Would you remain a Nice Guy if...

[tiburon]

I Would be myself

I would be myself .Thats being a Man. Some people confuse and believe a true MAN is an DJ but this not true. Being a MAN is part of being a DJ but all DJ do not have this quality and all MEN are not DJs. Being a DJ is an adaptation to understanding the woman better and being more succesful in our journeys. IF being a nice guy means being a MAN that instead of adapting to the DJ ways adapts to the ROMANTIC NICE GUY ways in order to be successful in your bizarre world then i would adapt but never loosing track of the meaning of Manhood.

tiburon

 

[GirlCrazy]

That's a trick question my man.

You are basically asking "If you could be a loser and still get the women, would you be a loser?"

My answer is no f-ing way. I'm gonna be who I'm gonna be and if women don't like that it's their problem. I view women as a compliment to my life not the purpose of it.

Thankfully life is exactly as it should be. The people who improve themselves daily and hold true to their inner compass are successful, and the people who look to others to validate their lives are generally not successful.

Change who you are to suit others and you are diminished.

 

[Bonhomme]

Would I put on an act just to get more girls?

No.

I don't conform to all the things most women go for as it is, so I don't see why I'd do so in reverse.

If I did, I'd look more like Kid Rock, and less like me.

 

[Helter Skelter]

Originally posted by spanky
Yes, perhaps Niceguy is too broad becaude you can get all of the women in this world but the jerky corporate f*ckers will just run you into the ground are far as trying to succeed.

I've always had the nice guy approach when running my company. My employees and patients/clients love it. Business has grown rapidly over the last 10 years. People love being treated nicely and with respect.

Being nice=being rich

You can't argue with success

 

[myfriendblu]

Hey Pook,
With further debate, I think this line of thinking and discussion is flawed. Why? Think about it - Its mans, heck, its any living beings instinct, to get from point A to point B as easily as possible. Its natural law. Are we right here? Mmmmkay, now, lets ask ourselves another question. Is it easier to be a nice guy or a jerk? Of course its easier to be nice. It just comes naturally. We want to be caring, we want to call right away when we get a number. We want to call 5 times a day when were in love. We want to talk on the phone for hours at a time. When your in love, you just do. Basically, its easier to be an AFC

We have to WORK to be a DJ. We have to TRY not to call. We have to TRY to be desirable, mysterious, to improve our game, cold approaches.

I think it all comes down to this. Going from point A to B. TO GET LAID. Its just easier being an AFC than a DJ. So, if being AFC worked, OF COURSE WE WOULD ALL RATHER BE AFC. Its easier. its much less work. It comes natural to most people.

Essentially what your asking is, would you rather just have a million bucks, or have TO WORK to get a million bucks. Of course we choose the easiest path from point A to point B. Think about it. there is no work in being an AFC. It takes HARD WORK being a DJ. Ask any recovering AFC and he can personally attest to it.

 

[MoAF]

In this alternate reality whatever evolution that had been changed so women now respond to "nice guys" would have effected the men as well. Would it be too far off to say there would be a "Don Juan - how to be the nice guy of her dreams" forum for all the dateless aspiring lumberjacks.

What a stupid question.

 

[James Cox IV pn outc]

I would change because as a player the name of my game is adaptation. I do what works and nothing else you feel me.

 

[MetalFortress]

I am nice by nature, but am not AFC nice, I am DJ nice. I treat people with respect but don't accept disrespect. A more accurate poll question would be if you could be an AFC and get chicks, would you do it. My answer would be no. Being an AFC is no fun at all.

 

[Ronin I]

To truly answer this question I would need a more detailed description on what it means to be a "Nice guy" -

this reminds me of the "good girls chreat too" thread. Define "good girl" and I can tell you if I agree or disagree.

I will tell you this - since coming to this site I no longer call myself a "Nice guy" now I'm a "Great guy" - subtle but meaningful difference.

 

[LionFox]

Pook, my answer was no, and I'll tell you why.

For me so far, the biggest pay off of this site has been the sense of peace it has brought me. I see my AFC friends stressed out and pissed off about not having a girl. I see my jerk friends stressed out and angry because of the women they are with. And I am moving through life like a stone through water. I do not try, I am just flowing in my natural direction now and I get stronger everyday, as a person.

So no, if the hottest women in the world were having sex with me every night and the price for this was my pride, my self, and my soul, then no, never.

Because a wise man said "what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

 

[DjDreamer]

To those who shun showing niceness for fear of not being succesful with women, please describe the difference between a nice guy and a gentleman?

This poll proves that refraining from being a nice guy has more to do with love of self/being yourself/pride rather than a fear of not getting laid...

 

[HappyHobo]

Hmmm

DjDreamer: "This poll proves that refraining from being a nice guy has more to do with love of self/being yourself/pride rather than a fear of not getting laid..."

Amen to that brother...
This experiment, if you will, is makign a statement about yoruself..

If you chose YES, what your saying is "Sure! I'll be a nice guy to impress the ladies and get all the P*sSy I want! Oh god yes, P*sSy Paradise.. im ejaculating now just thinking about it!"
You may know this guy by the uncontrollable hormonal driven guy.
Women are his life.
If you chose NO, what yoru saying is,"Knowing that i wont get the ladies I will still strive/continue on being a DJ. From being a DJ i will have more testosterone than the Nice Guy and thus, i will be more motivated and ambitious for my goals and passion in life."

Knock Knock! Whose there? It's a packaged delivery of success and prosperity for the DJ!!

YESS!!! IT'S HERE! WHEN LIFE IS THIS GREAT WHO NEEDS WOMEN!! I KNOW I DON'T!!!!! *wink*

__________________________________________________
Two weeks later....

Hmm who should I pick to go out with tonight....
So many girls and only one night.
I think ill go with Teresa. She's great to be around and like no other girl i have been with! Off to late night dancing and karaoke singing we go! YEAH!!!


Narrator: The herd of women made their way to the fellow DJ and is attracted by his passion and positive outlook on life.
Teresa sees DON as marriage material and proposed to him and Don accpeted and they lived happily ever after on a house on the prairie.

This Concludes The Episode of a dj in a nice guy world.
(true story!)

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by marqZAL
I think when you have a women who really desires you and treat you well and you desire her back, her ultimate reward is you being nice to her. When I say nice, you should treat her the way you want to be treated. If you want to be treated like the best, and she proven herself and treats you like a king...why not go that extra mile.

I got new found respect for you.

 

[iqqi]

pook, what are you up to?

 

[Kodiac]

If i was a nice guy - i wouldn't get the woman i desired.

Why, because i am a nice guy ;
Being a nice guy i would find one woman and let her push me around, loose my individuality, let her control me and the relationship and i'd be totally pusssy whipped yet i would never think twice about any of it.
I'd be completely passive within the relationship and see nothing wrong with this.

NO, i am better than that. Id create a new saying in this new world... "Even Dj's can get the pusssy"
But ill be damned if i loose who i am for the sake of some 'extra' women!

 

[Ar7]

Originally posted by Pook
Be honest.
Would you remain a Nice Guy if you were in this alternate world?

If you want the azz there is not much choice is there?

Just out of curiousity, are you in love? Have you met such a woman Pook?

Topic aside: I have learned to become a fair person, If the gal is already nice to me, it is only fair to be nice back to her. Thats not to say I am letting my guards down. If they treat me bad or If they respond better if I am bad to them then bad they shall be treated. IMO we are all being too consumed on the nice vs bad logics, there is the middle ground that most of us fail to see.

AFC leaves you miserable, no questions asked.

Being Bad leaves you still miserable, you might get more azz than AFC would but still your whole life revolves around hatred. Not particularly healthy is it now?

I m beginning to think, true containment/satisfaction/peace could be found somewhere between the two extremes.

Thus brings about the topic of a GREAT MAN standing on much higher grounds than AFCs and BAD boys.

GREAT MAN will excel in this world as well as Pook's imaginary world, GREAT MAN excels in any world.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

The only problem with this senerio, becoming AFC takes away from other areas in your life, in which, being a DJ helps nuture -- Working out, advancing the career, advancing in school...these all take time the average AFC doesn't have because the AFC's free time is put into writing poetry, hour long phone conversations, putting his woman on a pedestal.

The life of a DJ doesn't revolve around women only. Many of the men on this board fail to remember that. A DJ has many facets of his life that are in balance, thus, a successful, polished, independant man will attract the best woman available.

I see nothing wrong with acting sappy, writing poetry, having candle light dinners - I equate many of these things to the romantic aspect of DJing that many on here would flame on. Albeit, you find the "right" woman. These "nice guy" characteristics are reserved for your wife/soulmate/partner in crime.

Funny to think that in Pook's alternate world, rather than the DJ discussion board, there would be AFC Discussion boards on how to write poetry, how to send flowers, how to put your woman on a pedestal, how "oneitis" is a good thing and "nexting" is bad.

Reminds me of the Seinfield alternate universe episode.
haha!

 

[dietzcoi]

The question is flawed - fantasy worlds do not exist.

I think he is trying to find out how many of you would vote yes to find out how many of us are still deep down AFC.

Those who voted YES - bad news, you are still AFC deep down.

Not a single one of us should have taken his bait and voted YES.

Disgraceful.

Dietzcoi

 

[assasin]

Your question would imply that there are two sides to the coin, nice guy and jerk. This is incorrect.

I'm not a jerk, I'm a nice person, but I have enough strength of character to take action even if that action might not be what someone close to me wants.

If I'm in a situation where I want to do something, like go playing Golf but a woman has asked me to go somewhere with her, what do I do?

Go play golf because DJ's have enough strength of character to make their own decisions regardless of a womans demands.

Now that's fine if the woman had asked me to go shopping for shoes with her. To go would make me a chump, whipped and she would lose respect for me.

But what if she had asked me to accompany her to her fathers funeral? Now do I still say no, and go play golf? That would make me insensitive and a jerk. Not just in her eyes, but in many others eyes.

There is a middle ground, where you maintain your integrity but still remain in control of your life. I choose to live there.

 

[bp1974]

If I'd been asked that two years ago, I'd have said of course I'd remain a Nice Guy - always submit to what she wanted, make her the centre of my life, do all her DIY, etc.

Now, I just couldn't give up my self-respect. Just couldn't do it.

bp1974