you can bash me all you want

[englishman]

Originally posted by tseluca
but lets remember the reason each and everyone of you is here is to pick me up. Maybe not me personally, but women.

You come on here and bash us, talk bad about us, say we don't know what we want,

But you spend an awful lot of time and effort trying to figure out how to pick us up.

I mean really think about it. Look at the number of posts and the number of members her. This whole site. Dedicated to picking up a woman like me who has no idea what she wants.

Funny if you ask me

Yes you have no idea what you want, but you have what we want! (p*ssy) kind of like opec has the oil that the automobile industry needs, so why put the price up? instead drop the price (ie your pants!) and give us a few extra travel miles! oh and ill take a couple of choclate bars and an oil change!
hopr that makes sense...:cheer:

 

[DJ4Real]

"Dont need to come back to earth This Pvssy and 2 boobs make men do crazy things (like start this board)"

"Men desire wealth money fame and fortune all to achive what is between my legs"

You can't be serious?

Then again, you probably are being serious. Such flavorless ****iness. First of all, men who try to become famous and rich just to get in between any womans legs is a damn fool, ok.

And what makes what you said funny is that you seem to take pride in attracting these foolish men!....it's shameful.

You're being ****y about the wrong thing.

Tell me something.....exactly, why did you make this post?.....is it to make al ofl the men on here feel smaller than you?...If so, you've failed. Now, I'm not going to bash you because you've bashed yourself enough for me with that post alone....I'm not here to say that you aren't a nice looking girl or whatever....but obviously, you take some serious pride in attracting men who act like a "womans pet" just to get some....but anyways, that's you.

Good Luck with your life

 

[djbr]

I love quoting

Originally posted by Pook
If sex was money, then American women could be said to be inflated and headed for a correction. To single girls (I know) who, when talking, will mention they are tired of being single, I tell them to emulate foreign women in personality and feminity (if she did this, she could get any man in America). But she does not have enough sense to do this or even consider it. All she does to 'get a man' is to 'work out' and be 'pretty'. When they base all their efforts on that (and instead of say character), they become expendible since every girl has the same body parts.

Hehe, I always get a kick when women say they want relationship. No, they want security. They want everything easy and someone is going to pay, the man. Oh but they should anyway, as all they want is sex that only HER can provide.

Oh my god, I swear that it's better to be a lonely bastard than trapped into a fvcked up relationship. Been there, done that.

Do you think you're so special because men want your vagina? If you have what every other women in the world can provide, what do you think makes you so valuable? Yea, you may close your legs and say no no but the next one will get with the program. So what? The same holds true for men as well. Some women get a big advantage of this. Some guys doesn't get manipulated by sex, she jumps on the next one. There's always one who will do what she wants.

If you ask me I would say that men are far more prone to this weakness than women, for numerous reasons. But then again, what is your point? We have a forum for discussing getting women. Duh. The first thing we learn here is that women are not so special like they wish they were. So you think you're important because you have been rejecting men and making them insecure? Newsflash, they'll get over it and go for other women. Someday he will find one who will get with his program, be it easy sex, LTR, whatever. And you'll keep rejecting many people and thinking you're the shyt because of it, but someday you'll realize that it doesn't change nothing for you.

I think men are women haters, becuase utimatly we hold the cards when it comes to sex, We decide when and if you get it (excluding rape) and that makes most men insecure so they bash women.

I am willing to know why sex is that big deal. I think it's because when we don't care about it, women lose ALL THE POWER they have.

 

[Reborn Don Juan]

This thread is a prime example of women (supposing she really is a woman as opposed to some fat troll munching bread crumbs with one hand, beating off with the other and typing with his nose) proving yet again just how well the DJ Bible nails them.

 

[golfguy]

Originally posted by Desdinova
Women use their sexual power as a bribe to men. They use the bribe of sex to get men to buy drinks, give them money, do them favors, etc.

However, when a man doesn't let the woman have the "power of the pu55y", he uses his sexual power only for sex.

When a relationship comes along, the act of sex shouldn't be viewed as a bribe from neither side, but an act of showing deep affection. Unfortunately, very few men and women get to this stage.

AMEN!!! That is one of the best statements I've read so far on this spite on and in theory, this is how it should be. I personally think this is the basis of a SUCCESSFUL relationship, and why most relatioship fail.

tseluca,

I think you're spot on in a fewcases. I think a lot of guys on this site are women haters, and are just asshats in general, but I also think you're pretty off base in a lot of things too. I think you're a man hater, and it's people like you why a lot of guys on this site are so bitter.

The comment about being able to pick up 10/10 guys in a bar and gives me the impression that just because you have a vagina you think you own everything. This comment just makes you seem stupid. I don't care how good looking you are, I'd want to get to know you before I were to leave with you. And getting to know you involves more than just the course of a night.

See...In that case you might be 9/10 in the pickups if you were lucky (there are others who won't sleep with you), and it makes me thankful tht I have respect for myself and the women i associate with. See, I'm in the minority on this board who tries very very hard to save themselve for a commited relationship. I don't even try to cover that up. I guess that makes me a loser then?? It's women like you that will make those other 9/10 guys wake up with a burning sensation and a rash on their ****.

I also thing that there are a lot of guys out there who are decent people and not like the one's you describe. There are many guys on this site who are trying to learn to become better socially arouns women (and people in general), so you should respect that, as with everyone else.

"Guys compete physically in sports to establish their dominance"
Here's another retarded statement of yours. Did it ever occur to you that guys (and girls) participate in sports because they enjoy it. And might work out and get stronger physically so they can 1. compete at a higher level 2. Not get abslutely ****ing killed when they hit.

You know, I'm done writing. I think you're a bit of a headcase, but I don't think you're a bad person, just immature and naieve. I also think that if you were smart enough to write a constructive post in this site without the intent to offend people and make all hell break lose it would help the site, and maybe cause people to respect your opinions more ad have an intelligent dabate over things.

 

[DJ_in_making]

tseluca. You come here acting like your G-d's special gift. Shut your uppity ass up and listen....

You ever consider men wanna just make money for themselves? Or wanna look good for themselves?
What if I said women put on make-up for men to find them attractive?
Or women breathe oxygen so they could stay alive for men.
So get off of your power trip! I doubt you're one of the "women" that have guys at her knees. And if so you wouldn't be wasting your precious time on a MALE dating site.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

What I dont get is why the Vesta drives don't work as well, because even though I installed the main power settings from the KKG (KG-2) units, I still didn't get any response.

2 years ago I arranged the units into setting 5, did that stuff up my drives?

Also dunno if this altered the drive settings, but several MSCHTs crashed last year.

Could be the KKGs did wrong calcs and "cleaned" the Vesta software?

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by tseluca
So pretty much, according to your argument, you are telling me that if I want advice on how to attract men, I should ask other women, because afterall men would be terrible to ask because they have never done it.

Yes, you should focus on attracting men. Other men don't know how to attract men so the best advice you can get will come from other women.

See how sill that sounds? Women do know what they want, there is this huge preconcived notion that women have no clue what they want.

Please read the articles on this site about the "Nice Guys" the mistake that these guys make is listening to "what women want".

You see there is far too much social marketing today that makes men confused about women. There are far to many false messages that promote what women say they want. The problem is that when you actually listen to these comments you only end up lowering yourself to an emotional tampon. Women then use you as a tool and give their attention to the "jerk".

On this site we tell everyone to improve their life and accomplish their goals. When you do that women will natural come to you because they will want to be a part of it.

But most men want meaningless sex, and most women want a meaningful relationship. Men will use love to get sex, and women eill use sex to get love.

Is this just femanazi slander or do you actually have any facts to support this statement?

I think men are women haters, becuase utimatly we hold the cards when it comes to sex, We decide when and if you get it (excluding rape) and that makes most men insecure so they bash women.

Women who use sex as a weapon are of no use to men like me. Such women are to be disgarded for more mature and respectfull females. I think that is the message of this forum. "NEXT" On the other hand we don't hate women here we love them. if we want to get you in bed we know exactly how to do it.

Lets be honest 95% of male insecurity comes from sex. \
Not being able to attract women
Infatuation with Penis Size
Infatuation about how long you last ect ect.
So when men get put in a comprimising situation when it comes to sex, they get all defensive.

95% of male insecurity comes from the fact that our socieity fails to teach men how to be men. It is infact feminizing. Very few men know and understand what it means to be a man.

True confidence does not come from sex. It does not come from a conquest of women. Men who use sex to boost their ego are in fact losers. Sex is like crack. It only satisfies for so long. Its effects are transient.

For a man true confidence comes from his faith and convictions. Faith leads to strength. Strength leads to power. His convictions help him keep power. Sex is what women naturaly give you when you have power.

You see for a man to be truely confident he must be at one with himself.

 

[00Kevin]

Your argument regarding the nature of a mans confidence is in fact circular and a paradox.

1. Men only want sex
2. Women hold the key of sex.
3. 95% of a mans confidence comes from acquiring sex.
4. In order to get sex a man must do what women tell him.
5. A man that does what a woman tells him has no confidence in himself.
6. Women don't like a man without confidence.

Your argument is flawed because #1, #2, and #3 are totally wrong. Your argument is in fact the root cause of AFCism. When men believe this they get caught in your little paradox from which you attain your whoring pleasures.

Women also suffer because they only end up with #1.

What you are doing to the genders is a crime.

Why would any man believe that a woman would know anything about the nature of a mans confidence? Men like us (the mature DJs on here) do not fall for your pack of lies. Your little pu-ssy is infact powerless because our confidence comes from our faith and our convictions not our pleasures. We strive to be men not feminized emotional tampons or jerks (that only want sex) for your whoring pleasure.

With that I totally rebuke you.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Kevin, you're awesome. =D


Tel, how many women have you dated?

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by ThunderMaverick
Kevin, you're awesome. =D


Tel, how many women have you dated?

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I don't need to qualify myself I'm far to focused on my goals and a few select women with traditional values.

I would also like to say that the traditional woman "Does know what she wants" For it is only a special kind of woman that isn't persuaded by the damaging feminsing north american culture. These are the kinds of women you can love for LTRs.

The OP is just one of a bunch of bad apples. Women like her have priced themselves out of the market and are encouraging others to do the same. What they don't realize is that the very men they want subconsciously are now going after higher quality traditional women in our over priced North American market.

No need to worry, I think women are starting to realize (at least the feminizing ones) that we don't believe a word they are saying anymore. They are starting to get worried. Well too bad we have had enough of their lies. The reason this girl has posted here is because she is insecure with men who are focused on their own goals and do not subjugate themselves to their whim. She will most likely go off and dismiss this forum and claim that it is just full of a bunch of immature boys. The truth is however is that it is a training ground. Most of the immature guys or AFCS on here will grow up and learn how to be the men they should be and their lives will be very successful.

It is a myth that men don't have women figured out. The AFC is confused and so is the jerk. But the real men of our society are not. We know exactly what to look for in a good woman and exactly how to get it.

 

[white_hype]

the fact that this thread can stir up so much trouble in these forums truly shows where most of the posters are at in life and in seduction. Fvcking pathetic

 

[Distant Light]

Came across this topic pretty entertaining. (by the way i sent you the pic, didn't really know reason for i've been called attractive and all but anyway) i will reply to everything that i would like to comment on

Originally posted by tseluca
but lets remember the reason each and everyone of you is here is to pick me up. Maybe not me personally, but women.

You come on here and bash us, talk bad about us, say we don't know what we want,

But you spend an awful lot of time and effort trying to figure out how to pick us up.

I mean really think about it. Look at the number of posts and the number of members her. This whole site. Dedicated to picking up a woman like me who has no idea what she wants.

Funny if you ask me

Bashing on girls is seriously AFC. Anyone who really thinks like this (I know some of yall do) are afc. Women are motivated on emotions, I find girls that i've been approach more easier to get to the next level when she is emotionally connected than when she is horny.

Originally posted by tseluca
Dont need to come back to earth This Pvssy and 2 boobs make men do crazy things (like start this board)

Men desire wealth money fame and fortune all to achive what is between my legs

Once again AFC business, AFC's really make me sick now. I try to always tell AFCs what they are doing that makes them AFC. AFCs buy loads of sh!t for there girls and waiting in the car whiel she gets her hair done. AFCs shouldn't be doing such things, so many damn girls in the world who really should be getting hung over one girl. I've had convo's with male friends about sh!t like how long you would wait for sex. I was hearing answers like 6 months and year and a half, and when they hear i said if i haven't fuvked her in 1 or 2 weeks then she basically deleted from my cellphone and is unknown in my life.
Most people just don't want to believe sh!t. Buying sh!t for women will make it easier for you to get pusvy, pure BS.

Most people i know desire money for there own use. Ain't no way i wasting money on no girl. You set that frame and I know for sure she isn't going to be asking you for money to get her hair done. Might end up being her buying sh!t for you.

Fame/Fortune - Don't know about other men but for me hell no. If i was ever famous i'm not telling the "press" or groupies about my gf(s). She isn't even getting in no spot light, she never helpped me with whateva i did she can sit on the sideline and cheer me on.

Originally posted by tseluca
Guys spend endless hours in the gym trying to look good enough to get women

Guys spend endless hours on the web trying to learn tricks to pick up women

Guys spend valuable time working overtime to try and get money to pick up women

What do they do when they get that money. Spend it on a woman or on things to try and impress one

You men need to come back to earth

Like i said above I can't speak for every man but for me i only want to go to gym cause i a health freak. Certain stuff i just won't eat. An so i can be fit to take on any task, never know when i have to live in the woods and i do need to be fit to be able to carry alot of equipment. Can't be fight and trying to run from a big ass bear that got provoked because i tryed to eat one of its cubs

Yes I do spend hours and reason i want to learn this is cause of following:
A. Mulitple girls
B. Have fun (How much fun would it be to have 3 girls go on a vacation which you, and your fuvking all of them)
C. Have the most girls out of my Social circle
D. Teach all my afc friends
E. Fuvk as many beautiful women as possible until i die
F. Expertise (In everything i do i always want to be one of the top guys so this is no different I want to be a top guy out of all my friends, I want them coming to me for girls that i can put them on too.)
G. Countless fuvk buddies (So i can have sex everyday!!!)
H. Use there finances (I really try to get them to shell out money, gifts, company, and caring (Need someone to make soup when i'm sick )

Money as i said I rarely shell out money only exception is if she is doing something in return that will make it even or me getting more out of the deal.

Originally posted by tseluca
now these guys want to hate on you friv

very very funny. I wouldn't even bother trying to help them any more

There will always be hate you just post advice and hope some of the lurkers pass by the advice and decide to try it out. Meanwhile having the KJs and AFCs bashing on people. "You can only help the ones who want to be helpped"

Originally posted by tseluca
spider. your whole theroy is flawed

Taking dating advice from a man about woman is like taking diet advice from fat people.

Women dont ask other women what men want. These so called experts are just after your $$$$$$$

If women don't know what they want, how the hell would men know what women want.

I started out on this board with good intentions, I was giving genuine advice trying toi hhelp out. Read all my threads, not just this topic. But some idiots feel the need to bash me, so I started this one

I don't see nothing wrong with taking advice from a guy but taking advice from a women is not the right route at all. Girls can't possibly teach men how to pick up women. (maybe lesbians) But for all you men out there approach a girl and tell her you have a blind date in a few hours what would be some good things to wear and what should you do to get the girl. She will tell you the most AFC things. Ask any girl who should pay for dinner "The man should pay" or "We go half and half". The women aren't suppose to be the chooser, seriously the men are. Check any other species and name one where the female selects the guy? Guys are mainly attracted only to looks and then personality. Women mainly base a man on the males personality and then looks. Why do you think men look at X rated magazines, and girls read love novels. Girls want to be in there own love novel so you must give her all those emotions, that is why you should being giving the women all sorts of emotions good and bad. Make her happy, scared, worried, curious, fear of loss, excited, relieved all at same time. She isn't going to forget all that crap. Girls would tell you to act like a gentlemen, and everything in the AFC book. I've told my moms about this site that i go too it and that yes i will be having girls in and out of the house, and she is trying to to make me turn too a AFC. I know countless girls who think guys are so called "hot" but wouldn't even talk to them because of the way he acts, some avoid men because they act so AFC.

Originally posted by tseluca
I can walk into any bar at any given night and leave what whatever man I choose, he doesn't have to say a word.


If I wanted to I could walk up to some guy take him by the hand and say come on 10 times out of 10 he will follow me, no questions asked

Yes, I choose who I date

Ya , **** if you were hot and you walked up to me i'd say might as well its a easy fuvk. Main reason i went and fuvked you was because it was easy and i'd be able to tell my friends about it later. But that doesn't really make you the chooser just because you walked up to someone taking him by the hand, men base almost everything just on the women looks. No ugly girl could come up to me taking me by the hand asking for a fuvk hell no! so basically she doesn't choose who she wants because she can't get the person because of her looks. A guy on other hand can basically choose so longs he gots all of your emotions going on anything can happen. He must have gotten you so emotionally excited that he finally comes back to sit next to you and your just so excited that he is back and then 1 thing leads to the next then after you realized that you just fuvked him. Same thing with a guy he gets so horny because he is being teased by the womens looks while she is undressing that he can't wait to feel you up. As most guys said most women don't want to be responsible for anything that happens so thats why women let men lead. Look at soap operas and love novels then men are always leading and thats what gets alot of women stimulated. Women don't want a guy saying "umm...i think we should go to umm johnny's pizzeria. What do you think?" girls would rather "Lets go to the johnny's pizzera". I want to go sleep so i'll finish my rambling tomorrow.

 

[backbreaker]

first of all, what the **** is this thread even supposed to be about anymore?

Why come to an internet message board to hate women? YOu can hate women in your everyday lives without having to spend the time here coming here to do it.

Anyway tseluca, juding from your words, I can tell two things about you from previous experiences... 1) You are reasonably attractive and 2) you are what I call a "princess" or in otherwords, a spoiled brat

I can also tell you were in a rather serious relatioship and somehow got hurt. You are exterverting yourself onto people you don't even know. You might be able to fool the AFC's on this board, but i'm a pro, and I see the hurt little girl inside your post.

your the type of girl that always brags to guys how many guys like them, want to bang them, and if for some reason that doesn't get to the guy that you are itnerested in, the fact that you are wanted by alot of other hot guys, you don't know how to handle the situtation.

With that said, alot of what you are saying is true, most guys here just either dont' have enough field experience to know, or dont' want to admit it. Yes, pretty much any girl over a 6 can walk in a bar and **** most guys in clubs. Not ALL like tseluca says, but alot of them.

Most guys standards drop considerably when they don' thave to do the approaching. Most guys aren't thinking straight, because it's not the normal way things are supposed to go.

My Ex told me honestly that she has never been flat out rejected in her life, and I honestly believe her. She said the reason she liked me as much as she did, is because I was the first guy to not jump at the opprotuntiy to have sex with her and the fact that when she told me she wanted to date me, I didn't jump at that opprotuntiy either. Drove her crazy, because she had never experienced it before.

However my point is, yes you may be able to pick up most guys in the club, BUT your problem, as is most women's, are that the ones that you CAN'T pick up are the ones you want.

I have a rule of thumb... well first off, most guys jump at the opprotunity to have a girl pick them up simply because they like the fact of not having to go though the "horror" or picking a girl up themselves, and are just reliaved they got thought with it. I for one appriacte my role in the entire courting process. Meaning, I appraciate and like the fact that I am supposed to approach women..w ouldn't have it any other way. I won't talk to a girl that appoaches me, because that's not what she is supposed to do.

Any woman worth her salt will not have a problem attracting men. I am supposed to compete for her attention. if she is appraching me, that means there is no one to compete with.. you have to ask yourself why no one else is attracted to her, even though she may be good looking.

Now, i have no problem with a girl making it known she wants me to talk to her or wants me in general, but just plain out role reversal is a no no in my book.

The best two relationships I ever had, there was always another guy that I had to compete with to "win her over"... anytime a girl meets me and wants to date me from jump, I am very very cautious.. why is she in such a hurry?

Like I said also, you are a princess.. I don't like princesses too much. Your a grown woman. It's cute when you are HS or still in your Teens, but if you are old enough to go to the club, it's time for you to realize your role in socitey, and it's not to be a snob or a prude that thinks that every guy on earth is attracted to them, ti's to be a WOMAN.


Other points of interest:

yes, bashing on girls is totally AFC.. it's even worse. Yes, you might have gotten ****ed over in your life, but you will never move forward and become a better person until you learn how to accecpt responsability for your actions. You are bashing women not becuase you hate women, but because you are araid to look in the mirrior and you blame everyone else for your problems.

Doesn't it look better when you see that chick that did you soooo wrong in a year or 2, and you don't have to pretend that you have accecpted whatever happened and moved on... BECAUSE YOU LOOKED IN THE MIRROR, FIXED WHAT WAS WAS WRONG AND ACCECPTED IT, AND MOVED ON.

Thoose are the same guys that always want "closure".. they always want to see the girl admit they were "wrong" and how "sorry" they are.. They are the ones who wish the girls will grow old and die alone and crap like that.

Life is not short, this isn't a nike slogan. Life is LONG, very LONG and you live and learn. I am able to grow and learn things faster than most people because I accecpt responiblity for my actions even when things honestly aren't my fault, and I don't know the word for it, but I am extremely good at accecpting what's going on, and dealing with it, no matter the circumstances, becuase you cant change the past.

 

[xsonik]

tseluca, forgive me and all the other people on this forum, but it sounds like you were trying to stir up a hornets nest with your initial statement. women bash men all the time and men bash women too. i think it's safe to say since this is a forum where men talk about how to improve, you will occasionally read some guy venting about some woman. women tell me all the time that they bash on men, hell they bash on men in front of me. that isn't going to change. maybe it wasn't in your heart to get us pissed, but it sure looks like it ya know? just consider that

 

[Desdinova]

WTF??? I'm gone for a figgin' week and this thread is still going? Not only is it still going, but it's going nowhere.

 

[AgonyUncle]

Originally posted by tseluca
I ca walk into any bar at any given night and leave what whatever man I choose, he doesn't have to say a word.


If I wanted to I could walk up to some guy take him by the hand and say come on 10 times out of 10 he will follow me, no questions asked

Yes, I choose who I date

Yes, most attractive women can get any man. But can they keep him? Thats the difference. Women have most of the power until you bed them. Once you have slept with them, depending on how things built up, there is a major power transfer back to the man. That is, unless he has no spine and is so petrified he wont get his hands on another piece of ass he becomes a needy 8 year old boy. So ya, you can walk into any bar and nail any man. (Or most of them, some do have standards Im sure) Bottom line, none of them will respect you. The boys would, but no man worth his salt has much respect for a woman he can nail with less then 30 mins conversation.

I have never come across women as sexually aggresive as what American women are. But the few I have been with I am glad I was only with for a short while. Yet to meet one who was not a drama queen. In my travels, American chicks = easy lay.

Spoilt little princesses the lot of you. Ill take European women anyday.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
Your argument regarding the nature of a mans confidence is in fact circular and a paradox.

1. Men only want sex
2. Women hold the key of sex.
3. 95% of a mans confidence comes from acquiring sex.
4. In order to get sex a man must do what women tell him.
5. A man that does what a woman tells him has no confidence in himself.
6. Women don't like a man without confidence.

If I could give u a standing ovation online I would....