WWE Star Chris Benoit and Family found dead in home!!

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Man, US sports is chock-full of cheating roid monkey juicers!

Latest male idol busted?

ROYCE GRACIE!!!
MMA legend Royce Gracie is the latest fighter from FEG's Dynamite USA show to test positive for a banned substance.

According to the California State Athletic Commission, test results indicated that the 40-year-old Gracie had traces of nandrolone - an anabolic steroid - in his system. He has been suspended and fined $2,500 by the commission.
Wow, this is just getting SAD now... :(
 

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One of the problems with this country is that the "masses" all have some supreme GROUP they perceive as the ANSWER, when most times and just through even common sense means..usually this supreme GROUP aren't as SMART as they LOOK, most times they are completely dumb as hell.

One posters in this thread questioned what the "investigators" concluded and another poster quickly commented that, "Investigators wouldn't lie...they wouldn't conclude something like that."

Well what world are you living in? How many people are in prison for crimes they didn't commit? With the way laws are tilted in the favor of women these days, how many men are in prison or have a slattered reputation because some chick decided she wanted to go and say he raped or sexually harassed her?

The "investigators" have been wrong MANY TIMES. Sometimes you can't just go on what LOOKS LIKE and sometimes you have to deep fvcking deeper which is what they didn't do which really pissed me off. They just came out and shouted some shyt and now the WWE has all of a sudden FORGOTTEN about the contributes this man has given to their sport? Kind of reminds me how they made the Ultimate Warrior DVD years ago, what fvcking disrespect?

For example, say if me and my girl are living in a apartment. Say the girl goes crazy and grabs a gun and shoots me in the head. Then writes a suicide letter similar to my handwriting and tacks it on the wall. She dusts the gun off, sorta puts my hand prints around it, lays it next to me and then leaves. She leaves with no one seeing her leaves and locks the door behind.

What does it look like what happened? Yeah, that John committed suicide. The "investigators" ask some of my "collegues" and yeah they will say, "Well John was a little different. He never really went with the status quo, he would always be against the flow of things. Many people didn't like him and I thought John was kind of crazy anyway."

Makes sense doesn't it? John commits suicide.

Fvck the Investigators.

-DJF
 

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John-467 said:
One of the problems with this country is that the "masses" all have some supreme GROUP they perceive as the ANSWER, when most times and just through even common sense means..usually this supreme GROUP aren't as SMART as they LOOK, most times they are completely dumb as hell.

One posters in this thread questioned what the "investigators" concluded and another poster quickly commented that, "Investigators wouldn't lie...they wouldn't conclude something like that."

Well what world are you living in? How many people are in prison for crimes they didn't commit? With the way laws are tilted in the favor of women these days, how many men are in prison or have a slattered reputation because some chick decided she wanted to go and say he raped or sexually harassed her?

The "investigators" have been wrong MANY TIMES. Sometimes you can't just go on what LOOKS LIKE and sometimes you have to deep fvcking deeper which is what they didn't do which really pissed me off. They just came out and shouted some shyt and now the WWE has all of a sudden FORGOTTEN about the contributes this man has given to their sport? Kind of reminds me how they made the Ultimate Warrior DVD years ago, what fvcking disrespect?

For example, say if me and my girl are living in a apartment. Say the girl goes crazy and grabs a gun and shoots me in the head. Then writes a suicide letter similar to my handwriting and tacks it on the wall. She dusts the gun off, sorta puts my hand prints around it, lays it next to me and then leaves. She leaves with no one seeing her leaves and locks the door behind.

What does it look like what happened? Yeah, that John committed suicide. The "investigators" ask some of my "collegues" and yeah they will say, "Well John was a little different. He never really went with the status quo, he would always be against the flow of things. Many people didn't like him and I thought John was kind of crazy anyway."

Makes sense doesn't it? John commits suicide.

Fvck the Investigators.

-DJF
No offense, but did you just realize that you are that small? That is why some people leave and go to places where they are bigger fish than they were back home. Wake the f*** up! In every society on earth the average person gets shafted. Always been like that and always will. There is nothing worse than mediocrity. If you were not so damn average you wouldn't be on here. The only cure known to man is to make yourself stick way out from the pack around you. Start a new life far away or fight it out with those around you for big dawg status. Your choice. Peacocking is not what I am talking about either. If that was the case, every overly pierced kook would be king of the street. As it is, the kings of the street tend to be short guys with fat wallets and the right telephone numbers.
 

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Larry King Live will be interviewing several wrestlers tonight (7/9/07) about the Benoit tragedy.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/


Monday's show
Why did wrestling star Chris Benoit kill his family then himself? As mysteries multiply around his indicted doctor and his murdered son's health, his closest wrestler friends try to make sense of it all. Watch tonight, 9 ET.

GUESTS:
• Chris Jericho & Bret Hart: Close Friends of Chris Benoit
• John Cena: First interview since the Benoit tragedy -- he is the first Current WWE Superstar to speak outside the WWE tribute.
 

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paradox, have they really ruled out any foul play on someone killing them all and framing him?
where is mr monk??
 

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paradox, have they really ruled out any foul play on someone killing them all and framing him?
where is mr monk??
No new details but the wrestler Konnan said in an interview that Benoit probably just snapped. Konnan also said that it might be a result of an undiagnosed concussion. All of the wrestlers being interviewed say that drug use is common among wrestlers. Painkillers are at he top of the list. Also, top wrestlers are away from their family almost 300 days out of the year. In other sports you get a break. The only break that you get in wrestling is when you get injured. For many wrestlers that means no pay.

Who is Mr. Monk?



Other prominent wrestler deaths ...

Adrian Adonis — Died in 1988 when his rented minivan hit a moose in Newfoundland, Canada, where vehicle-hits-moose accidents are common, but not necessarily fatal.

Andre the Giant — Died in 1993 of congestive heart failure, a byproduct of the growth hormone secreting pituitary tumor, a condition he had for most of his life but chose not to have treated.

Big Boss Man — Ray "Big Boss Man" Traylor was found dead in his home as a result of a heart attack in 2004.

Dino Bravo — Died after being shot several times, twice in the head, in 1993. Bravo was allegedly involved with an organized crime group based in Montreal that dealt with illegal cigarettes.

Frank "Bruiser Brody" Goodish — Stabbed to death by fellow wrestler Jose Gonzalez after getting into a fight in 1988.

Eddie Guerrero — Died of heart failure in 2005. Guerrero was found with a toothbrush in his mouth near the bathroom of his hotel room in Minneapolis, where he was to take part in WWE's big SuperShow TV taping for RAW and SmackDown.

Owen Hart — Died from falling from the rafters of Kansas City's Kemper Arena in 1999. It is believed his costume got caught in the rigging wires of the rafters as he was about to make his entrance. Hart fell 50 feet, landed in the ring and died of critical shock trauma caused by the impact of the fall.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Was found dead in his Tampa, Fla. hotel room in 2003. Cause of death is unknown.

Junkyard Dog — Sylvester "Junkyard Dog" Ritter died after falling asleep while driving his car and hitting a tree.

Miss Elizabeth — Elizabeth Huelette died of a drug overdose of alcohol and pain pills in 2003.

Brian Pillman — Died in 1997 of an undetected heart condition, arteriosclerotic heart disease. He had a documented history of abuse of prescription drugs.

"Ravishing" Rick Rude — Died of a heart attack in 1999. It was rumored that Rude overdosed on prescription pills.

Davey Boy Smith — "British Bulldog" died in 2002 from heart failure that a coroner said was probably caused by steroids.

Chris Von Erich — Died in 1991 after committing suicide by shooting himself.

David Von Erich — Died in 1984 of a drug overdose.

Kerry Von Erich — Died in 1993 after committing suicide by shooting himself. Von Erich had been arrested that same day on cocaine possession, violating his probation on another drug charge.

Mike Von Erich — Died in 1987 after committing suicide by overdosing on Placidly, a tranquilizer.

Yokozuna — Died in 2000 of a heart attack. Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoia weighed approximately 600 pounds at the time of his death.
 

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bigappledg you speak FACTS, but you are ignoring my views on the FACT NOT BEING RIGHT,

"No offense, but did you just realize that you are that small? That is why some people leave and go to places where they are bigger fish than they were back home. Wake the f*** up! In every society on earth the average person gets shafted. Always been like that and always will."

That doesn't make it correct. You sound similar to many of these "guys" in the town who when you speak on the lack of femine women in the marketplace and the consrewed "game" that over 90% of them pull you into with their "sex attraction," all the guys do is talk about how to just "get over it," how to just "live with it," and etc. Fvck getting over it, how about getting RID OF IT? Ignoring a pitbull running lose in the backyard doesn't make the pitbull DISAPPEAR. The probablity is that sooner or later more and more people are going to be bit by his azz and someone needs to put the pitbull to sleep or on a leash. I don't seek to LIVE WITH BULLSHYT, I seek to ELIMINATE IT.

"If you were not so damn average you wouldn't be on here. The only cure known to man is to make yourself stick way out from the pack around you. Start a new life far away or fight it out with those around you for big dawg status. Your choice."

Me being on Sosuave doesn't make me average, Sosuave fills my soul from reading posts from specific posters which actually makes me above average, the "average" don't live through their souls the "average" live through people and the evironment.

But bigappledj you speak FACTS in how to tolerate or bend over backwards to the bullshyt but again you sorta sound like these miserable Husbands I know, they have no life anymore and are a complete servant to their families and wife....yet when I tell them how that's wrong they talk about how to TOLERATE it or just LIVE WITH IT. No bigappledg I'm not like you, I say END IT not LIVE WITH IT.

The fact of the matter is going back to the Benoit case, is that the "investigators" concluded too damn soon if you ask me. I know killers, professional killers. When they kill somebody they typically set it up to LOOK LIKE someone else did it. There's a ton of way to FOOL the investigators.

I'm not concluding Benoit didn't commit this crime, maybe he did? But no one can conclude that he did. All they can conclude is that wrestlers have this stress or pop this pill, not to excuse the overdosing behavior but a job of a professional wrestler is not FAKE from a physical and mental standpoint. They might not get HIT in the ring but their bodies and minds are HIT. It's stressing to perform like that night in and night out, the shyt isn't easy. I think there's ways around painkillers and steriods but how can someone truly judge without being in their shoes?

The lack of respect his legacy has gotten pisses me off, because he contributed a lot to the sport of wrestling. The Benoit Tribute show was real....the way he's being treated now is NOT. And I just can't wait until some TRUTH comes out the and "investigators" say they got it wrong. Now all of a sudden Benoit's legacy continues? A load of crap if you ask me, shows how many "friends" you really have in this world. How is it that on Monday I'm a legend and icon, then on Tuesday I'm the worst thing ever on Earth, without even having all of the fvcking facts yet?

-DJF
 

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Just to add to Paradox's list:

Road Warrior Hawk
Mike Awesome
(Sensational) Sherri Martel


And yet the likes of Ric Flair, Terry Funk, Hulk Hogan and Superfly are still wrestling well into their 50s and beyond. It seems predominantly those who peaked during the early 90s who are dying off, while the oldschool wrestlers are still going strong. It's possibly related to the competetive lifestyle and the drugs and wild lifestyles they use to ease the pressure.

I've always been suspicious that many of these guys can go binge drinking and living these crazy lifestyles, and yet stay in phenomenal shape and put on amazing athletic performances. I've been dedicated to nutrition, bodybuilding and fitness for years - I don't drink or smoke and my diet is almost immaculate, and yet I don't come close to the condition of these guys!

I think Konnan hit the nail on the head when he said there is obvious evidence of steroid use by just looking at the guys and their year round physiques.
 
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Well I'll put it like this. If you are investigating a case like this, it looks like Benoit did it all and that is true but the overall premise makes no sense as to why he would do something like this at this time, all of a sudden.

I mean, one minute he's about to go into a storyline where he would be World Champion again and get a big pay raise, then he "all of a sudden" makes up a story where he must go back home for a emergency? Then he goes there and kills everybody?

I don't think anybody hung Benoit, I think he might have hung himself....

But for some reason inside of me I dont' think he killed his family though. Why he hung himself is beyond me but I dont' think he killed his family. I could be wrong, but I just don't think that happened.

Maybe when Benoit ran home, there was a past incident or something and maybe he believed someone was threatening their lives? I mean the whole reason he said he rushed back home was because his family was in trouble. It could have been a whole other situation....what if the wife had something going on with another guy? The guy killed them and Benoit maybe knew who the guy was..ran back home and found he was too late? Emotional as hell, Benoit hangs himself?

My thing might sound strange, people are in prision right now for crimes they didnt' commit. Guys go to prison for rape charges they didn't commit, I don't think Benoit did this. And I will leave it at that.

-DJF
they said him being traded to ecw he might have thought that was a demotion of some kind...they say they dont think he knew he would win the ecw title and maybe thats why he did it??? i dont know...were all confused really...
 

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Benoit likely never got therapy or grief counseling after his best friend Eddie Guerrero died.

Combine that with the pressures of being a wrestler and so many of his other friends dying you've got a man without a support system to vent his problems to.

So my take is in the last few months of his life Chris Benoit probably lost touch with reality as grief and mental stress kept building up and he likely became delusional and psychotic the most severely at the very last month or weeks of his life to be able to perform these horrible acts.

People say he just snapped but I don't buy that anymore as he notified WWE before going home that his wife and son were throwing up blood as victims of food poisoning or some such.

I don't think that could be considered "snapping".

I believe his mind was already gone and he was planning to do something horrible to his family as a result.

I don't believe the killings were triggered by a single domestic dispute that caused him to "snap" and kill his wife and then kill his son as a mercy killing (believing he'd be better off dead than to grow up without a mother and father like some are saying) but planned out by a mentally sick mind in advance that became that way as the result of a gradual downward spiral that Chris couldn't find his way out of unfortunately.

Also a bit before the killings Chris set up some kind of bank account for his ex wife and children and when his wife Nancy found out they got into an argument and she wanted her and Daniel to be included in it but Chris wouldn't budge and kept them out of it as his mentally deranged mind had likely already decided that he was going to kill them soon so it wasn't going to matter anyway.

It was also reported that Benoit had become religious in the last year of his life and Larry King wondered if Benoit's motive for the killing may of been a twisted idea that the world was an awful place and they'd all be better off in Heaven together.
 

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There Was No Double Murder-Suicide

Here's the thing, I might be the only person in America that feels this way and I could be wrong, but this was not a double murder-suicide. There was two deaths and when Benoit got home and found this occurred, he hung himself.

They said the wife and child died from suffocation, I believe that choked on blood clokes in their throats.

If you look at the facts already stated in this case, these facts SUPPORT my conclusion.

Fact #1: Let's talk about WHO everybody said Chris Benoit was. He was a quiet nice guy and a real family man type of person.

QUIET NICE GUY

So he was quiet? This means that his personality is more of the type to hold in emotions or not really express sincere PAIN with most people, he stays to himself and really leans on his Inner Voice to guide his decisions and comfort him in tough times. His Inner Voice was his best friend. I am like this also.

REAL FAMILY MAN

He was also a real family man, really loving his family. I bet with this type of love and his connection and leaning on his inner voice, I bet he had a strong inner duty to PROTECT THEM AT ALL TIMES, and PROVIDE FOR THEM AT ALL TIMES. If anything occurred to his family that would mean that Benoit failed! Benoit was a tough competitior and would not allow himself to fail!

Remember these two facts as I will come back to them a little later.

Fact #2: Benoit gets a phone call saying there's something wrong with his family

Benoit is preparing for a weekend where he has some house shows and then he's expected to win the World Title again with CM Punk it was written, that could have been changed but if he didn't win it at Vengence he would have won it eventually with a program with CM Punk.

So this is a time that Benoit, who had just lose a US title program with MVP to put over MVP, this was a time where Benoit was being moved to ECW to put over CM Punk and other wrestlers on that brand. A potential pay raise was in order.

But Benoit gets word that there's "Something wrong with his wife and child." One source said the call was they were spitting up blood from food poisoning or something. Benoit now cancels the House Shows to fly home to see his family.

NOW HOLD ON, this isn't UNLIKE Benoit to do this! Chris Jericho talked on Larry King Live tonight on how Benoit would always make time to fly home between shows to see his family even if he was home just 5 or 6 hours. He'll fly there and fly back to the show.

So Benoit gets this call, and seeing that it's his duty to protect his family only he can now come to their rescue!

Fact #3: The Investigators said the family was killed first, over the weekend.

The Investigators concluded that the family died before Benoit due to the SMELL of the bodies, the smell of the bodies indicated who died first. Now....the investigators knew the bodies died over the weekend, but Benoit didn't fly back home until the weekend!!

Which means either one or two things at this point if you've been following me.

1. Either Benoit got home and killed them early that weekend

2. Or Benoit got home and found them already fvcking dead!


Fact #4: Benoit test shows he had no STEROIDS within him. And the medications would NOT make someone snap!

This means that Benoit did not snap from any medications. The only reason he could have killed himself would have been from EXTREME depression...hear me....EXTREME depression. But everybody stated that there was NOTHING wrong, sad, or depressed looking on Benoit when at work that week. NOTHING...so this depression had to occur SUDDENLY. Are you following me Sosuave?
 

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There Was No Double Murder-Suicide

CONCLUSIONS

1.) The wife and child died "over the weekend" this could mean when before Benoit got back home or WHEN Benoit got home.

2.) Beniot was really quiet and leaned on his inner voice most of the time.

3.) Benoit was a real family man, and it was his duty to protect them at all times.

4.) Only EXTREME DEPRESSION would make him kill himself, seeing that there was nothing wrong with him all that week and he showed no symptoms of extreme depression, this depressive state had to occur SUDDENLY!

And when did it occur?

WHEN BENOIT OPENED HIS DOOR AND FOUND HIS FAMILY DEAD!!!

He snapped! His emotions took over him, he found his fvckin son had been smothered to dead and his wife as well. He read the bible, got on his knees and asked God just what the hell happened here. Benoit is laying on the floor right now weeping. He grabs two bibles and placed them next by his family....his world had come to a fvcking end!

He now is sitting there, weeping. Now knowing what the fvck to do. Does he call the cops? What the fvck are they going to do? It's already over.

Does he call WWE and tell them? He doesn't give a fvck anymore about some stupid azz job, his world is gone!

He grabs his cell phone and text messages Chavo Guerrero (the person he sent the texts to), seeing that Benoit isn't really the type to say anything about this problems...he just decides to himself to not speak on it.

That night, it gets worst. He can't go on living....he's still weeping. Probably staring at his family.

He finally decides to just hang it up late that Saturday night. So he goes outside, feeds the dogs, leaves the house door unlocked.....puts two bibles next to his family telling them, "I'm coming home with you!"

He goes in the weight room, and sends a text message to Chavo again informing him of his House Address and that the door is opened.

Benoit gets up there, hangs himself.....struggles for a minute.........and then passes.

REST IN PEACE BENOIT

-DJF
 

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Sosuave this might sound a little off to you, but food poisoning and the fact they were THROWING UP BLOOD, could have lead to blood clokes in the throat. They said the wife and child were suffocated to dead and the wife had a bruise on her back and blood behind her neck. This could have easily been from her getting the blood caught in her throat and consistently ramming herself against the wall to try and BREATHE.

The child probably just laid there kicking for a while before he just went over.

I have no idea what the hell they ate, but I think Benoit should have called the damn Ambulance instead of just flying home. He's not a god damn doctor and he should have called emergency over to the house.

He probably thought that to himself when he got there and found them. This added more shame to this.

Very sad and these are my conclusions. I could be totally off, but the FACTS..not OPINIONS...but the FACTS of this case ALL support my conclusions.

Lol, and the FACTS of this case DO NOT support the Investigator's conclusions.

Why would he kill a 7 year old?
What could have made him snap?
He was a nice guy, what happened?

Lol, double murder suicide my azz...tell that investigator to go back to his training school and grab more common sense.

-DJF
 

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hahah some of you guys make me laugh..coming up with your own conclusion as to what happened....HE WAS FRAMED! what a joke
 

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hahah some of you guys make me laugh..coming up with your own conclusion as to what happened....HE WAS FRAMED! what a joke
Yeah, it's pretty naive.

Investigators have found hard evidence that he did it, when and how. They just don't know why. It makes no sense for the police force to conspire to frame some random wrestler.
 

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Ok, John I can see how she would get bruises from ramming herself against things to get a blood clot out, but how is binding your feet and hands together going to help you get a blood clot out?

Benoit never flew home because they were sick. He was home and said he wasnt coming to Saturdays house show because they were coughing up blood. (Probably caused by his own handy work)

Anyways, face the facts mate, your favorite wrestler is a murderer.
 

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John-467 said:
They said the wife and child died from suffocation, I believe that choked on blood clokes in their throats.

If you look at the facts already stated in this case, these facts SUPPORT my conclusion.
are you ****ing serious? that is the dumbest comment I have ever heard...they would be evidence that hey choked on ****ing blood clots, if they choked on them, then they blood clots would still have been in their throats when the bodies were discovered


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Very sad and these are my conclusions. I could be totally off, but the FACTS..not OPINIONS...but the FACTS of this case ALL support my conclusions.

Lol, and the FACTS of this case DO NOT support the Investigator's conclusions.

Why would he kill a 7 year old?
What could have made him snap?
He was a nice guy, what happened?

Lol, double murder suicide my azz...tell that investigator to go back to his training school and grab more common sense.

-DJF
no mate they are your opinions..
 

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Investigators: Wrestler Benoit loaded with steroids when killed wife, son
July 17, 2007

BY GREG BLUESTEIN

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DECATUR, Ga. — Pro wrestler Chris Benoit had steroids and other drugs in his system when he killed his wife and young son last month and hanged himself in the family’s home, investigators said Tuesday.

Benoit’s body contained 10 times the normal level of testosterone, which appeared to have been injected shortly before he died, as well as the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, authorities said.

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The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Benoit tested negative for alcohol.

The state’s top medical examiner, Dr. Kris Sperry, said there was no evidence of any other anabolic steroids in the wrestler’s body, and nothing to show that steroids played a role in the death of Nancy and Daniel Benoit.

“An elevation of that ratio does not translate into something abnormal in a person’s thought process or behavior,” he said.

Sperry said the boy appeared to have been sedated when he was asphyxiated, and Benoit’s wife had a “therapeutic” level of sedatives in her body.

Benoit is suspected of killing his wife and 7-year-old son, placing Bibles next to their bodies and then hanging himself on the cable of a weight machine.

Anabolic steroids were found in the home, raising questions about whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids can cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as roid rage.

Benoit’s wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone. Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, authorities said.

The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the boy because of a lack of urine.

Federal authorities have charged Benoit’s personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin, with improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit.

He has pleaded not guilty.

Investigators have also raided Astin’s office several times since the deaths, seizing prescription records and other documents.

Before he was charged, Astin told the AP he prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities believe Benoit killed his wife.

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