Wow...this REALLY is the mindset of most women, apparently...

[marmel75]

If you will go back and read the article you will hopefully realize that it isn't that she can't be bothered to go to the store! She previously used to go on a weekly basis, now she goes on a daily basis! The part of planning out an entire week's menu in advance is what she doesn't do anymore.

Which typically means she likely is serving processed crap on a daily basis...

 

[The Duke]

Which typically means she likely is serving processed crap on a daily basis...

Well we would have to assume that! I like to go by the facts. I think I made my point, spin the story to your favor to cover up the fact you can't read no.

Which typically means she likely is serving processed crap on a daily basis...

I guess you would have to assume that. But spin it however you want.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Articles or discussion topics like this will show the divisions of the regulars here of who falls on which side. We're not going to be able to sway a lot of folks to come to the other side.

 

[Tenacity]

Tenacity- sounds like you got it all figured out. Just like everything else with you. You aren’t here to learn, understand or improve.

Please tell me what it is I'm supposed to have learned by now, that I'm just not comprehending/understanding and thus, not improving upon? Some of you guys say this and then when you peel the onion back.....what you guys want me to "learn/understand/comprehend" is some Disney land/Blue pill/fantasy land shyt about high quality unicorns smh.

But hey, I like the concept of the 50/50 deal and I respect it and I wish it could work.

Oh it works, I know couples who operate like this. The guy has his career, the girl has her career, and they operate like a tag team. The notion that there must be a leader and the other is the weak bytch, is completely a 19th and 20th century model that led to us having Feminism in the first damn place.

It was an oppressive model that didn't allow women to exercise their GOD GIVEN talents, gifts, and abilities. That oppressive bullshyt led to many of our issues today.

Why the fvck white men could not have just allowed their white women to do more than cook, clean, and push babies out...I have no fvcking clue! But it led to all of this bullshyt and the white woman took the black woman's stupid a.ss by the arm....and they both went onto destroy their family structures shouting "Girl Power" in the process!

You can have two strong leaders working as a team. All you have to do is create a list of tasks and give 50% - 70% to one leader, and the other 30% - 50% to the other leader. I'm the Power Forward and she's the Shooting Guard. Nobody is anybody's WEAK BYTCH, we are both strong in our own right and as a TEAM, we kick the world's a.ss

You see that's the type of chick Tenacity would settle down with. I don't like WEAK BYTCHES that can't even stand on their own two feet like pay their own rent, car note, or who stupidly lend their pvssy to TRASHY men creating kids the punk a.ss thug can't afford. I like STRONG bytches that I can "partner" with.

Your perspective might change and you might have better luck with higher quality women.

Lol, I knew this couldn't end unless we gave a shoutout to the Walt Disney fantasy bytch that Sosuave calls "the high quality woman".

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Ummmm someone answer me this question: how is she cheating on her husband or engaging in ANY type of infidelity if she doesn't even go out to get groceries? How can she even meet people? The only people she sees are her husband and kids, so all she thinks about are those two things. And when she wants to have a hobby of her own, she goes online and writes random crap like this.

LOL

 

[PantyWhisperer]

Ummmm someone answer me this question: how is she cheating on her husband or engaging in ANY type of infidelity if she doesn't even go out to get groceries? How can she even meet people? The only people she sees are her husband and kids, so all she thinks about are those two things. And when she wants to have a hobby of her own, she goes online and writes random crap like this.

LOL

I'm not saying that she is or isn't cheating on her husband, because honestly, how the fwck can we know? But there is plenty of opportunity to meet people or even reconnect with people you knew in the past. It's called Facebook. Or instagram/snapchat/twitter etc...
She may also have other things that she does where she could meet a hookup - the gym is a classic example of this.
For the record, despite the mythology, I have never, ever met a woman at a grocery store.

 

[guru1000]

The guy has his career, the girl has her career, and they operate like a tag team.

You can have two strong leaders working as a team. All you have to do is create a list of tasks and give 50% - 70% to one leader, and the other 30% - 50% to the other leader. I'm the Power Forward and she's the Shooting Guard. Nobody is anybody's WEAK BYTCH, we are both strong in our own right and as a TEAM, we kick the world's a.ss

I like STRONG bytches that I can "partner" with.

This is some weak blue-pill shlt right here.

A woman comes along for the ride to serve you. You want her to work; that's your choice. But there is no "we." There is no "team." There is no "both strong" or "equal partner."

A woman is there only to add value to YOUR life. This is the only motivation from which you should be operating. Not as a team, but from a vantage point of serving you. I almost puked reading this.

 

[The Duke]

I try to understand a persons viewpoint even if I don't agree with them, but Tenacity stated that he values a woman that can pay her own bills. And a woman that doesn't would be using him, I would assume? So his desire for a 50/50 "TEAM" relationship would be one that the woman makes enough money to pay her way so he wouldn't have to. Correct me if I'm wrong here! He would likely see this as adding value.

I imagine Tenacity comes from a background of "losers" who pop out babies from random dudes, can't pay the rent/car payments.

And "submissive" women aren't necessarily weak nor broke and unable to stand on their own feet. They are definitely much easier to deal with. But I don't think I've ever ran into a submissive female that was black! They all seem to be QUEEN BIATCHES to me! So perhaps this alters your perspective as well.

Its like Tenacity is caught in the middle between too good for one group, yet not accepted by the others.

 

[guru1000]

If ALL white, Spanish, and Asian girls stopped serving their men, then I would turn to black girls. If black girls too acted the same, I would strictly pump and dump.

Comfortability in dating a certain race of women is a weak excuse for making concessions in your will.

 

[Tenacity]

This is some weak blue-pill shlt right here.

A woman comes along for the ride to serve you. You want her to work; that's your choice. But there is no "we." There is no "team." There is no "both strong" or "equal partner."

A woman is there only to add value to YOUR life. This is the only motivation from which you should be operating. Not as a team, but from a vantage point of serving you. I almost puked reading this.

I have no idea how my 50/50, 60/40, or 70/30 team framework is "blue pill"?

But yes, it's very cute to talk about how the man is the prize and how the chick is supposed to serve him. All that is very cute and I get a lot of good feelings from reading that on my computer.

...........and then I turned my computer off and came back into the REAL WORLD.

And in the real world, there's no chick that's going to "serve me". And I don't care what "mindset" you have, as a guy you ARE NOT the prize. If you are dating chicks that are HB7 and higher for example, the woman has lines of guys trying to get with her at all times with literally NO effort.

Is there any guy here that can just walk out their door and have scores and scores of attractive women lined up the block to get with him without ANY effort (approaches, convo, etc.)? I don't think so. To build up plates you have to WORK for that shyt through approaching, convos, dates, etc.

I know that's not popular to state on here because again....many of you guys want to promote a fantasy land rather than discuss reality. You want to tell guys to have an "I'm the Prize" mentality, when most of the guys on this forum (let's just be honest) are broke, out of shape, and UGLY from a looks standpoint. That dude ain't no damn prize, I don't care how many times he beats his chest and says it.

 

[penkitten]

We live in an Era that now takes 2 people to support most households. The cost of living is not what it was in the 50s. Or the 80s. If you want to buy a house, drive nice cars and have a retirement fund, you need 2 incomes to make it all work.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

At least beta males are getting some thanks.

Pro Tip: Note that she wrote that for Fox News. Most right wing females are NOT feminists.

If you want to decrease your chances SIGNIFICANTLY sort EARLY for political beliefs. Regardless of your own beliefs, disqualify democrats or liberals immediately.

You'll find similar non-feminist articles on PJMedia. (pro family, stay at home mom, etc.)

 

[guru1000]

...........and then I turned my computer off and came back into the REAL WORLD.

And in the real world, there's no chick that's going to "serve me".

Oh really?

I had a woman come to my house last weekend and cook me a five-course meal to die for. It was our third date.

Has a woman ever cooked for you?
Has a woman ever purposefully woke up 10 minutes before you to make sure you had morning coffee to go seize the day?
Has a woman ever cleaned your house? What about your toilet(s) and tub(s)?
Has a woman ever ran errands for you or did your laundry?
Has a woman ever helped YOU make more money?

No? I don't believe this is strictly a black problem for a second. @EyeBRollin and @PrettyBoyAJ: Jump into this thread and let us know if black women provide the aforementioned services upon you.

The problem in women not happily serving you rests not on the market, not in your racial demographics, not in your location, not in your age group. The problem is YOU.

 

[Tenacity]

Oh really?

I had a woman come to my house last weekend and cook me a five-course meal to die for. It was our third date.

Has a woman ever cooked for you?
Has a woman ever purposefully woke up 10 minutes before you to make sure you had morning coffee to go seize the day?
Has a woman ever cleaned your house? What about your toilet(s) and tub(s)?
Has a woman ever ran errands for you or did your laundry?
Has a woman ever helped YOU make more money?

No? I don't believe this is strictly a black problem for a second. @EyeBRollin and @PrettyBoyAJ: Jump into this thread and let us know if black women provide the aforementioned services upon you.

The problem in women not happily serving you rests not on the market, not in your racial demographics, not in your location, not in your age group. The problem is YOU.

I've had women do "favors" for me, and it was only during the time when we were dating/fvcking and her interest level was relatively at a decent level. The "favors" came AFTER I did "favors" for her, some of the favors women have done include:

- Some have cooked for me
- Some have covered the dating tab
- Some have massaged me all over
- Some have given advice on various things
- Some have bought gifts for special occasions like birthday or holidays

But when you say "serve", I take it as I have a chick at my place doing shyt for me non-stop without expecting anything in return, or without firstly I having done stuff for her upfront. Like do you mean "serve" by I just meet a chick and she has this SERVANT attitude to just want to do a bunch of shyt for me out of the "kindness of her heart"....without me having to do anything for her?

If that's what you mean then fvck no I've never met ANY chick like that.

 

[The Duke]

Tenacity- there are still girls out there that enjoy taking care of their man like the others before have talked about. Most of my ltr's were this way. I'm not saying they acted as servants, but they definitely went above and beyond and gave more than I did. They were always sweet, highly supportive, expected little in return, other than affection. It took me a while to understand that they truly did enjoy pleasing others. These types were a little more old school, daddy's girls, & influenced by and admired their grandparents. They had their own money, good jobs, and paid their bills on time. Its going to take a certain personality to attract them. They all believed the male to be superior to the woman! I am always clear to women up front that I believe the male to be better equipped to handle the world than women, tends to filter out the ones I don't care to be with!

Believe it if you want, there will be no power struggle with these types. They won't question you. They won't tell you "no" when it comes to sechs. They are highly supportive. In return, they will want your time, affection, and to be included in most every thing you do. They will want a man that has a strong desire to lead and makes them feel secure.

To each their own, I'm just saying you might open your mind up a little to this because as myself and others have told you, they do exist.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Tenacity- there are still girls out there that enjoy taking care of their man like the others before have talked about. Most of my ltr's were this way. I'm not saying they acted as servants, but they definitely went above and beyond and gave more than I did. They were always sweet, highly supportive, expected little in return, other than affection. It took me a while to understand that they truly did enjoy pleasing others. These types were a little more old school, daddy's girls, & influenced by and admired their grandparents. They had their own money, good jobs, and paid their bills on time. Its going to take a certain personality to attract them. They all believed the male to be superior to the woman! I am always clear to women up front that I believe the male to be better equipped to handle the world than women, tends to filter out the ones I don't care to be with!

Believe it if you want, there will be no power struggle with these types. They won't question you. They won't tell you "no" when it comes to sechs. They are highly supportive. In return, they will want your time, affection, and to be included in most every thing you do. They will want a man that has a strong desire to lead and makes them feel secure.

To each their own, I'm just saying you might open your mind up a little to this because as myself and others have told you, they do exist.

Where do they "build" these types at?

 

[Tenacity]

They were always sweet, highly supportive, expected little in return, other than affection. It took me a while to understand that they truly did enjoy pleasing others. These types were a little more old school, daddy's girls, & influenced by and admired their grandparents. They had their own money, good jobs, and paid their bills on time. Its going to take a certain personality to attract them. They all believed the male to be superior to the woman!

.....there will be no power struggle with these types. They won't question you. They won't tell you "no" when it comes to sechs. They are highly supportive. In return, they will want your time, affection, and to be included in most every thing you do. They will want a man that has a strong desire to lead and makes them feel secure.

Okay and I'll ask you like I've asked other guys on here who promote this high quality unicorn....WHAT CITY/STATE/TOWN did you meet this woman at? If you are seeing scores of women like this, what CITY/STATE/TOWN is this?

When I ask that specific question.....I hear crickets....so I'm posing the question to you.

To each their own, I'm just saying you might open your mind up a little to this because as myself and others have told you, they do exist.

My mind is open. I'm not seeing this shyt. I've been dating/fvcking scores of women since 2010, I have NEVER seen any chick act the way you described. I network with guys across the damn country and they too do not see this shyt. So I'm asking YOU specifically......what city, state, town are you seeing this shyt in?

And please don't respond with some crap like taiyuu_otoko said, about how these women just will magically APPEAR once I become the super, duper, high quality male unicorn.

 

[guru1000]

Like do you mean "serve" by I just meet a chick and she has this SERVANT attitude to just want to do a bunch of shyt for me out of the "kindness of her heart"....without me having to do anything for her?

Genuine altruism does not exist in the human race. Maybe such exists in other beings outside of this planet, just not human beings. The human DNA is hardwired with “needs”: the need to eat, the need to fvck, the need to procreate, the need to feel important or loved. Notice, these are all self-serving needs; 0% rooted in altruism.

All relations are transactional. You meet her needs and she meet yours; or contrariwise. The goal is to spend time with women who meet more of your needs than you of theirs, and thus a positive transactional result (“net need benefit”).

For example, in my last LTR, I met her emotional, psychological, and sexual needs. She met my emotional, psychological, sexual, household, and business needs. The net need benefit was dinner every night; weekly household cleaning; laundry and dry-cleaning; daily errands; assistance in all my business needs including helping in securing a new client. This is a net need benefit.

The next question, presumably, is where do I find such a creature, right? The simplest answer is to entertain women with high IL; easier done with women lower on the SMV scale, and many will be highly game to such a net need benefit just to be in your company. The difficulty that we men undertake is attracting women at the same or higher SMV and still netting a positive need benefit. Hence, the repeated adage on this site to improve to augment SMV, thus opening the pool of positive net-need-benefit-receptive women.

My recommendation to you: Try not to entertain any relation—whether FB, plate, or LTR—where there is no net need benefit. Otherwise, you will feel temporal relief, followed by long-term dissatisfaction or resentment; hence, your “red-pill” rage. This would be akin to you giving her a dollar and she returning that dollar right back to you without interest! Absolutely no benefit in such a transaction.

I've been dating/fvcking scores of women since 2010, I have NEVER seen no chick act like that. I network with guys across the damn country and they too do not see this shyt. So I'm asking YOU specifically......what city, state, town are you seeing this shyt in?

I call bullshvt on this one. You have three men on this thread alone who have attested that women have acted this way toward them. The problem is YOU.

 

[The Duke]

Where do they "build" these types at?

haha.....they are typically built in the south and the midwest! But not always. I do have one now that was built in California. She comes from a family that immigrated to the USA. Her father came here with nothing, and rose to the top ranks of a prominent US corporation. Her mother played a supporting role to her father her entire life.

Its really not where these girls were "built", as it is how they were built.

Here are some "general" things to look for:
-Most were raised by families that still believe the woman is to support her man.
-They seek out strong men.
-They tend to be daddy's girls.
-They aren't trying to climb the ladder with their careers.
-They won't hold leadership positions. These types are supporters.
-They will want kids or already have kids. Their pregnancies were planned!
-They may or may not know how to cook/sew, but their grandma's/mom's will know how.
-These girls were usually protected growing up. Maybe a little naive.
-These girls are very feminine(hair, nails, makeup, etc).
-She will mention her grandparents and dad often. She will have a lot of respect for them. Might even have a pic of her grandparents on her dating profile.
-They will expect you to make the date plans. They won't try and steer you in any direction either. They usually always go with whatever you tell them.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

haha.....they are typically built in the south and the midwest! But not always. I do have one now that was built in California. She comes from a family that immigrated to the USA. Her father came here with nothing, and rose to the top ranks of a prominent US corporation. Her mother played a supporting role to her father her entire life.

Its really not where these girls were "built", as it is how they were built.

Here are some "general" things to look for:
-Most were raised by families that still believe the woman is to support her man.
-They seek out strong men.
-They tend to be daddy's girls.
-They aren't trying to climb the ladder with their careers.
-They won't hold leadership positions. These types are supporters.
-They will want kids or already have kids.
-They may or may not know how to cook/sew, but their grandma's/mom's will know how.
-These girls were usually protected growing up. Maybe a little naive.
-These girls are very feminine(hair, nails, makeup, etc).
-She will mention her grandparents and dad often. She will have a lot of respect for them. Might even have a pic of her grandparents on her dating profile.
-They will expect you to make the date plans. They won't try and steer you in any direction either. They usually always go with whatever you tell them.

This is a completely different archaeotype than the "hot girl" that sosuave chases so often, almost like a polar opposite.