You Guys Need A Wakeup Call

[zekko]

If you look at history.. the most ruthless (Hilter) scum of the earth often got laid easier than the kiss-ass.

Why be either?

 

[MaddXMan]

Its true more often than its false.[/B] If you look at history.. the most ruthless (Hilter) scum of the earth often got laid easier than the kiss-ass.

In what alternate universe did this happen? Hitler was painfully shy and awkward with women. There was speculation among his peers that he was gay.

 

[TheException]

Women flock to Hernandez's defense.

Article came off as a sniveling chump crying about women finding Hernandez hott(aka nice guy complaining that women always fall in love with jerks). Dont really think this article is in the same realm of discussion as to what i was attempting to say. Its been known that women like characteristics present in bad boys/jerks/he11 even serial killers(I think article on CH).

But...

Article = Women love bad boys
My Thread = Men shouldnt dislike women/treat them like a sociopath/bad a$$hole.
PlayHerMans thread = Women dont respect me unless i treat them like sh1t.

See the difference? Im talking more about how men see women(should be positive not a negative one) not about what characteristics turns women on. Recent threads have gone WAYYY BEYOND normal "recognition of reality" pal. They are filled with negativity towards women(aka butthurt resentment). In any case, the article was actually poorly written...just had a bunch of girls saying hes hott(physically) not saying hes innocent or obsessed in love with him.

 

[zekko]

I see your bet Exception, and I raise you this.....

Women flock to Hernandez's defense.

So maybe one doesn't have to be a sociopath, just a killer.

Not the best example. There are a lot of female football fans, and Hernandez was a top athlete and star player with one of the most successful teams in the NFL. Not to mention he's famous. He's bound to have quite a few fans. Aside from which, I bet if you'd show a picture of him to most women, without mentioning the crime, they would still say he's pretty hot.

For the record though, I reiterate that I said that women were evil.

But for the love of God, don't start denying what we know to be true in what makes the tingles happen

I hope your point is not that you have to be accused of murder in order to make a vagina tingle. I find the whole "women are only turned on by sociopaths" argument to be ridiculous. How the heck have I been getting laid all these years? Because I don't recall ever acting like a sociopath, or even a "borderline" sociopath. Seems like the panties have been plenty wet regardless.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Hahaha I swear we've been debating the same topic for years.

Truly think a lot of the guys here including me have really just had sh#t experiences with women.

And the rubbish women outweigh the quality by a significant portion. But I truly believe there are women out there, that are decent in most regards albeit they are few.

Maybe it's naive optimism but one can hope.

 

[bukowski_merit]

to resentful beta jerk.

While I agree with most of what you say - I don't believe throwing around the same insults those "resentful beta jerks" throw at us (but in reverse) is a good way to lead by example.

I am trying to write off all community terms (which includes pua, men's movement, mgtow, and anti-pua movements) from my vocabulary.

The negative (beta) vs. positive (alpha) language and labeling, are used to create aliances. Which is counter-productive to having real dialog. It's the same problem with conservative/liberal.

Disagree with someone:

"Oh you're a white knight for coming to a woman's defense"
"Oh you're a misogynist for calling a woman a s!ut"
"Oh you're a beta virgin"
"Oh you're a troll" (this is the one i've been most guilty of lol)

Just look at this thread.... Clear alliances with clear language that each has in their arsenal to throw rocks at each other with.

The persuasion expert Blair Warren (when talking about how to create a true cult following) advises that you point out who the enemy is, get your audience to agree with your view, then teach them how to throw rocks at the enemy.

Everything becomes black and white. If it doesn't align with your view - you throw it out!

Reality isn't simple! We want it to be which is why we get into groups, and do battle. It's why we label things...

but these labels aren't real...

That girl being mean to you, may be the nicest girl ever to me.

That girl who said she wouldn't sleep with you on the first date because she's "not a s!ut" may have gladly gave it up to the last guy.

It doesn't really matter...



My reality is: I have fun with women. I enjoy them, and exploring each woman's body and mind.... I have fun. I LOVE women...

But at the same time, I do know about the dark side of all this...

Which is why I am mostly disattached from them emotionally.



So i guess i play both sides... And why sometimes I agree with a poster like Zarky and sometimes I agree with a poster like PlayHer...


My $.02

 

[backbreaker]

You are smart enough to know that my point is that being an @sshole yields FAR greater results than being a nice guy, and recognition of this does not make one "bitter" or "butthurt" as Exception asserts. Y

you have to first of all, 'DEFINE" results.

if by results you mean having sex with women and not paying for it, probably.

If by results you mean finding normal well adjusted women who aren't BPD and having mutually benefiting relationships with them, yes.

when i first came to this site, i was clueless. after a while i went the way of the.. i didn't go all the way jerk but i was very uncaring towards women when i was around 21-22. i did things just because I could. i would do **** like show up to a girls job with another girl knowing she would see me, beucase i could. go out to eat with a chick at a girl i am seeing's best friend's job knowing as soon as i walked through the door she was going to get on the phone and call the friend and tell her what i was doing. the girl amber i ended up seriously dating i made her jump through so many hoops to date me that any normal woman would have left.

as i got older, dealt with a lot of women and had a lot of sex, my attitude changed. i wasn't a beta or a AFC or any of those terms but i wasn't unnecessarily careless either. and i didn't' have as much sex. i didn't have as many dates. but the women that i started attracting were higher quality and they lasted longer. they weren't perfect but there weren't around just for some ego driven reason to get gratification or anything like that they actually liked who i was.

i can sympthaize with the newbie just coming here who sees all these hot women and just wants to poke them lol because i've been there. women in those sundresses and you just want some play. you want to sleep over a chicks house you want to go on a date and have her be all over you. you want random phone calls to go chill from chicks. and you can get all that, but after you get that you realize that you only have a finite amount of time and that by being a respectful DJ, you can easily weed out the low quality women.

 

[TheException]

While I agree with most of what you say - I don't believe throwing around the same insults those "resentful beta jerks" throw at us (but in reverse) is a good way to lead by example.

You could have included the context. I was not "insulting", i was describing a path. Most "jerks" do come from a former "nice guy" lifestyle that society has ingrained in them.

I am trying to write off all community terms

I agree but i use terms for "time savers" since most people here recognize terms like beta/alpha/etc.

Clear alliances with clear language that each has in their arsenal to throw rocks at each other with

Truth^

However im not trying to throw rocks, although it may seem like that if you disagree with the thread. The language comes from mostly people not "fully understanding" terms and ill get to that below with Dangers response. I use certain terms for expediency while others misinterpret the terms as something else entirely. In the big picture though, its a very minute misunderstanding.

 

[TheException]

Your original post was mainly bashing men and accusing them of hating women and calling them evil (which I have not seen, but please, share more if you see it).

Re-read it. It is not, as that would serve as a waste of time. Im am not here to bash, I am here to help. I wanted to draw a clear distinction between certain members...that is all. I cant help it if they wish to defend themselves nor what i condemn them for doing so. The title is misleading...but the last few paragraphs clearly indicate the purpose of the post...women are explainable and every unfavorable action towards a guy should not be reacted towards with hostility. It does no good.

You then shame them by accusing them of being unable to get women.

Never said PlayHerMan or any other opposing views cannot get laid. "Shame" is a term mainly used to describe women bashing men's sexuality and beta chumps white knighting in an attempt to gain sympathy for/from women and hopefully(lol) get laid. Im not attempting to gain any sort of sympathy towards women...they are what they are, and that is it. No more, no less. I dont want people to "feel bad" for them. Just be aware that their actions are not based on "logic" but emotions and their imperative. Its tough for most men to see since we ARE logical creatures.

You never say anything about not being an @sshole.

Confusing, but if i understand correctly...thats right.

You DO cite Playhers thread as your prime example.

I do. Only because it was the most recent thread i read of its sort. Its could have been anyone really, i wasnt head hunting. Ive just seen too much poor explanation and negative reactions towards women....we should react with indifference. Dont beg them, pedestalize them, worship them...but dont hate them, resent them, think you need to be a complete d1ck to get them.

I respond with an example showing how women respond to @ssholes (this is well documented for killers as well).
Another fine link just today showing how women respond to "@ssholes".

First link was not good, second one is. I dont disagree that certain traits in a$$holes are attractive. In fact, i have many traits ingrained in me that would be considered a$$hole. Im fine with that. I disagree with the bashing and i simply hypothesized it was built up frustration and really is not based in logic....if you really think the majority of women would bang now accused murderer Aaron Hernandez over Brad Pitt...id have to strongly disagree.

you respond with disdain and shaming. Even your reply to me is snarky.

Again, its your perception of my response. I simply attempt to state what I believe to be truth. Some agree, some disagree....as much to be expected. If you feel its "too snarky"...i suppose thats on you.

Don't call people "butthurt" for recognizing the reality of what attracts women. Either that or find a better example of what you mean by "negativity towards women".

Writing "butthurt" sure beats writing out "Pent up frustration that now is seriously clouding your ability to look at the situation from a logical standpoint" everytime. In short...a bad experience leaves bad feelings. Have enough from some sh1tty women..and you begin to view a lot of them that way.

Point being, anyone with even a minor amount of experience with girls can attest that jerk > nice any day of the week

Truth^ but....
Alpha/Don Juan > Jerk> Nice Guy

 

[SirFratserlot]

People are only a product of there environment. They are bitter because women are bitter to them.

 

[Big Nuts]

There wouldn't be PUAs, MRAs, SoSuave, the manosphere and a huge lobby in North America to fix the family courts had women's behavior been respectable and above table.

Relatively speaking, the "men's movement" is in its infancy.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.....Newton's 3rd law.

Of course some men are bitter/frustrated. Of course NAWALT.....but something has clearly changed and men are reacting to that change. Many of the young guys simply do not have enough experience with women to know wait awaits them.

I have been active in the MRM for 6 years now....the change is slow, but significant. Where it goes I don't know, but I will leave the word misogyny for the Ted Bundys...not the average guy out there who suddenly swallows the Red Pill and discovers, by and large, most women are full of sh!t and he has been deceived both culturally and socially.

The enemy of men isn't really women, it's white knights and manginas.

Do not trust men who use the word misogyny.

 

[Wolfgang D]

The biggest change i've seen in how women react to me is when I realized for my age I actually am a great catch.. Got my own business, been through a lot and got the experience to show for it, confident, decent body and that women should be working to get me.

Playa99's reasonable attitude follows the pattern. I have yet to see a successful man use the "women are Evil" card. The successful man knows there are different kinds of women out there, as Playa99 talks about in his post.

There is really no point in arguing in this thread, because it's like debating the existence of god with an evangelical christian: for them, god HAS to exist - otherwise, they lose their identity.

Likewise here, women HAVE to be evil - otherwise, why am I single and in my 50s?

Same as the capitalists must be conspiring, otherwise, why would a guy be in a dead-end job? It couldn't be because he was too lazy to study when he was in school. Now he has to blame someone else for his failure, and he blames the people who he used to mock for making an effort. Typical losers.

In what alternate universe did this happen? Hitler was painfully shy and awkward with women. There was speculation among his peers that he was gay.

Actually he was always out socializing in the late 1920s/early 1930s and known as a ladies' man. But people like to throw around stuff like that, and leftists never have to show any sources for what they say. Especially not when it comes to something they say about Hitler, of course. In this I recognize the same kind of sloppiness that I see in feminist accusations against men, a disregard for facts that causes a lot of strife. The hostility against women in general that we see among many in this forum comes from that carelessness with facts in no small regard. That is why you should be careful with facts and check your accusations no matter who you are talking about or what the subject is. Sloppiness will just lead to more sloppiness.

OP you make good points.

Fact of the matter is, some men suck, and some women suck as well. And despite what some posters say, men can be just as selfish and as self-serving as some women can be.

And while Ive been through some really frustrating experiences with women, I still love women. Unlike many guys, I dont waste my time fixating on the crappy women. Id rather use my energy finding the good and fun women that exist.

What you gotta realize OP, is that many guys on this forum, and many guys who make it to these kind of forums in general, are dudes who have a grudge against women for whatever reason. Some are bitter about lack of success in dating or relationships, or they got burned by a really bad woman. Its somewhat understandable how they come to their views, but it wont help them become better with women, which is why most are here.

Ill say this; the men I have met in my life who have truly been successful with women and have had happy relationship with them, are guys who truly like and love women. These are guys who really appreciate how women complement men, and how men complement women.

This is true. Women and men are different in fundamental ways, but there are both good and bad women just like there are good and bad men - I don't know why some would be so upset by that fact. Typically the ones who are most hostile to women and say they are all evil, are the ones who never get any sex. It would be interesting to see pictures of them and see what they are like in real life. I bet their social lives leave a lot to be desired.

The ones I have seen act like this in real life are all weirdos who most people stay away from. On the internet they get a second chance venting, as here they aren't silenced by being excluded from the social circles.

How fitting that your post would be immediately followed by this illustration:

Jaylan: Have you been a$$ raped in court? Robbed of your children? Just because some chick rejected you at the movies doesn't quite compare to losing everything you dreamed of because we have feminist cvunts and manginas making excuses for brutal female behavior.

Male frustrations sometimes manifest themselves by sounding like "misogyny". Frustration does not mean men hate women. I have been around long enough to never trust men who use that word to describe otherwise frustrated men. They are not to be trusted....as men. The mangina/white knight is to be shamed and humiliated.

There you go, Big Nuts, showing what Jaylan was talking about. No one here likes the laws that give women half of a man's paycheck in a divorce, and give her custody of the children by default. But you take that and use it as proof that Jaylan is wrong and that the negative blanket statement about evil women is right.

You act just like the feminists, who take rape as proof that "men are evil". And anyone who doesn't agree must approve of rape, right?

"Male frustrations sometimes manifest themselves by sounding like "misogyny". Frustration does not mean men hate women. I have been around long enough to never trust men who use that word to describe otherwise frustrated men. They are not to be trusted....as men. Dun dunnn The mangina/white knight is to be shamed and humiliated."

So you say that using the word frustration is wrong. Those who use it are "not to be trusted". But accusing someone of being a "mangina" Or a "white knight" (you don't know what that means) is okay. Frustration, which is a real thing, is but a rhetorical trick according to you - but the slurs you use instead of arguments are not? Right.

 

[zekko]

My point is that being an @sshole yields FAR greater results than being a nice guy

I assume by "nice guy", you mean "wimp", in which case I have no problem with your statement. But as I said before, why be either? Why be an @sshole OR a wimp? If you think the @sshole has an advantage over the "socially calibrated well rounded cool guy", then I disagree with you.

Again, I think most women would have found Pro Bowl tight end Aaron Hernandez, who keeps himself in elite athletic condition, to be pretty hot before any of this murder business happened. I don't think he needed the "bad boy" tag to get dates, do you?

you have to first of all, 'DEFINE" results.

if by results you mean having sex with women and not paying for it, probably.

If by results you mean finding normal well adjusted women who aren't BPD and having mutually benefiting relationships with them, yes.

Right, @sshole game attracts a certain type of woman that I am, frankly, not interested in.

Your turning this into an extremist argument that ONLY sociopaths get laid doesn't take away from this basic fact.

I did not turn this into an extremist argument. A lot of this is a response to PlayHer Man's statement:

"You have to be a BORDERLINE sociopath to get RESPECT from women".

That IS saying ONLY borderline sociopaths will get respect from women.
I completely disagree with that statement.
Besides which, sociopath, borderline sociopath, either one is a bad thing to be. IMO, of course.
Yet for some reason, PUAs hold sociopaths up as their grand role model of who they want to be. Which is a terrible idea. Again, IMO.

 

[TheException]

I completely disagree that recognizing the advantages of @ssholery makes one a bitter person who gets LJBF'd all of the time.

Recognition of misandry DOES NOT EQUATE to misogyny or hating women.

Your defense of yourself is clearly affecting your ability to draw conclusions. Read the above bold...those are your statements. For the 5th time im going to re iterate to you that i DONT ADVOCATE "nice guy" lifestyle/game. Matter of fact go through my replies to people and highlight when ive ever advocated for supplication to women. Im beginning to not take your replies serious because you dont address points, its like you dont even read what i say. You just quote it....then go off on a tangent.

Now I know at this point you will say that you are only talking about the "negative" posts regarding women. But you reference Playher's thread as an example, so until you can cite another more appropriate example, I am going to keep on that particular one

But instead of making generic comments, point them out in the specific threads so the details can be debated.

Now i was really not going to do this, because i seen it as a huge waste of time, because clearly half the people that replied to this thread, know that they exist, the other half are the ones that agree with/post them, and only danger is confused as to where i got the idea that negative rhetoric is being given as "advice". So danger, for your sake ill compile some below.

Now I'm 28 and treat women like they are replaceable toys (which they are).
You have to treat them all like wh0res
I agree with being a dyck and treating all women like wh0res until they prove otherwise
Women are opportunistic sheep
Having less testosterone than men makes them more risk averse and chicken-sh!t in general.
Any man concerned about "pleasing" a woman sexually is already in full blown beta faggot territory. Sex is for the man.
There is no reason for a man to EVER worry about being "good in bed". The sex is for YOU not her.
A man in love is a slave. Completely ruled by his woman.
The hotter the girl, the more of a c*nt she usually is
Most modern women are low quality c*m-dumpsters
But that vast majority of modern women are only good for sex and nothing more.
If a lot of modern women didn't have such crappy personalities and values..
I just see women as toys
All was well when men slapped women around and kept them in the kitchen making grilled cheese sandwiches.
Did they return the favor? NOPE. They became stuck up materialistic c*nts / prostitutes.
women know they are out to destroy men...yet men still blindly want to stick their pee pees into them

Dont necessarily disagree with 100% of everything above....but if you cannot detect the resentment against women from those posts.....well then i guess we have nothing further to discuss. Guys come here not just for advice...but also for the truth. They come not for what they WANT to hear, but what they NEED to hear. Even if a poster states the truth....by having negative resentment towards women, it diminishes that post. Women should be treated with indifference....not negativity.

 

[Big Nuts]

Playa99's reasonable attitude follows the pattern. I have yet to see a successful man use the "women are Evil" card. The successful man knows there are different kinds of women out there, as Playa99 talks about in his post.


Same as the capitalists must be conspiring, otherwise, why would a guy be in a dead-end job? It couldn't be because he was too lazy to study when he was in school. Now he has to blame someone else for his failure, and he blames the people who he used to mock for making an effort. Typical losers.


Actually he was always out socializing in the late 1920s/early 1930s and known as a ladies' man. But people like to throw around stuff like that, and leftists never have to show any sources for what they say. Especially not when it comes to something they say about Hitler, of course. In this I recognize the same kind of sloppiness that I see in feminist accusations against men, a disregard for facts that causes a lot of strife. The hostility against women in general that we see among many in this forum comes from that carelessness with facts in no small regard. That is why you should be careful with facts and check your accusations no matter who you are talking about or what the subject is. Sloppiness will just lead to more sloppiness.



This is true. Women and men are different in fundamental ways, but there are both good and bad women just like there are good and bad men - I don't know why some would be so upset by that fact. Typically the ones who are most hostile to women and say they are all evil, are the ones who never get any sex. It would be interesting to see pictures of them and see what they are like in real life. I bet their social lives leave a lot to be desired.

The ones I have seen act like this in real life are all weirdos who most people stay away from. On the internet they get a second chance venting, as here they aren't silenced by being excluded from the social circles.

How fitting that your post would be immediately followed by this illustration:


There you go, Big Nuts, showing what Jaylan was talking about. No one here likes the laws that give women half of a man's paycheck in a divorce, and give her custody of the children by default. But you take that and use it as proof that Jaylan is wrong and that the negative blanket statement about evil women is right.

You act just like the feminists, who take rape as proof that "men are evil". And anyone who doesn't agree must approve of rape, right?

"Male frustrations sometimes manifest themselves by sounding like "misogyny". Frustration does not mean men hate women. I have been around long enough to never trust men who use that word to describe otherwise frustrated men. They are not to be trusted....as men. Dun dunnn The mangina/white knight is to be shamed and humiliated."

So you say that using the word frustration is wrong. Those who use it are "not to be trusted". But accusing someone of being a "mangina" Or a "white knight" (you don't know what that means) is okay. Frustration, which is a real thing, is but a rhetorical trick according to you - but the slurs you use instead of arguments are not? Right.

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Re-read my post, men who use the word misogyny are not to be trusted. They are almost always white knights or manginas. Dude, it is almost laughable to suggest I don't know what those terms mean.

I love women, I am north of 150. I hate manginas and white knights, they are simply useful idiots for fembots and simply magnify or augment brutal female behavior.

Tripping over yourself to apologize for men, is the sign of weak men. We have laws to take care of bad men, the prisons are filled with them....

Classy female behavior is inversely proportional to the number of white knights and manginas supplicating to and pedestalizing said behavior.

Basic equation.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I completely disagree that recognizing the advantages of @ssholery makes one a bitter person who gets LJBF'd all of the time.

Recognition of misandry DOES NOT EQUATE to misogyny or hating women.

Your defense of yourself is clearly affecting your ability to draw conclusions. Read the above bold...those are your statements. For the 5th time im going to re iterate to you that i DONT ADVOCATE "nice guy" lifestyle/game. Matter of fact go through my replies to people and highlight when ive ever advocated for supplication to women. Im beginning to not take your replies serious because you dont address points, its like you dont even read what i say. You just quote it....then go off on a tangent.

Now I know at this point you will say that you are only talking about the "negative" posts regarding women. But you reference Playher's thread as an example, so until you can cite another more appropriate example, I am going to keep on that particular one

But instead of making generic comments, point them out in the specific threads so the details can be debated.

Now i was really not going to do this, because i seen it as a huge waste of time, because clearly half the people that replied to this thread, know that they exist, the other half are the ones that agree with/post them, and only danger is confused as to where i got the idea that negative rhetoric is being given as "advice". So danger, for your sake ill compile some below.

Now I'm 28 and treat women like they are replaceable toys (which they are).
You have to treat them all like wh0res
I agree with being a dyck and treating all women like wh0res until they prove otherwise
Women are opportunistic sheep
Having less testosterone than men makes them more risk averse and chicken-sh!t in general.
Any man concerned about "pleasing" a woman sexually is already in full blown beta faggot territory. Sex is for the man.
There is no reason for a man to EVER worry about being "good in bed". The sex is for YOU not her.
A man in love is a slave. Completely ruled by his woman.
The hotter the girl, the more of a c*nt she usually is
Most modern women are low quality c*m-dumpsters
But that vast majority of modern women are only good for sex and nothing more.
If a lot of modern women didn't have such crappy personalities and values..
I just see women as toys
All was well when men slapped women around and kept them in the kitchen making grilled cheese sandwiches.
Did they return the favor? NOPE. They became stuck up materialistic c*nts / prostitutes.
women know they are out to destroy men...yet men still blindly want to stick their pee pees into them

Dont necessarily disagree with 100% of everything above....but if you cannot detect the resentment against women from those posts.....well then i guess we have nothing further to discuss. Guys come here not just for advice...but also for the truth. They come not for what they WANT to hear, but what they NEED to hear. Even if a poster states the truth....by having negative resentment towards women, it diminishes that post. Women should be treated with indifference....not negativity.

@TheException and some others on this thread:

Why are you such big white knights? If some men on this site want to treat women badly.. why does that bother you more than all the men on this site who have been treated badly by women?

Why do you defend women who treat men like crap and blame the man? You say its not the woman's fault.. its "biology". Your exact words.

Yet.. you blame and shame the men.

WHY? Why such a big white knight faggot? What's in it for you to swing in on a chandelier and protect the precious females?

Why bro?

Why is it so important for all the "advice" on this site to be warm and fuzzy like a young vagina? :crackup: :crackup:

 

[TheException]

If some men on this site want to treat women badly.. why does that bother you more than all the men on this site who have been treated badly by women?

Well there you have it...

And frankly im not bothered by either. Im bothered when people who resent women "give advice" on how to be successful with woman. You want to treat a woman like sh1t? Go for it...but dont tell a guy whose new to being unplugged that if he treats every woman like a piece of sh1t that hes gonna get laid like a rockstar. If anything this thread has clearly drawn a line between two opposing schools of thought. One views woman as potential positives while the other views woman as "temporary toys" and negatives. By all means feel free to keep making threads and comment...but we have established where you guys are coming from. Your opinions should be seen through that lens and the other members and new members will be the ultimate judge of your opinion's worth.

Theres a better path.

Alpha(Don Juan) > Jerks(Bad a$$holes) > Nice guys(White knights)

 

[zekko]

Zekko,

Again I re-iterate, to the NICE GUY, acting anything but nice IS sociopathic.

Not responding to a text question, is sociopathic to a nice guy.
Not complimenting women, is sociopathic to a nice guy.
Saying anything even remotely insulting to a woman, is sociopathic to a nice guy.
Expressing sexuality is sociopathic to a nice guy.

Sociopathy is a personality disorder. I don't really care what a "nice guy" thinks is what. Especially when you define nice guy as a "supplicating wimp chump".

Experessing sexuality is sociopathic to a nice guy? Who cares?
What we should aspire to be is MEN, masculine men. Not "nice guys", wimps, jerks, @ssholes, or douchebags. MEN! Real men like your great grandfather. Do you think a real man thinks expressing sexuality is sociopathic? I don't care what some wimp thinks, anymore than I care what some sociopathic thinks.

 

[SgtSplacker]

So it's ok for women to indulge these basic biological urges to mate with the best male like as if she doesn't have a brain to just pick a dude she likes and stick with him. But were wrong for just venting our frustrations on a forum (since were all too scared to tell them this stuff in person).

You've been brainwashed buddy...

 

[Mr_Stinky]

So ive been meaning to touch on this topic for sometime now and finally....after seeing the thread "Sociopath to get respect from women"(PlayHerMan) ive become disgusted enough to get the motivation to write this...

Im sick of members making women "the enemy". They make egregious statements about women and how "evil" they are or how they are all s1uts/wh0res. Not only is this pathetic(and you chumps would never say it to a woman's face yet you feel secure behind your computer screen)...but also incorrect.

Essentially what these certain members are doing is taking their frustration with women and turning it into a negative and nasty barrage of attacks. Most likely from suffering the "nice guy spell" and being LJBF all over the place. Never gaining much success....so he changes. But he begins to resent women for his failures instead of own those failures himself. He thinks hes progressing....but instead hes really just changing into another type of chump(bad a$$hole). This is not the goal NOR SHOULD IT BE for any guy. We are here to better ourselves and become a DJ/Alpha....not come here to bash(cry/whine/b1tch/complain/make excuses) women.

Women are not evil and every(most) action can be explained from a biological/evolutionary reasoning. You have to understand women are HYPERGAMOUS. Meaning....one egg = one baby. They have to find THE BEST(most alpha) male to mate with. Soooo when you date a girl and you act like a chump....she leaves you/cheats on you for another guy. If you were a goddamn bada$$/DJ/Alpha.....she would NOT CHEAT/LEAVE. The focus needs to be on us and controlling our demons(brought on by social conditioning).

Im sure we will still have our "regular bashers" that will comment on topics and really....this post is not for them. They are done and most likely will read this and rationalize it for themselves to "justify themselves"....they are lost. This is for the average reader/contributor and is a dose of truth serum. I dont hate women...in fact i love them. Every guy should....they make great company on our way to dominating life. Understand the following formula and you will truly....and i mean TRULY be ahead of most men.

No/Gay/Beta/Chumpy Masculinity < Bada$$hole/TRUE Jerk/ NEGATIVE MASCULINITY < Alpha/DJ/POSITIVE Masculinity.

Ever since I started treated women as equal and recognizing their faults (ex: bad behavior, slut-tee-ness, shi*ty attitudes, entitlement, etc.) I have scored more lays and have been better with women because I call them on their sh*t and upped my self-respect.

U mad brah?