I'm not a celebrity, have lots of charm or charisma, or are popular with women, I am very realistic.

To say such things are like saying a working poor person (i.e. someone who is working hard but can't afford a roof over their head, or ends up at the food bank) are lazy people. These days, people who go to work for some of these jobs do not mean they escape poverty. Similarly, no matter what work you put towards "getting fvcked", as you say, doesn't mean you get "fvcked".

Don't tell OP not to self-identify as incel. It's not his fault no woman has found him desirable and this is a "condition", like an "attract (quality) women" illness. People should lean to understand marginalized groups rather than deny their issues are real.

 

[Epicwinguy]

He's more desirable when he's gotten laid until then he's still incel. A woman has to find him desirable. Who want's to be the most desirable incel who can't get laid? Absurd.



It's funny how people do not have any empathy to marginalized groups. Allot of people do not understand Black Lives Matter because it doesn't affect them. Allot of rich people do not understand poor people and think it's their fault they are where they are in life. Since you are not incel yourself then you don't understand what an incel is going through and have no empathy. It's sort of more "curse-like" than what you are describing. Do you know what a curse is? It means you are doing everything right and you still luck out. That's how I would say incel is like.



That is completely wrong. I am incel, and I can say that between March to now I have made many attempts to ask for phone numbers, and have either gotten rejected, or have women that I'm not interested in because they are deficient (i.e. they have a child, or they are not Christians like myself and may have devils, didn't want any women with baggage etc....). I don't expect anything to fall into anything. I'm not a celebrity, have lots of charm or charisma, or are popular with women, I am very realistic.

To say such things are like saying a working poor person (i.e. someone who is working hard but can't afford a roof over their head, or ends up at the food bank) are lazy people. These days, people who go to work for some of these jobs do not mean they escape poverty. Similarly, no matter what work you put towards "getting fvcked", as you say, doesn't mean you get "fvcked".

Don't tell OP not to self-identify as incel. It's not his fault no woman has found him desirable and this is a "condition", like an "attract (quality) women" illness. People should lean to understand marginalized groups rather than deny their issues are real.

You don't understand, though. Its better to be an virgin in good health, decent income, and cool experiences and things going on in his life than to be a virgin that does nothing but complain he is a virgin. I did this the past six or so years and it didn't work, time to make a change and these DJs make sense to me. Why not try it out t least?

 

[Dingo]

Can't you just ride a bike and meet low income women to screw ? Always seem to be plenty of those willing to put out.

Also what's with the "demons" and prostitutes thing ?

 

[Epicwinguy]

Can't you just ride a bike and meet low income women to screw ? Always seem to be plenty of those willing to put out.

Also what's with the "demons" and prostitutes thing ?

I live in Texas. Hard to meet women when you're dripping with sweat from riding around on your bike. I am currently looking for a cheap used car.

And that demons thing was the other guy. I ain't religious.

 

[Dingo]

Well get cracking.... make some money and screw some *****s.... This incel thing sounds terrible.

 

[corrector]

You don't understand, though. Its better to be an virgin in good health, decent income, and cool experiences and things going on in his life than to be a virgin that does nothing but complain he is a virgin. I did this the past six or so years and it didn't work, time to make a change and these DJs make sense to me. Why not try it out t least?

Yes you are right, and in analogy it's best if you were a rich Black person who lived in the 1950's rather than a poor Black person. You still have to enter through the side of the store. It still doesn't change the fundamental injustice with is equality.

Try what out? First of all I'm a non-virgin, divorcee incel so I can't complain about not being a virgin. That would be irrational for me to do.
I actually don't write complaint posts or complain about anything and I actually give thanks to God every day for all of His blessings on my life.
Complaining doesn't help anyone, it just makes you feel sour and miserable.

 

[corrector]

Can't you just ride a bike and meet low income women to screw ? Always seem to be plenty of those willing to put out.

Also what's with the "demons" and prostitutes thing ?

It is what it says. I went with prostitutes and her demons or demons from the location followed me and attacked me the next day and tried to possess me and kill me or something. I was harassed by them for a month. I explained this many times before. They are long gone and I have stayed away from prostitutes since.
All I can say is Jesus used my mother to deliver me and exorcise the devils from them out of me and now I'm totally back to normal.

These devils caused panic attacks in my sleep, caused me to like not be able to sleep, eat, drive, or even watch movies (felt I'd lose my mind if I did, anything fictional or deep in terms of fiction), and youtube music videos. Felt like nausea, throwing up most of the time, and it took a while for this all to go. They zapped me so bad I could not masturbate or even watch porn for a month and a half.

This is now a worst threat to me than both the police or STD. In Canada, there is virtually no enforcement, and an STD you can treat or at least know you have it. A demon is more menacing. It's like the monster in the closet since you can't prove it's there but you know something is inside you or around you that should not be there. You can just feel it.

 

[Epicwinguy]

It is what it says. I went with prostitutes and her demons or demons from the location followed me and attacked me the next day and tried to possess me and kill me or something. I was harassed by them for a month. I explained this many times before. They are long gone and I have stayed away from prostitutes since.
All I can say is Jesus used my mother to deliver me and exorcise the devils from them out of me and now I'm totally back to normal.

These devils caused panic attacks in my sleep, caused me to like not be able to sleep, eat, drive, or even watch movies (felt I'd lose my mind if I did, anything fictional or deep in terms of fiction), and youtube music videos. Felt like nausea, throwing up most of the time, and it took a while for this all to go. They zapped me so bad I could not masturbate or even watch porn for a month and a half.

This is now a worst threat to me than both the police or STD. In Canada, there is virtually no enforcement, and an STD you can treat or at least know you have it. A demon is more menacing. It's like the monster in the closet since you can't prove it's there but you know something is inside you or around you that should not be there. You can just feel it.

A mental institution might be more your speed, buddy

 

[corrector]

A mental institution might be more your speed, buddy

I'm not the one who made this thread. Be careful attacking other incel. At least I got married and had two relationships so I'm not as bad as you are since women have desired me. I must have something these women liked. I also turned down plenty of women. How many women have you turned down?

Why don't you come back and update us when you have a girlfriend or maybe you'll get me posting on here. That goes for anyone else who makes threads about this topic, about wanting to see a prostitute because they can't get laid. Keep these things to yourself and do what you have to do.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I'm not the one who made this thread. Be careful attacking other incel. At least I got married and had two relationships so I'm not as bad as you are since women have desired me. I must have something these women liked. I also turned down plenty of women. How many women have you turned down?

Why don't you come back and update us when you have a girlfriend or maybe you'll get me posting on here. That goes for anyone else who makes threads about this topic, about wanting to see a prostitute because they can't get laid. Keep these things to yourself and do what you have to do.

Just stop preaching about your mind-police god

 

[Dingo]

WTF ?... lol...

 

[corrector]

Just stop preaching about your mind-police god

I think you have a demon because it sounds as though you are anti-God. I am speaking from my experience. I can say that you are crazy because you never had a woman and should go to a mental institution because your experience is not normal. Perhaps I have reasons to say this. There are a number of people who have snapped and started killing women.

George Sodini is one of them. Like you he went to the Gym and eventually snapped and went on a killing rampage inside the Gym:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting

Here's another incel who went on a shooting rampage:
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/inside_the_terrifying_twisted_online_world_of_involuntary_celibates/

You see, who is to say you are not going to eventually snap and do something like that. George Sodini went to the Gym like you are doing and thought he'd eventually get laid. I think if these people went to church and were Bible believing Christians who put God first in their lives and honoured Him that this would have turned out much differently. They would at least have had something to keep these type of bends in check. So, maybe you should find something higher than talking about improving yourself since we all know you have a bitter resentment that you can't get any tail and how this will eventually go.

In fact, it's because of people like this incel boards, wikipedia definitions, were just taken off the internet. So maybe you should start with denouncing this stuff rather than saying anything about how I express my faith and how that has helped me live a higher level of life.