Would you remain a Nice Guy if...

[Blaaaaat]

If you answer yes to this question it means that the main reason to change yourself is because of woman, and not change because you want to improve yourself as a person. Meaning you value woman above yourself.

At least, I think this is what poop ehr... pook is trying to let us think about.

 

[Bonhomme]

"doormat" would be a better term ...

To convey what Pook's talking about, as I read the post. "Nice guy" in that context is a bit of DJese that bp1974 and Blaaaat translated well.

nice -/-> chump

doormat --> chump

This thread is very amusing.

 

[laydee1]

Originally posted by bp1974
That's nice, but there's a particular type of 'Nice Guy' that we generally mean when we talk about nice guys here.
You would see it, because whenever you said "What shall we do tonight?", his answer would be "I don't mind..". Whenever you said "Shall we eat Chinese or Indian?" he'd say "Whatever you want, I like both". Etc, etc. He thinks conflict is scary so he'll always agree with you. Whatever you like, he likes too. He voices no opinions of his own in case you disapprove, and he always wants to do things for you no matter how much trouble.

This is what we mean by Nice Guy, and one of the purposes of this place is to help de-program this kind of guy.

bp1974

Fair enough - I get you - that sort would drive me up the wall.

In fact I had a more extreme version, he used to require me to help him choose HIS food for him...and I would be saying "well have what you like, I've CHOSEN what I like"...and having given up and chosen something for him, he would then want to discuss what was wrong with the other choices $#$%##%^%^#!!!

He is still alive and is now married but is allegedly just the same...lucky escape!

But some people on this site take the idea of being NOT a nice guy to extremes...like making C&F right down insulting or "being a challenge" or nexting a girl just because the rest of the forum think you should.

There is nothing wrong with being a GENUINE nice guy - the trick is recognising which girls won't exploit it and which will....
I'm sure the forum would love an answer to that one but I'm sorry - I don't have it.

 

[HighLowJack]

Where are you Pook? Im surprised your not conversation happy with your thread.

I always enjoy reading the latest updates from you, whether it be in some post or a new thread.

 

[SamePendo]

I would be a NiceGuy.

But, there is something called influence. Well, but if its my true nature, as I pressume it is, I would continue to be SamePendo.

 

[Pook]

I've read ALL the replies here, and they are quite illuminating as to how some people think when they're on this board. The results were predictable.

Even those people who couldn't just answer 'yes' or 'no' but had to get into long dissertations on what 'nice guy' really means was illuminating.

My thanks go to everyone who participated in this poll.

Originally posted by HighLowJack
Where are you Pook? Im surprised your not conversation happy with your thread.

I always enjoy reading the latest updates from you, whether it be in some post or a new thread.

What! Where did the Pook go? Alas!

A lot more content is coming.

 

[Pancho]

Meh...i might pretend to be nice every now and then to get some bee-hind. But deep down inside i would still be the same rotten Pancho ive always been *grin*. So my answer, clear and simple...hehe...MAYBE.



Pancho

 

[NMMWCR]

I'll be d4mned.

My answer is NO. And I can hardly believe it.

There is this real hottie I've known for several years. Not only is she super hot, she is brilliant, fun, and plays fvcking icehockey. We've been good friends for a long time. Went to war together through grad school. But it has always been just friends because one or the other of us having always been attached for the last 5+ years.

Her LTR broke it off with her a few weeks ago. I was a little surprised when my reaction to the news was "hot damn, now is your chance, champ." I remember thinking how glad I was that I wasn't a total AFC any longer. "I'll have enough sense to not become her emotional tampon in hopes she'll decide to fvck me." So I played it cool.

Didn't take her long to find an emotional tampon. I felt really sorry for the guy. But guess what? She hooked it up with him. They are screaming along in 5th gear and there is no end in sight. Because it "meant so much to me that he was there for me when I needed a shoulder to cry on." If I had stayed AFC, I'd be banging one incredibly hot and awesome blonde right now. And in AFC heaven, with all the trappings of a sappy, effeminate relationship.

But I don't regret it. I'm no longer a nice guy and I'm better off for it. Even though it is costing me a real quality piece of azz from a girl who has come to mean a lot to me. I'm actually happy for her instead of pissed off and feeling sorry for myself.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

This website has changed me a lot. It has improved my prespective on life, my attitude, I am begining to stand up for myself, I dont take **** from other people, I look people in the eye when I talk to them and I smile a lot. I have my own opinion about things. Finally I have self respect for my self and I believe in myself that I can do anything if I put my heart and my mind to it and put my trust in God. I dont care what other people think about me and I do what I want. I dont stand down to anyone no matter how big they are compared to me in size, even if it means getting a good jab in the face. I am always positive. I am learning to control my anger and taking responsibility for my own actions. I am starting to take charge of things. Everyday I seek to improve myself one way or another. Now when I look in the mirror I see a man, a man with unlimited potential. Thanks to this website and you guys especially pook I have discovered who I really am. I wouldnt wanna give it all away and turn into a nice guy just so I could get some pu$$y.

 

[DankNuggs]

I think i'd be a jerk....once you realize how you can manipulate females to get what you want, you'll do it...

You guys forget that 'nice guys' aren't really nice, they are just afraid to stand up for what they believe in, and justify their existance by other peoples' ACCEPTANCE of them...

Those who don't accept them for simply being pushovers are the JERKS...

I'm nice to those who earn my respect, i give lip service to the rest....

 

[THA REALNESS]

At first i'd probably try it to see if i get more puzzy ,but then playing nice will start to catch up with me and i'd probably die from a stroke.

 

[Big Pappy]

At first, I thought, "Big Pappy, why waste time on conjecture?"

Then, the answer hit me. It really does depend on your definition of the word "nice guy". If memory serves, the only real difference between the nice guy and the great guy, is that the great guy is smart enough to build his world so that the girls will have a better picture of what the guy is about, rather than just listen to him drone endlessly about what he likes and dislikes.

With the great guy, she can just see what he's all about. SHe either likes his world, or she does not.

So, obviously, the answer must be a resounding NO! To be the nice guy that does little or nothing to improve his world almost guarantees him a life of mediocrity. The same way some girls seek out the nice guy, they would seek out the great guy. So, I'll defer gratification until the women get bored of the nice guy in this alternate reality.

 

[Oxide]

First time i saw this post, i was scared of what my answer might be..but then i thought about all the cool stuff nice guys get to do (writing poety and cards) and pressed yes.

That was back more than a year and half ago...


Now? See, the funny thing is, i have absolutely no problem writing a poem for a girl, assuming she is very interested in me already... and in this world especially it would mean i'd be guranteed a sex buddy


The world is flawed, just like the question, Pook.

My answer to this poll today is NO. And it isnt becuase of the women. Listen guys, Nice guys do not command respect. They are not leaders. Anyone will balls would become the ruler of the world in this Nice guy land. And since that person would be me.. i would have all the power, money and respect i ever needed. The thing is, i would get the women as well. Howcome you ask? Simple. I am not a jerk. I am a Good Guy. I have all the best qualities from both the nice guy and the jerk. I have the Nice guy's assertivness and Jerk's boldness. In this fantasy world i would have it all...just like in the world i live in today.

 

[MakeItSo]

hell no

The reason I like being a **** to women is because I think it's funny. I think this works for me because I'm pretty good at building rapport and understanding women. I'm not a master, and no, I probably can't judge the situation unless I was in it. Yes I make mistakes, no I don't give a fvck.

This is the way it should be. That's why the world is the way it is today. Would I change? Only for first impressions. -

 

[TDOT]

For some girls "nice guys" are their type. So you don't change into a nice guy, you put on your "nice guy" image just for her.

Girls do this all the time. The ones who do this are usually control freaks who want to make you their puppets.

 

[Vincent]

Holy crap where did this come from (strangely enough I had already voted in it )

Man i felt really old all of sudden

 

[Attraction]

ok. i came to this post when the poll was already closed. i am not reallya nice guy. n i am LIVING in a world that pook describes. ppl around me are all for nice guy and want every body to be a nice guy. and my behavior is wat socail scientists wud call "jerkish". note that i dun put the label "jerk" on me. cuz i dun see it a jerkish. its just that i dun wanna get walked over. n thats wat makes a lot of women (most of them infact) hate me for my "jerkish" behavior. u think am gonna turn into a wimp to get laid?? HELL NO!!!

 

[sybertiger]

Two things -

1. WOW would there be a lot of competition and a lot of men buying women EVERYTHING. Thank god this is not the case, it's bad enough as it is.

2. Both men and women are basically willing to do whatever it takes in order to be sexually attractive and find a mate. Think of all the hours women spend removing every hair on their body, and styling every one on their head. Think of the time you've spent on this site.
It's genetic. Anyone who thinks differently is just fooling themselves.

 

[sybertiger]

Originally posted by NMMWCR
I'll be d4mned.

My answer is NO. And I can hardly believe it.

There is this real hottie I've known for several years. Not only is she super hot, she is brilliant, fun, and plays fvcking icehockey. We've been good friends for a long time. Went to war together through grad school. But it has always been just friends because one or the other of us having always been attached for the last 5+ years.

Her LTR broke it off with her a few weeks ago. I was a little surprised when my reaction to the news was "hot damn, now is your chance, champ." I remember thinking how glad I was that I wasn't a total AFC any longer. "I'll have enough sense to not become her emotional tampon in hopes she'll decide to fvck me." So I played it cool.

Didn't take her long to find an emotional tampon. I felt really sorry for the guy. But guess what? She hooked it up with him. They are screaming along in 5th gear and there is no end in sight. Because it "meant so much to me that he was there for me when I needed a shoulder to cry on." If I had stayed AFC, I'd be banging one incredibly hot and awesome blonde right now. And in AFC heaven, with all the trappings of a sappy, effeminate relationship.

But I don't regret it. I'm no longer a nice guy and I'm better off for it. Even though it is costing me a real quality piece of azz from a girl who has come to mean a lot to me. I'm actually happy for her instead of pissed off and feeling sorry for myself.

I wouldn't write her off so soon. Keep playing your game cooly, you may be surprised. Remember, its ATTRACTION that you will be able to generate and her tapon could not muster for any length of time. Her staying with him is probably just because she is afraid of being alone.

Besides, since when do we listen to girls who SAY why they like a guy. They are full of **** 90% of the time. Being the tampon may easily have brought you nothing.