Women who say they want guys to show emotions

[Epic Days]

Honestly bro, answer to everything with women and if not everything then one big major part, is thinking in terms of alpha, beta. Watching AMS on youtube and implementing those principles has considerable effect on you. It won’t give you everything, you have to know pickup, but it puts things in their respective places, quick.

OP question for example. Guess what, watched the vid recently on this subject.

TL;DR bullsht, ask her wtf she means.

@Medina it’s 2nd part of the video you looking at, but it don’t mean don’t watch first part. Definately watch several videos per day, I done it differently, I ripped mp3 off those vids and listen to them on my phone, instead of music, it’s music to my ears.

Ok enough with the videos. That’s someone telling you what she means.
This stuff doesn’t have to be forced into you. This is standard masculine state stuff.

 

[Who Dares Win]

They basically want hot guys to show commitment to them.

None of us show emotions toward those we want nothing to do with.

None of us get mad at a homeless people that insult us outside a shop, we simply ignore him.

 

[backseatjuan]

They basically want hot guys to show commitment to them

It’s more sinister. They are insecure, and they want control. Essentially they are damaged, like afc’s.

 

[Epic Days]

How did this get to the point of “They’re damaged.”
When a woman is being a woman around men, they are made to manipulate. That’s how they survive.

The man she can’t manipulate fully is the one she aches for. If you go out there and put your head on a chopping block and say her...chop away...you earned everything you get.

 

[Trump]

This thread is older but anyway...some good responses.

Women can’t overpower men physically so they have to resort to emotional and psychological methods to get power over men.

So if a man doesn't show any emotions or vulnerabilities, she has no way to get power over him. What leverage does she have? She going to beat him up?

Women who say they want men to show emotions is so they can get leverage and use it against them when the time is ripe. Tell your emotions to the actresses you are in love with while you are watching a movie. Do not expose anything to the real life women you are sleeping with.

Remember men, to be successful with women, keep your emotional distance.

 

[Epic Days]

I like having a really good connection with a woman. Until you can have a deep, sensual connection with a woman yet still separate and divide your mind, you either have to be emotionally unavailable or turn into a wuss and fall into love.

The ability to go inspiring and very intimate (at an emotional level), is the goal. Just separating your mind is the lazy way but I know that passives have to.

If you want to open up a woman’s very dirty, slutty side each and every time, no matter who or what she is, you have to learn where your zone lays. Finding it has some risks depending upon her manipulation skills. If she goes distant, you help her do it by doing absolutely nothing. You don’t get on the forum and ask why. You call up Betty and go do something with her. Or go find a replacement. Nothing brings a woman to your bed like when it’s already being occupied by another.

Don’t ever yell at a woman who tries to. Anger is a stupid emotional level of you can’t turn it into something creative. Chewing her out for disrespecting you is the last resort because you’re a pvssy. You let it get to that point. It’s not really her fault at the base. It’s yours.

 

[Robert28]

How did this get to the point of “They’re damaged.”
When a woman is being a woman around men, they are made to manipulate. That’s how they survive.

The man she can’t manipulate fully is the one she aches for. If you go out there and put your head on a chopping block and say her...chop away...you earned everything you get.

This is one of the harder lessons I’ve had to learn.

 

[AttackFormation]

Ok, I have had female emotional tampons. When they are significantly lower smv it does turn them on because it's almost like God became Man messiah thing and you become accessible to them. When they are equal or higher smv they permanently put you in th friendzone and nothing can get you out, even massive displays of status and hotter women.

In general, when women say they want something you have to filter it through the ideal man doing it. So like when they say they like skinny lean guys they mean the good looking ones that are 6'3", same with vulnerability from a might higher smv guy.

Does this "significantly lower smv" stop being the case in her mind if she understands you find her arousing and desirable, or is it inherent to her selfesteem and how her peers see you two regardless of what you feel?

That depends entirely on attachment style. I am the most vulnerable non-judgmental guy and it is very attractive to women, yet I lose out in love triangles to lower value more aloof men constantly. Granted I believe the bond I have with women is deeper but it's it's certainly not a best practice for entitled and insecure American women generally.

Rather than the perspective of liability and compromise one could have the perspective of screening and acceptance, if she loses attraction because you bond with her it simply means your attachment styles were incompatible. Not every person has an attachment style fit for a mutually invested relationship (I know I'm not telling you any news lol, just saying).

They basically want hot guys to show commitment to them.

A woman's dream is the hot popular player, who commits to her.

This thread is older but anyway...some good responses.

Women can’t overpower men physically so they have to resort to emotional and psychological methods to get power over men.

So if a man doesn't show any emotions or vulnerabilities, she has no way to get power over him. What leverage does she have? She going to beat him up?

Women who say they want men to show emotions is so they can get leverage and use it against them when the time is ripe. Tell your emotions to the actresses you are in love with while you are watching a movie. Do not expose anything to the real life women you are sleeping with.

Remember men, to be successful with women, keep your emotional distance.

I basically agree, but would draw a difference between showing vulnerability and showing weakness. Vulnerability from a strong man is fine, weakness from a man she thought was strong is not. It takes courage, strength or both to show vulnerability, which is why I respect when a woman shows it to me. If I did show vulnerability it would be with a woman I wanted to be with who wanted to be with me at least as much, and I would do it not so much to please her but so I can enjoy feeling a bond too. I would apply the principle I like of "less is more".

 

[flowtheory]

Very difficult to not become manipulated by your woman over time. Looking back on some relationships i would have done it time and time again. Show me one relationship in perfect rational male harmony. I’ve never seen a truly happy couple. Have you? That means both people are ardent about it. Not just one.

The only way to be with women it seems, is to always show you don’t need them.
But this is difficult for a person like me, and many men, because connecting and being open feels so good. That’s what relationship is.
But the manipulation @Epic Days is speaking about happens the second a man lets his guard down. And then then the woman takes advantage of this, leveraging that emotional state to gain power over him with her natural tactics over his exposed vulnerabilities.

I find it quite mind-boggling in so many ways that women will destruct just about any relationship they are in. And the smarter they are, the more difficult they become as their tactics are much more honed.

 

[flowtheory]

I've known several over the years. If your being manipulated over time its because the frame wasn't established from the beginning.
I struggled with this throughout my 20s. An 80% rational male dynamic is 100% better then the conventional pattern of the pedestalizing the princess feminist imperative.

Women will always test the frame again and again. Many men can establish perfect frame in the beginning, only to be broken down somewhere down the line. But this is mostly because people asa whole become complacent.
Frame is like maintaining a car; there’s always upkeep in fortifying it. Becoming comfortable is the detention of it. But that’s the struggle within relationship and natural human tendency.

That feeling of connectedness is one sided. I promise you its not shared. I find the alternatives are much more fulfilling. Challenging sarcastic and playful verses open connected and feel good.

I think connectedness comes and goes. On a Sunday both people could feel deeply connected, then when seeing each other again on Tuesday it’s different; mostly because women are so emotional, so it’s always fleeting moments. I do struggle with this; women’s inconsistency.

 

[backseatjuan]

They are danaged. Mama told them man should....... fill in the blanks.

You are man. You own them nothing.



Nothing

 

[dude99]

Is this always a trap?

Some women outwardly demand this for some reason

But I don't really have any "emotions" to show

And the redpill in me tells me she will be turned off immediately if I did

So what's the crack?

It is a catch 22. Women do not think in logic. they think in feelings


They "want" guys to show their feelings.
But !!!! They aren't attracted to guys who do. They view them as weak.

Guys problem is we have this habit of needing to make sense. We want what we are attracted to. logic. Makes sense.

Women on the other hand can think they want something but what they want they arent attracted to.

They say they want a nice guy. they say they want to be treated right. Then get all weaked kneed and wet over the dude that has no interest in doing them good. Make sense ? No. Logical? No.

Remember half of what they say is blah blah blah. Just carry on and be you. The fact that she is asking for it and you're not doing it, means you are getting her emotions going.

 

[dude99]

My question is...why does showing emotions equate to needy behavior?
Why would a man automatically think wuss emotions?

Because it's feminine, and men aren't supposed to act feminine

 

[Robert28]

I’ve gotten to the point that I honestly don’t care if a woman thinks a certain personality trait I have is feminine or she finds unattractive. I am just me. I speak my mind and if she thinks that’s me getting in my feels then she can think that. Now I don’t go out of my way to spill my guts to anyone but if I like you then I’ll tell you, if I don’t then you’ll know that too. I’ve had women accuse me of being “nice”, fine whatever. I’m not going to turn into some sociopath just to get your vag tingly and wet, sounds like she has some issues she needs to work on more than I do. She needs to think better of herself and demand better, it’s not my job to play all these mind games just so she can get her panties all wet cause she thinks I’m a certain type of guy. I am a nice person, I own that sh!t, but I’m not just nice to women and I’m not just nice to hot women but hot women mistake my niceness as directed only at them, that’s fine let em think that. I’m not changing for anyone, I’m too old to learn new tricks and I don’t like being something I’m not.

 

[dude99]

I’ve gotten to the point that I honestly don’t care if a woman thinks a certain personality trait I have is feminine or she finds unattractive.

And not caring, is what she will find attractive. Not any particular trait. The IDGAF will keep her trying to make you GAF.

 

[Robert28]

And not caring, is what she will find attractive. Not any particular trait. The IDGAF will keep her trying to make you GAF.

I think that’s why most women that do stick around long enough to really get to know me find themselves almost addicted to me. They see “yeah he’s nice, he’s got an awesome sense of humor but he also can’t be knocked off his rock either no matter what I do”. Most women don’t take the time though because if they aren’t “feeling any chemistry” within the first few seconds they’ll write me off. The ones that tend to stick around become infatuated with me. It’s crazy.

 

[Epic Days]

Because it's feminine, and men aren't supposed to act feminine

That was rhetorical. I was asking the OP

 

[glass half full]

Is this always a trap?

Some women outwardly demand this for some reason

But I don't really have any "emotions" to show

And the redpill in me tells me she will be turned off immediately if I did

So what's the crack?

Yes this is as much a trap as all the other Feminist cr@p we've been spoonfed with for the last 50 years. Do "you".

 

[glass half full]

When a woman says this she means she wants to see the man express emotions she's comfortable with and that are validating to her. Since most male emotions don't strictly adhere to this formula they are repressed to avoid conflict. So you can bet your sweet ass this request is a trap because the typical female has no frigging clue about the emotions the usual male keeps entirely to themselves, nor would they care to.

the typical female has no frigging clue about the emotions the usual male keeps entirely to themselves, nor would they care to.

 

[bcude]

"Women want a bulwark against their own emotionalism, not a co-equal male emoter whose emotionalism would compete with her own. The belief that male vulnerability is a strength is a slippery slope from misguided attraction to emotional codependency, to overt dependency on a woman to accomodate and compensate for the weaknesses that vulnerability really implies.

A chink in the armor is a weakness best kept from view of those who expect you to perform your best in all situations. If that chink is revealed in performing your best, then it may be considered a strength for having overcome it while performing to your best potential. It is never a strength when you expect it to be as such."

- Rollo Tomassi

It's never black and white, we are humans and not robots. Having emotions and showing them is part of life. It's all about context and situation which gets abit confused in the thread.

Is it attractive to a woman? never.
But it's necessary to show that you're a human and it brings yourself closer building that connection, in a LTR.
The problem with saying that showing emotions is a good healthy thing is that most guys will take it literally and become emotional women showing emotions as much as possible, which is the opposite of emotional strength and being the 'mountain in the storm' that makes us men attractive to the feminine.
It should be used more like sprinkling salt on the main course than the other way around.
Vulnerability is not a strength, and especially not when a man deliberately reveals it with the expectation of a woman appreciating it as a strength.