Wouldn't it be better to use ugly girls for practice?

[Tyson420]

Even the biggest AFC can get a homely looking girl. Isn't that where we should have been starting?

All the Alphas started out this way. Granted each and everyone of them regretted their first time but still.

Shouldn't that be the real path we should be taking?

 

[oneboy21]

Yes you are right! Start with not so good looking girls

 

[Tyson420]

Only issue is some of them get clingy and want commitment and obviously none of us want to be seen or committed with an HB4 <.

It's a reputation issue, what will our friends think?

 

[oneboy21]

Yes you are right, every thing in dating world has some side effects.
Just practice and use them accordingly, when they get clingy you gotta move on

 

[Amw406]

In theory yes. Just keep in mind that uglier girls don't have the same real world experience with guys so you are still going to need to step your game up for the more attractive girls.

What I did when I was first learning to pick up girls. Was there was this girl in my history class that all the guys were drooling over. But she wasn't my type so I didn't see her as super attractive thus losing some of the intimidation factor. I went over to her and acted like I was just sitting next to her because she had an open seat. Then I started using my ****y funny routine and everyone else in the general area until I became the center of attention. The Alpha male if you will. She started hi-fiving and playfully punching me.

The next class she sat in the row behind me next to this 6'6" body builder white knight type who was just trying to impress her. I listened to there conversation but acted like I was more interested in the lesson. Threw in a witty remark if the situation called for it but largely ignored them. She clearly was giving me some sort of test to see if I would be jealous of her talking to another guy. Out of the corner of my eye I could see she kept looking over to me wondering why I wasn't all over her trying to win her over. After class let out that day. The guy next to her wanted to walk out with her and said, "I'm going this way." Because she was giving him fake signs of interest to test me. She replied, "Ok." and walked over to me and said, "I've never meet a guy like you before. My friends and I are going to tailgate the next ASU game. Would you want to come with me?" I replied, "I'll see if my schedule lets me. Give me a call Saturday morning and I'll let you know." and gave her my phone number. She called we had a great night and had sex that night.

 

[st_99]

Honesty, I don't think it works. Even as I get older I STILL have a hard time treating them all the same. I can run some really good game on ugly girls and I don't feel the least bit concerned about outcome, what she thinks about me, etc.. but when it comes to the 8's 9's 10's, man, its still hard to be exactly the same way you are with the fuglys.


IMO, go for the pretty ones right away and don't even bother with the ugs. Because you risk getting bogged down in that
level never progressing. Just go for the pretty ones, screw up and get better.

 

[Amw406]

Honesty, I don't think it works. Even as I get older I STILL have a hard time treating them all the same. I can run some really good game on ugly girls and I don't feel the least bit concerned about outcome, what she thinks about me, etc.. but when it comes to the 8's 9's 10's, man, its still hard to be exactly the same way you are with the fuglys.


IMO, go for the pretty ones right away and don't even bother with the ugs. Because you risk getting bogged down in that
level never progressing. Just go for the pretty ones, screw up and get better.

You can't use it as a routine. You have to become the routine. You have to become the guy of high value. You can't just act like it

 

[MurdocIsGod]

No! Because ugly girls are too easy! You say "hi" to an ugly girl and she wants to fvck...

 

[bigneil]

You can implicitly practice on unattractive women by making sure they like you, and being polite to them but you certainly don't need to follow through by dating or (God forbid) sleeping with them.

Remember, other women take notice of which women you are displaying "social proof" with, so make sure they only see you dating (or flirting with) hot women if you want to charm them.

 

[BettorOffSingle]

Even the biggest AFC can get a homely looking girl. Isn't that where we should have been starting?

All the Alphas started out this way. Granted each and everyone of them regretted their first time but still.

Shouldn't that be the real path we should be taking?

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

The difference between women rated 9.5 and up is this:

THEY DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE SEX TO GET MEN TO TELL THEM THEY LOVE THEM.

Changes everything. Totally different game with the super elites.

This is why I recommend an LJBF with a super-elite over having sex with an NHB (near-hot babe 6.0-7.9 etc.). It's much easier to move out of the friend zone with a super-elite than it is to upgrade sexually.

It just IS.

Aim high. Just aim high.

And NEVER settle.

 

[thevilittletroll]

Even the biggest AFC can get a homely looking girl. Isn't that where we should have been starting?

All the Alphas started out this way. Granted each and everyone of them regretted their first time but still.

Shouldn't that be the real path we should be taking?

i disagree, its not a good idea. practicing on ugly girls will not lower you anxiety when gaming hot ones. plus hot girls are more difficult, the've been hit on way more, and have way more social awareness for boring men's bad game.

all this will do is help you memorize and practice your delivery, if your using routines

 

[MartyMcFly]

No! Because ugly girls are too easy! You say "hi" to an ugly girl and she wants to fvck...

Yeah thats because you're saying "hi" to the girls standing outside of bars and casinos at 2 AM on a friday.

 

[ZenoB]

Or you could just get a HB10 pregnant and get your "fvck trophy" over with.

 

[jafyk]

My thoughts on this is that you might as well go after the hot women because from my experience. I had decided I'd give the lesser attractive women (single moms and so so) a chance but I've come to find out that ven they are full of themselves and tend to see themselves more than they are worth. So, I figured I've been wasting my time all this while and even though it's been about 3 months since I lost got any. I won't go for any fuglies. I'd rather remain without. I am past that stage in my life and just cannot go back (because when I do I feel like sh!t for being with someone like that). This is not to say that if a less attractive girl comes your way you won't give her a chance. The hotter girls are more work and if you can do the work you will find it easier with women in general.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

Also just to add, here's a little home truth:

Ugly/average girls = Nasty *****es, backstabbers, head issues
Pretty/hot girls = Nice people, genuine, fun

The only nasty rejections I ever got were from average girls, all the ones who tried to **** with my head were average girls. Good looking girls are better in EVERY way, looks AND personality. Believe me...

 

[f283000]

Also just to add, here's a little home truth:

Ugly/average girls = Nasty *****es, backstabbers, head issues
Pretty/hot girls = Nice people, genuine, fun

This couldn't be further from the truth. Women are messed up in the head throughout the looks scale!

 

[st_99]

Ugly/average girls = Nasty *****es, backstabbers, head issues
Pretty/hot girls = Nice people, genuine, fun

lol, thats a good one. the laws physics are against what you are saying simply because pretty girls are treated differently from the day they are born. they are corrupted from the start.

 

[Scars]

I would say practice on lower scale woman, but there's absolutely no point if there is not some sort of sexual attraction. Meaning, you don't have to go for the gorgeous HB9 super model, but you can go for the HB6.5 who is a little chunky, but still has some nice curves and is still defined as "fvckable". We men use a HB1-10 rating system sometimes, and I find myself using it sometimes too.. but what it all boils down to is: I would sex her, or I would not sex her. Simple as that. Go for girls you genuinely want to sleep with, otherwise it will be counter-productive.

Good luck.

-Scars

 

[PapiChulo]

I ve never hit on an ugly woman in my life. But I gotta tell you that women are all the same, driven by the same things, so its not much of difference in there at all. The only difference is how they treat you, their general attitude that comes from them perceiving themselves as below or equal to you. The hotter, the nastier. Some of the young average chicks are just as bat crazy as the hot ones, they simply demonstrate it to a lesser degree and expect less. Yet average women who has options might so delusional that she thinks she is a bloody ten, then, you gotta a problem on your hands.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

every way, even the fact that even the nice acting good looking girls know they're good looking and are stuck up about it?

Definitely, 100%...

And not many are stuck up about their looks, I've met solid 8's who were still all shy about the way they looked... All of the good looking girls I've spoken to have been very nice people. There ARE some with attitude but that's not to do with their looks it's to do with if they're "that" type of person... You get ugly girls who are real *****es in "that" sort of way, it's hard to explain, but basically I mean the loudmouth-***** ones.

Some have been stuck up about their looks, not crazy overt about it but they definitely have over-confidence in their appearance (these are girls I would go out with to places and they'd get wolf-whistles from guys as they walked past)... ONE bad thing about them, that's it, just one thing, aside from that? Really nice genuine people!

Now I've been friends with ugly girls too, and they were two faced backstabbers who ***** about everyone behind their back. The best looking girls have always been the nicest people in my experience.