WTF is going on with the world and this non-binary crap??

[Kotaix]

I have no problem with gay or trans people as individuals. However, they are pushing an LGBTQ agenda, even onto pre-pubescent children, and are essentially recruiting. Here's an article that references a study that 40% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ. I believe that is rather high, but there are a number of studies showing that the younger generations have exploding numbers of people identifying as LGBTQ . IMO, this is a result of indoctrination, and a lack of moral standards in our current culture.

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-40-...-christians-identify-lgbtq-poll-shows-1641085

There is a really important distinction to make here.... it's not gay or trans people who are pushing all this crap. It's the gay and trans activists (who are likely not gay or trans themselves) that have no qualms co-opting the voice and cause of actual gays and trans people to further their cause. They claim to speak for all gays and trans, yet they will immediately attack any member of the group that speaks for themselves and against the narrative. Blair White comes immediately to mind.

The vast majority of people don't hate gays and trans. People hate the LGBTQ movement because it's spearheaded insuferable human scum.

 

[zekko]

So you think a parent can prevent a kid from being lgbtq?

I think a kid that age doesn't have his sexual/gender identity formed yet, and he can be pushed or coddled into it. If you give in to every whim that a kid comes up with, that is not good parenting.

 

[Billtx49]

I think a kid that age doesn't have his sexual/gender identity formed yet, and he can be pushed or coddled into it. If you give in to every whim that a kid comes up with, that is not good parenting.

From healthychildren.org :

Gender identity typically develops in stages: Around age two: Children become conscious of the physical differences between boys and girls. Before their third birthday: Most children can easily label themselves as either a boy or a girl. By age four: Most children have a stable sense of their gender identity.Sep 18, 2018

Those conclusions obviously refer to a normal childhood, but children can also be manipulated after age four, just look at all the stage moms turning their daughters into lifetime beauty pageant contestants …

 

[zekko]

Gender identity typically develops in stages: Around age two: Children become conscious of the physical differences between boys and girls. Before their third birthday: Most children can easily label themselves as either a boy or a girl. By age four: Most children have a stable sense of their gender identity.Sep 18, 2018

Those conclusions obviously refer to a normal childhood, but children can also be manipulated after age four, just look at all the stage moms turning their daughters into lifetime beauty pageant contestants …

Take into consideration activist/woke parents who buy their kids boys and girls toys because they want the child to "reveal" their gender themselves, or the ones who just buy girls toys for the boys, because they don't want to feed into stereotypes. Then the preschoolers watch kids shows about boys wearing dresses and how that's okay, and get preached to by drag queens singing about bisexuals and pansexuals. It's got to have an effect.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Take into consideration activist/woke parents who buy their kids boys and girls toys because they want the child to "reveal" their gender themselves, or the ones who just buy girls toys for the boys, because they don't want to feed into stereotypes. Then the preschoolers watch kids shows about boys wearing dresses and how that's okay, and get preached to by drag queens singing about bisexuals and pansexuals. It's got to have an effect.

According to those morons, gender is a social construct anyway.

Treating children in this manner is a form of child abuse, pure and simple. One day, people will be studying the history of the early 21st century and viewing "woke" parents and teachers with the same contempt that we reserve for pedophiles.

 

[rjc149]

But you seem very upset about the parents of people who don't feel right in their own skin.

Are we talking about people -- grown adults who are able to make decisions in their own best interest -- or children? That's the crux of the debate here.

At what age do we allow a person to determine a gender identity for themselves that isn't what they were "assigned at birth?"

I've given the example of my cousin, who as a young child, would break into his mother's makeup chest and wear lipstick, and wear his sister's dresses and heels. He is not transgendered. He is now a regular ol' stereotypical gay man who works in fashion and watches the Oscars.

Let's assume he grew up in some California household, and at the age of 7, childishly insisted he was "born into the wrong body," and was allowed irreversible gender reassignment. Now he's a grotesquely mutilated adult with tits and a kidney problem. Was it ethical and conscientious for his parents to humor his childhood whim?

Watching your son play dress-up with his sister's clothes while you quietly console yourself in a glass of whiskey is different from encouraging him to snip snip and make it official. And it's different from accepting that your grown adult son has a void in his life, for whatever reason, that only gender reassignment surgery will fill (and it usually doesn't -- suicide rates are higher for post-op transgenders).

 

[MatureDJ]

In the long run, these folks will just be Darwin victims.

 

[Zimbabwe]

 

[MissouriMark]

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina.

 

[drane]

I go to Yahoo today, just to review the futures, and I see these two stories on the front page:

Busy Philipps says she's received 'horrible DMs' since revealing her child is nonbinary: 'But who cares?'

The actress opens up about parenting a nonbinary child and hearing from other moms in similar situations.

www.yahoo.com

Elliot Page bares abs in new shirtless selfie: 'Swoon'

The trans actor has spoken previously about the "life-saving" impact of top surgery.

www.yahoo.com

Females thinking they are males, others not knowing what the heck they are? What is going on in the world today? This is absolutely bizare in so many words.. How can any one think this is mentally healthy on these people? The damage being done to our youth is unreal.

since when do we let 1/2 of 1% tell us anything, much less how to speak? They can all go take a flying fling at a rolling donut and dont come back. Who needs them?

 

[Josh Davidson]

Same thing I would suggest to those who believe in the Illuminati and Santa Claus.

The Illuminati is real! No joke! Anyone can message me who wants to learn more about it.

 

[Magic8ball]

Hey guys.

I am a transgender man. FtM. I am a "straight" male so to speak.

I appreciate the openness and acceptance I see here. I gotta story to tell you guys

Dating life is hard in general. In my opinion transphobia and homophobia seems worse in women than men. You know if a woman really accepted such a person like myself, and IS attracted to me but rejects me because I'm trans. That's a problem. I understand being let down for practical reasons like wanting kids or not really attracted to me in general but using the trans against me is absolute bull****. Basically it just boils down to they see themselves nothing more than a person with boobs and a vagina and see men just walking sticks. That's extremely shallow and denying all aspects of a person.

These transphobic women are just bad as a man who can be rigid in his sexuality especially if he thinks he should rule over women or be an ******* based on religion like Christianity or Islam. They like I said even before even I tell them I'm trans, act like the most selfish women very closed off from their true selves. Treat men like ****. I completely understand one needs to be an ******* or douche to get anywhere with women. So guys I'm on YOUR side. I'm hoping one day things will get better, can't hurt to be optimistic.

So men, trans men like myself can be a great ally when experiencing awful things that you guys go through it benefits me as well because of who I happen to be.

 

[Magic8ball]

Have you considered looking for trans MtF women? I'm sure they'd understand.

Actually I have dated them before. Still acted self entitled BITCHES who threatened to kill themselves and acted absolutely ridiculous.

I'm actually going my own way. I'm done with dating. PERIOD.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

There are only two genders. Period.
//End forum thread.

 

[logicallefty]

I am a straight man and I love gay men because they leave more free women for me to pick from. It's a mathematical certainty.

 

[Magic8ball]

I'm aware there are going to be ignorant individuals as well as to my reply on this post. I knew what I was getting into. My reply is directly to those who seem open minded and not to douche bags because trying to argue with me what's what isn't gonna happen, I'm NOT going to engage in any argument because it's like talking to a brick wall.

You know why I'm calm and confident because I have knowledge of things one would not know about, science or otherwise. So that's why. Also it puts me in the position that I don't need approval from other men either (or women for that matter).

I personally think people find it threatening to their position, and ego. Oh well... Ain't my problem.

Guys one message I want to deliver to you, do not ever put a woman first making your life about pursuing women is just sad because we are taught that to measure to a man is how many women we can sleep with, I mean really. Basically it's the need for approval. There's more to life than sex. I know from experience, I been a miserable simp at some point in my life myself. If you have sex but put yourself first all the more power to you.

This non-binary stuff well I'm gonna be honest, I get it. It's not the social norms it's outside of your pre-conceived notion of only two genders. There are not just only two, there are hermaphrodites, intersexed individuals and other complicated science studies on trans individuals that show we have the opposite sex brains,and opposite "sex" hormones at birth and other complicated sequences that makes us who we are. That's a FACT because I'm living proof of that. I understand it seems like a trend because it's shown on media and a lot of men want to be women because they think it's easier to be a woman. **** feminism. There are those of us who are real and this trend tends to snuff us out. This will be the last post I ever say anything about trans individuals

But I dont expect anything to conform to that reality. Not everyone is going to accept that. So I am on with that and moving on.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

It's not the social norms it's outside of your pre-conceived notion of only two genders. There are not just only two, there are hermaphrodites, intersexed individuals and other complicated science studies on trans individuals that show we have the opposite sex brains,and opposite "sex" hormones at birth and other complicated sequences that makes us who we are. That's a FACT because I'm living proof of that.

I stand firm.
All these imaginary sexes are phantasy mind constructs, social ideas and wishes and are not real.

Just because I want be a U-boat or a cat - it still doesn't make me so, because I am born a human. Not born as a cat or a U-boat.

Nature has created two sexes and if you are unsure which gender you belong to then look below your legs...
That's is it and nothing else.

Now what you feel is on individual level is a whole other thing and what you wish/want.

Just because you feel like you are women that doesn't make you one. A mans body is hugely different build from a women's body and that is just a fact that you never can change. So you can never be a real women no matter how much you wish for it and how much you change your body by plastic surgery. Pure science and biology.

So there are only two genders. //end thread.

 

[Jack22]

I think it stands to reason, that if these topics were left out of the light by the media as @Magic8ball had said, no one here would care. It's an uncomfortable topic that challenges our ideas of what is normal, and people need to feel some sense of security. It could very well be some sort of imbalance in the brain like you believe @PowerQuest, or it could be a factory defect that's just something they have to live with like a cleft lip. It's not the ideal, but it doesn't make them any less of a human being.
Should we compromise pre-established etiquette for a small minority of people? Of course not, but I think the existence of these types serves to establish something greater. Mainly, that the exception proves the rule, that there are fundamental differences between the sexes. If there is anything I've learned in life, there is nothing that can be expected with 100% certainty.

I don't want to label @Magic8ball as a "defect" because they're a person capable of setting their own goals in life and meeting them, and the playing field has never been level for anyone. If it were, there wouldn't be so many incel posts about not being born 6'4 with a chiseled jaw line and natural game. Henry Cavill is the apex of physical alpha, but if it weren't for his rugged good looks it's unlikely he'd be doing so well for himself. There's probably an ugly man out there that is his complete opposite but has the best natural game in the world. There is no "perfect" person, it's an ideal that we set for ourselves to strive towards in order to improve our own circumstances. Read up about the "theory of forms" by Plato.

Plato explains how we are always many steps away from the idea or Form. The idea of a perfect circle can have us defining, speaking, writing, and drawing about particular circles that are always steps away from the actual being. The perfect circle, partly represented by a curved line, and a precise definition, cannot be drawn. Even the ratio of pi is an irrational number, that only partly helps to fully describe the perfect circle. The idea of the perfect circle is discovered, not invented.

Why do we have such rigid ideas about sex? Because for the vast majority of people, it is the truth. Male and Female. However, there do exist an extremely small minority that are the exception, but as I had said, the exception only proves the rule.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

t could very well be some sort of imbalance in the brain like you believe @PowerQuest,

Never said that it was an imbalance in the brain.

I'm just saying that simple facts that thinking/believing that there is more than two genders is a wishful thinking mind construct; just like believing in fairy's and elves.

But just because you feel and believe in that doesn't mean that it is a true reality.

However it is a true reality that nature have produced only two genders for homo sapiens: male and female and if you are born a human you will by birth belong to one of these two.

Nature doesn't give sh|t about your feelings. It just is what it is.

 

[Jack22]

You say

Never said that it was an imbalance in the brain.

and then you end with

Nature doesn't give sh|t about your feelings. It just is what it is.

So yes, you do believe it's a chemical imbalance, because "feelings" or emotions are chemicals firing off in the brain to stir you towards certain actions and outcomes.

I think we're talking past each other here, because I'm not approaching this from an emotional standpoint, but with reasoning. For a moment, I'd like you to think about an idea, without accepting it. Is there a 104 genders like the crazy, attention seeking, 14 year olds on tumblr believe? Definitely not. There's only an X and Y chromosome, but there are people born with variations like XXY or XYY. They're real, and can be scientifically proven. Is it the norm, and should it be treated as such where a scummy psychotherapist prescribes hormonal medication to children? No, honestly such practitioners of therapy should lose their license and figuratively (in minecraft) face the wall. Such people will never constitute a sizable enough part of the population to be considered normal.

I agree with @Pan87 in his last post, this has been my experience with them as well.