Assuming that a woman would have the concept in her brain of how approaching and attracting is a skill in itself? haha...
What use is a nugget of truth when it is inside a giant pile of elephant dung?
This is the problem with you trying to wrap your head around this... You keep trying to think about it on a conscious level. You keep trying to picture how you would qualify yourself for one of the men on here by contemplating the pros and cons of having sex with him. Guess what? It doesn't happen that way.
Hence the three subsequent paragraphs that reframed her somewhat nonsensical argument into something of validity in case anyone wants to get something of use from this thread.
Thank you! Finally someone that understands where I'm coming from!I think OP is well-intentioned--just a little solipsistic and obviously promoting her own mating strategy and best interests. Even so, there's a nugget of truth to what she's saying.
A lot of guys that end up here have a sense of entitlement and are conditioned by the media/porn/movies/whatever else to feel bitter that they aren't getting the hottest women or that other guys get the hottest women with less effort. (On the other hand, plenty of other guys will just go for the first girl that falls into their lap--regardless of whether or not she measures up to any standard). Either way there's still an element of pedestalization.
Not saying to lower your standards--but be realistic about them. Now, part of what SoSuave is about is maximizing your mindsets, your lifestyle, your looks and understanding your SMV to improve your range to its utmost potential; but even so you might never phuck a 9 or a 10--and the truth is you don't really need to (you've been socially conditioned so that that's what you value and what you perceive will boost your ego). Too many guys get caught up with BPD nutcases, difficult women, *****y women, (sometimes no women at all) by focusing on the top range of what they can attract (or hypothetically attract) when most guys'll be much happier with the top range of women that they can get to submit to them entirely*--whether that looks like a long-term plate or a monogamous LTR.
By all means, bang the hottest women you can get your hands on--but don't bring her into your world (and especially don't get caught up in hers) unless she's willing to submit 100% .
*EDIT--preferably younger--women post-Wall will submit to you for all the wrong reasons
Not a sh1t test. Just an entitled little girl who thinks she should deserved the world because she has a vagina, and she wants to vent on this forum because she doesn't like her options that she doesn't have to put forth effort to have.
The fact that all these dudes felt the need to rationalize/defend their frame so vehemently and to respond in the first place--thus giving her all the attention she came here for, thus further inflating her ego. Everybody has to make their SMV work for them--women, with the lack of an overarching frame, get just as phucked over by their hypergamy in the end; and the AFC's (which a lot of the guys here still are to some extent) are every bit as delusional, solipsistic, and fragile.
You just described my ex wife. She was s stay at home mom that did nothing. Kids hungry clothes dirty...she had time for lunch with her friends, naps, meetings at church. But the house was filthy and I took care of the kids in the evening while she locked herself in the bathroom and read. I tried everything except spanking her ass to get her to change. She finally filled for divorce. She was a stay at home mom that got 750 a week for expenses. Now she is a fat whale that teaches special education for 35k a year. Hypergamy can be cruel sometimes. I'm sure she could get fu cked or married at anytime. There are guys that will do it. She is just to lazy to put out what little effort it would take to find a guy.
Well if that's what she came here for clearly she's a loser. Most women who are decent, not slvts, not mentality ill get married pretty young.
That we're still human beings? Or that men are competitive? Or that she's mentally ill and unhappy with men yet it's her that's the problem, not men. Nothing was proven other than the things I listed and that she should go to love shack if she doesn't like the solid realistic advice we give her every time she comes here. I enjoy debating it's like competition. That's all there is to it.
The point isn't about getting a 9 or a 10, its about becoming the best version of yourself that you can be. Its about taking yourself from the current level of wherever that is...a 5 or 6 or 7 and getting yourself up to a 7 or 8 or 9...most people if they are willing to invest in themselves enough can get themselves up to at least a 7. That means physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually.
Do tell....Preach to your women first. Start with the one on old that I saw that wants a woodsman with a penchant for poetry.....What do I want? A would like an average or better girl that wasn't crazy. That is a good companion. Sex has to be ok but I hold the other characteristics to be of higher value. Kinky would be icing on the cake. I have no silly expectations that I have no reasonable chance of getting. IHave I ever found a girl like this? Yes one and she was a 10 becasue she had everything I wanted and was very pretty. Long blond hair, submissive, cooked and cleaned, good companion and kinky as hell. She loved me deep and hard. I loved her too. What did I do with her? I kicked her to the curb because she wanted to get married and I was unemployed at the time. She didn't want to wait.
Again this is completely false. Time and time again posts talk about how a guy's looks matter just as much as a woman's looks do. Nobody is "entitled" to anything. The advice is to always go for what you want and if you get it great, if not, then that's OK too. You can never pre-determine what any particular woman is going to find attractive. For instance, in my case, I have had very good looking women who think I'm hot, hit on me and chase me, and average looking women that think I'm average or below. Everyone has different traits, personalities and body types they find attractive. If this wasn't the case all you would see are people that are the same looking together, and that clearly isn't the case. On both sides you will see couples that you look at and go "HUH???" because either its a really hot woman with an average or below guy or a decent looking guy with Shamu.
If I'm being honest, you are the one who fvcked up, not her.
