I just realized something about being "incel."

[Epicwinguy]

I think you have a demon because it sounds as though you are anti-God. I am speaking from my experience. I can say that you are crazy because you never had a woman and should go to a mental institution because your experience is not normal. Perhaps I have reasons to say this. There are a number of people who have snapped and started killing women.

George Sodini is one of them. Like you he went to the Gym and eventually snapped and went on a killing rampage inside the Gym:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting

Here's another incel who went on a shooting rampage:
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/inside_the_terrifying_twisted_online_world_of_involuntary_celibates/

You see, who is to say you are not going to eventually snap and do something like that. George Sodini went to the Gym like you are doing and thought he'd eventually get laid. I think if these people went to church and were Bible believing Christians who put God first in their lives and honoured Him that this would have turned out much differently. They would at least have had something to keep these type of bends in check. So, maybe you should find something higher than talking about improving yourself since we all know you have a bitter resentment that you can't get any tail and how this will eventually go.

In fact, it's because of people like this incel boards, wikipedia definitions, were just taken off the internet. So maybe you should start with denouncing this stuff rather than saying anything about how I express my faith and how that has helped me live a higher level of life.

Dude, you got cheated on. Your wife left you. God help you then? Also, a lot of this site involves banging women and is against marriage. I don't think you belong here.

 

[corrector]

Dude, you got cheated on. Your wife left you. God help you then? Also, a lot of this site involves banging women and is against marriage. I don't think you belong here.

Who said I got cheated on? Either way, I still had a girlfriend, and still had a wife and have a past. At least I'm not a virgin like you are. Maybe we'll hear about you on the news too when you go on your rampage and this board will get in trouble for having you here.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Incel? The Fūck? I gotta give credit man, you identity police are really clever in crafting these new victim identities where you can feel like you belong to something.

I would offer Op advice but I honestly believe people who adhere to such catchy "marginalized" groups are honestly helpless. With this type of thinking you are confining yourself to a cage, a glass box.

You are not an "Incel." You are whatever your name is. An individual. I'm sure there are many more layers to your character more important than you being a virgin. Many of which probably having something do with why you're a virgin and identify with such a nonsensical identity.

What? Are there other "incels?" Is there a forum where incels can circlejerk about how much there life sucks? The sooner you shed this identity you've concocted for yourself, the faster you'll be on the path to losing your virginity.

 

[corrector]

I think everything changed when these shooters started killing women (or men who have it too easy with women) and the definition was taken off of wikipedia, support-boards were taken down, and the whole thing is just a mere ghost or shadow of what it once was. When I was in the forum, back in 2005 (i.e. 11 years ago from today?), that is probably how you would describe it.

If someone would beat incel they would call it graduation. This is not the only definition. You have "forced lonliness", "love-shy", or in PUA-lingo WBAFC (Way Below Average Frustrated Chump). The question is if there is really a DJ/PUA solution to it, or if there is some pre-requisite knowledge/experience or looks that is to be expected to even assimilate the information that it could be of any practical use.

Honestly, I met a lady from an incel site. However, I couldn't bring myself to do anything with her further than watching some movies with her and thought the experience with her was rather boring. Apart from that, the incel site didn't really do anything for me other than create new enemies.

Even on this thread, the OP had to attack me and I was his ally and is just more set on trying to prove that he is better than other INCELs. I just pointed out the obvious. He's a freaking virgin so what makes him better than other Incels who are trying other things. If he wants to try going to the gym, good for him! Lots of people go to the gym. Don't tear down people who choose not to do anything and are happily resigned to their fate or who try desperate solutions. Allot of people on here, including myself, also go to the Gym so that's not a big deal.

 

[marmel75]

On some level you must be wanting to be a virgin because sex is so easy to get these days its ridiculous. You would literally have to have negative game not to fall into some pvssy if you are even trying at all. If you put a little time and effort into OLD you could get laid by next week easily. Sh!yt...if I put a little time into OLD I could bang 3 or 4 chicks by next weekend.

 

[MrWood]

wtf is correct. I have gone stretches without sex in my life while single, 6mo/1yr, but was not "involuntary celibate".
By the age of 20 i hit my age/partner ratio, I am 50 and maintain that ratio
I was married 4 times and never cheated over a total of 15yr of those marriages, yet still maintain ratio

wtf is this bs "incel"??? agree with some here that this topic has no real basis being on SS

@corrector: you Sir need non-religious based psycharactic counceling asap

 

[Serenity]

@corrector You don't seem to have your feet on the ground. I'm not gonna take you seriously.

@Epicwinguy Don't turn into that guy. PM me or make a thread if there's anything specific you're wondering about to achieve your goal. This isn't an incel forum, a lot of guys here actually have sex and are happy to share valuable experience about how to get it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

wtf is correct. I have gone stretches without sex in my life while single, 6mo/1yr, but was not "involuntary celibate".
By the age of 20 i hit my age/partner ratio, I am 50 and maintain that ratio
I was married 4 times and never cheated over a total of 15yr of those marriages, yet still maintain ratio

wtf is this bs "incel"??? agree with some here that this topic has no real basis being on SS

@corrector: you Sir need non-religious based psycharactic counceling asap

"incel" is involuntarily celebate. So they want to shed the curse, but cannot seem to no matter what.

 

[marmel75]

wtf is correct. I have gone stretches without sex in my life while single, 6mo/1yr, but was not "involuntary celibate".
By the age of 20 i hit my age/partner ratio, I am 50 and maintain that ratio
I was married 4 times and never cheated over a total of 15yr of those marriages, yet still maintain ratio

wtf is this bs "incel"??? agree with some here that this topic has no real basis being on SS

@corrector: you Sir need non-religious based psycharactic counceling asap

You shoulda stopped getting married after the 2nd one...at some point you should have realized that marriage simply isn't for you.

 

[corrector]

You shoulda stopped getting married after the 2nd one...at some point you should have realized that marriage simply isn't for you.

Maybe he needs to see a shrink before he marries a fifth time.

 

[Epicwinguy]

Incel? The Fūck? I gotta give credit man, you identity police are really clever in crafting these new victim identities where you can feel like you belong to something.

I would offer Op advice but I honestly believe people who adhere to such catchy "marginalized" groups are honestly helpless. With this type of thinking you are confining yourself to a cage, a glass box.

You are not an "Incel." You are whatever your name is. An individual. I'm sure there are many more layers to your character more important than you being a virgin. Many of which probably having something do with why you're a virgin and identify with such a nonsensical identity.

What? Are there other "incels?" Is there a forum where incels can circlejerk about how much there life sucks? The sooner you shed this identity you've concocted for yourself, the faster you'll be on the path to losing your virginity.

How can I feel confident and high self worth despite being a 23 year old virgin? It really sucks. I know you probably heard this question before, but you seem you might be able to help here.

 

[resilient]

@Epicwinguy. My two cents? Hit the gym, man. Take up some masculine hobbies. Build and create an interesting you. When you have so many cool things going on for you and you're hitting various social circles, women will pick up on the cool guy you're becoming and will want to learn more about you. Those masculine hobbies should help instill confidence and self-worth if you apply yourself and are disciplined. The cool thing about about physical exertion? You get a flood of neurotransmitters that boost your well-being.

 

[Reykhel]

wtf is correct. I have gone stretches without sex in my life while single, 6mo/1yr, but was not "involuntary celibate".
By the age of 20 i hit my age/partner ratio, I am 50 and maintain that ratio
I was married 4 times and never cheated over a total of 15yr of those marriages, yet still maintain ratio

wtf is this bs "incel"??? agree with some here that this topic has no real basis being on SS

@corrector: you Sir need non-religious based psycharactic counceling asap

Married four times in fifteen years!! holy baby jesus floating down the Ganges river in a weave basket on lsd...

Why is the only question that springs to mind.

When all you have is a hammer, every problem presents itself as a nail..

I wonder do you have your eye on a fifth time or have you finally seen the light....

 

[MrWood]

4 times over 30yr, 15 total. heh

1. preggo 4
2. preggo 7
3. love? 2.5
4. visa (mostly) 1.5

 

[corrector]

The thing that I have realized today is that I'm not involuntary celibacy. Basically, involuntary celibacy was used as a cover for harbouring being a wanton fornicator at heart. I would look at adult classifieds of escorts and just masturbate on them and felt like I could do this with anyone I want at any time. At first I thought this was a harmless thing and thought that when I got married that somehow this would all change and I'd lose these type of desires.

For the record, I got married on July 5, 2014. While I may complain that I was lied to concerning this marriage, I still had sex with my ex-wife, and when the marriage ended on October 18, 2014, I went and actually visited three different escorts in the space of 24 hours, and at that point, I have realized that this was my true self all along. What may have looked like an innocent and harmless preoccupation to relieve stress in the mind, or that was even indulged in prior and during the marriage, manifested itself after the separation. Meaning that I had a mask on, and if the right circumstances presented itself, I'd jump at the chance to be a wanton fornicator in some 'orgy-like' context.

However, there is one problem with this. Fornicators have eternal sanctions of either losing rewards in heaven, or going to hell, depending on how you interpret 1 Cor 6:9. I know one thing, whenever I look at any adult classified now it's not the same. I feel this twisted, unbalanced sick feeling, and worry if I'll be able to fall alseep or if I'd end up in hell. (i.e. imagine if you had a brain aneurysm while fapping at porn where you could end up?) I've decided that I do not want to be any wanton fornicator and therefore, by definition of being a Christian, I can't really be involuntary celibate and must be necessarily voluntary celibate. After all, who voluntarily wants to go to hell or lose potential rewards in heaven? I don't.

Therefore, we can all rest the issue that, as of this day, I'm no longer involuntary celibate and Epicwing guy was right in suggesting that my only affinity to a site like this is because I'm hypocritical in harbouring fornication in spirit and may think people are happier with that type of lifestyle. However, I would not be happy with this if it's bothering me so much and prefer to have peace with myself and with God even if I become a monk. I'll be the most happy monk because I know this is who I am and what I want whereas before, maybe I wasn't sure about that on a heart level.

I renounce anything dealing with lust or fornication and declare that I'm celibate for Jesus as of today.

 

[marmel75]

The thing that I have realized today is that I'm not involuntary celibacy. Basically, involuntary celibacy was used as a cover for harbouring being a wanton fornicator at heart. I would look at adult classifieds of escorts and just masturbate on them and felt like I could do this with anyone I want at any time. At first I thought this was a harmless thing and thought that when I got married that somehow this would all change and I'd lose these type of desires.

For the record, I got married on July 5, 2014. While I may complain that I was lied to concerning this marriage, I still had sex with my ex-wife, and when the marriage ended on October 18, 2014, I went and actually visited three different escorts in the space of 24 hours, and at that point, I have realized that this was my true self all along. What may have looked like an innocent and harmless preoccupation to relieve stress in the mind, or that was even indulged in prior and during the marriage, manifested itself after the separation. Meaning that I had a mask on, and if the right circumstances presented itself, I'd jump at the chance to be a wanton fornicator in some 'orgy-like' context.

However, there is one problem with this. Fornicators have eternal sanctions of either losing rewards in heaven, or going to hell, depending on how you interpret 1 Cor 6:9. I know one thing, whenever I look at any adult classified now it's not the same. I feel this twisted, unbalanced sick feeling, and worry if I'll be able to fall alseep or if I'd end up in hell. (i.e. imagine if you had a brain aneurysm while fapping at porn where you could end up?) I've decided that I do not want to be any wanton fornicator and therefore, by definition of being a Christian, I can't really be involuntary celibate and must be necessarily voluntary celibate. After all, who voluntarily wants to go to hell or lose potential rewards in heaven? I don't.

Therefore, we can all rest the issue that, as of this day, I'm no longer involuntary celibate and Epicwing guy was right in suggesting that my only affinity to a site like this is because I'm hypocritical in harbouring fornication in spirit and may think people are happier with that type of lifestyle. However, I would not be happy with this if it's bothering me so much and prefer to have peace with myself and with God even if I become a monk. I'll be the most happy monk because I know this is who I am and what I want whereas before, maybe I wasn't sure about that on a heart level.

I renounce anything dealing with lust or fornication and declare that I'm celibate for Jesus as of today.

Is this real life? Maybe you should call Jerry Springer...I'm sure he'd love to hear about this

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

This came to me as I was at the gym today, and I thought to all the guys who struggled yet refuse to even attempt self improvement of any kind.

I have fvcked several girls, what they all have in common is that I actively did something to get inside their pvssy. They didn't fall onto my d!ck, yet it seems that's what the average incel expects.

These are the basic fundamentals of the matter. Everything else regards attracting women is rather extra-curricular....

1) If you're not a catch, make yourself a catch.
2) If you're not sociable, or not talking to women, start doing so.

It's really not any more complex than that. Problem being, it requires guts and pure honesty with oneself (along with a fair amount of hard work), which is why so many just sit around on their a$$es, deriding the fairness of life on the internet.

 

[Serenity]

@corrector There's no hell, there's no heaven. They're not actual places you may end up in after death. They're metaphorical expressions for being at a good or bad place in life emotionally speaking. If you make bad choices you'll get the consequences later, which may feel like hell. If you make good choices you'll get the consequences of that, which may feel like heaven. When you're dead there's just nothing, just like before you were born.

I hate seeing how religion scares the sh!t out of people and preventing humanity to be fully human.

 

[@Jonanthony]

Hmmmm

If the OP is indeed involuntary in this then some excellent advice above....get practice communicating... Honesty, guts and determination all help .Be confident in yourself .Self confidence will be a great step forward to changing your status quo...All else will fall into line

 

[NSX-R]

WTF ?... lol...

Push the button. Time to eject.