Women find Evil men erotic and arrousing

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PlayHer Man said:
What you just said is exactly what I'm talking about. Women don't value morality in men from a sexual perspective.
I also agree with typical's post (except for the bit quoted below). I don't believe that morality is relevant at all when it comes to pure attraction. Therefore, I don't believe women are attracted to evil, either. And I certainly don't think that women in general will have their gina tingle when someone gets blown up by a terrorist. As typical pointed out, power, confidence, and a winning attitude is what matters.

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P.S Please don't talk about "Good" and Evil", morality was created by the church to control people nothing more
Have you seen the recent studies about morality among chimpanzees? Although it is too early to reach any conclusions without further study, there is a possibility that morality may be natural and ingrained in primates.
 
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Actually think there are lol.....but they're not HB9 or 10's
yeah there are women who love brainiacs. there is a category on Match.com for it. But this is really about them wanting to frame themselves as smart imo.
 
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i was on another forum when this story was breaking. the forum actually had a sub forum dedicated to finding out who did the bombings. When FBI put their pictures out there they were posted on the forum. There was one girl who doubted this kid could do it because he was so good looking.
 

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Protecting women at your own expense is one of the dumbest things men do. If there is any lesson to learn here, its that one.
I think this should be classed as THE dumbest thing men do. Not only do they ruin their relationships with other men, they open themselves up to a world of abuse from women as a result and lose face from any man they cross.

The world of men is a very stupid place and most guys have no fvcking clue how stupid they act. I get to see this on a daily basis. I have been in several different workplaces with all guys around who become friends. As soon as a woman is introduced into the pool, everyone is fighting, treating each other like crap and the majority of men are running to her defense. Off topic, sorry just a rant..
 

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Dumb thread is dumb. Serves it's purpose for red pillers one step closer to being full blown homosexuals and justifying never leaving their homes.
 

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I like how everyone forgets that the BT was a good looking guy who made a big splash everywhere. It's the same reason that fag JB is so desirable. Everyone recognizes him + good looks. It's mostly the teen girls that like him.

I knew a lot of average to above average bad boys and *******s... and even some ugly ones. Yea, they got laid a lot, because they didn't care and approached every "doable" girl out there. Not one of them landed a hot girl, and most of them got rejected a LOT. The less attractive ones barely got anything at all. Most girls were repelled by their loud, arrogant, aggressive, don't give a ****, douchey behavior. But they didn't care, so it didn't matter.

It was their lifestyle and mindset that led to them getting laid - not the fact that they were bad. They approached and tried to bed everyone, everywhere. Some were down, others weren't. These girls were on the lower end of the scale, as well, and in line with their own attractiveness. Reasonably attractive, trashy, loud, promiscious, etc. They were into the same dysfunctional lifestyle, too.

The hot girls almost always went after and approached the hot guys. That's who turned them on - whether good or bad. Of course, most were naturally bad, since they could get away with it.

Like definitely attracts like. A lot of these hot, bad girls get with hot, bad guys. Most people, however, are not limited to these extremes. They have some good, and some bad. The bad boy with a heart, the good guy with an edge... it's mostly the appearance and attitude that's appealing - for guys and girls. But more than that, how they look, and if they turn them on. Girls do get turned on by hot guys, just as guys do to them... you better believe it.

Not a lot of girls think Tupac is hot, or talk about him in that way, but Axl Rose is (or was). Those 2 are very similar in many ways, but receive MUCH different feedback from women. Tupac is also built well - better than Axl - so there goes that idea. He's also "badder" than Axl. But their women match up with their own attractiveness. Akon vs Tyrese. Others I can't think of at the moment.

If you actually talk to girls, and are appealing to them, dating them, getting sexual offers from them, that's all it basically comes down to. Hot this, and hot that. In almost every instance I recall, another guy was rejected for not being good looking enough, but I or others were considered "hot". That's all *****es care and talk about (at least initially, and for sex, before their 500 other standards come into play). Deny it all you want. :nono:
 
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I use to study the "Bad boy mystique" for years. Most of my 20's was spent trying to emulate and project this reckless persona that women just couldn't resist. I flirted with and fyucked married women, had affairs, banged strippers (one in a VIP room while she was working), didn't call back women when they needed me, I even used what I learned in psychology to learn how to manipulate girls.

The thing I learned from doing all that compared to when I was begging for scraps of attention from girls in high school is that the "Bad Boy Mystique" we are all familiar with is trumped up from media. Everyone from Don Draper to The kid from Twilight is considered a bad boy. Any guy that has a series of short term relationships, has high confidence, or a criminal record is considered a bad boy. The definition of a the bad boy is vague but it's actually quite simple really:

The "Bad Boy" is an exploitation of a guy who is unabashedly honest to himself and to others. It has nothing to do with clothes, tattoos, being violent, how many chicks you banged, or attractiveness. One thing your typical confident baddies have in common is that they are forthright with their interests AT ALL TIMES. They see a girl in a mall they really want to fyuck then they just approach her with obvious interests. If her sister is hot and he wants to screwjob her too, then he'll go for it. That guy is just being honest to himself and doing what his heart desires. He doesn't need permission from someone else because he can only answer for himself, so he does what makes him happy.

The so-called "nice guys" are actually much worst for women in this regard seeing as they are dishonest to themselves and others. Have you ever waited to long to tell a girl you were into her and she tells you "i don't want to ruin the friendship". It's the equivalent of hanging with a girl you were somewhat attracted to when you first met her but then you see her have it off with several different men in the course of a few months. After blowing so many men that she loses count and you've lost all attraction she suddenly turns to you and tells you "you are the man I've always wanted to be with".

You would feel like the king of the shyt pile wouldn't you? You know why, because she is dishonest, and she had horrible selection. Even a so-called "nice guy" can have a solid dating life with a solid selection of desirable women if he is just honest with what he wants from himself and others (we all know just as many guys who are good guys with quality women as we know a$$holes with solid numbers).

Bad boys are just as trumped up as Hollywood's romantic comedy scenarios and the Lochness Monster photos. It's all about honesty.

Now as far as the girls into the Boston terrorists... I suggest you stay away from girls who are into the murderous types of men. That's some severe psychological trauma you can't handle son.
 

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BlackEricNorthman said:
The "Bad Boy" is an exploitation of a guy who is unabashedly honest to himself and to others. It has nothing to do with clothes, tattoos, being violent, how many chicks you banged, or attractiveness. One thing your typical confident baddies have in common is that they are forthright with their interests AT ALL TIMES. They see a girl in a mall they really want to fyuck then they just approach her with obvious interests. If her sister is hot and he wants to screwjob her too, then he'll go for it. That guy is just being honest to himself and doing what his heart desires. He doesn't need permission from someone else because he can only answer for himself, so he does what makes him happy.
See, this is exactly what I was saying back on page three. You're describing a bad boy simply as someone having positive and admirable qualities.

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The so-called "nice guys" are actually much worst for women in this regard seeing as they are dishonest to themselves and others.
....And the "nice guy" isn't nice at all. In fact, the nice guy should be called the bad boy, and the bad boy should be called the nice guy. Pickup terminology is weird.
 

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lol you guys are about a year late to the party

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195834

in what i still think is my best post ever on this thread flew well over most guy's heads.

DJism in short is nothing more than masculine focused objectivism. It cut through all the bull****, all the mantras, all the tricks and tips.. i want what the fvck i want, because i want it and i don't have to explain myself to anyone nor do i have to feel bad about wanting what i want.

Note what i am saying. I am not promoting or demoting anything (though by nature i am what you would define as an objectivist), i am simply stating that DJism, is in fact objectivism. DJism are the working principles behind objectivism
DJism is objectivism. it's not about blowing **** up or slapping people or riding a bike or having tattoos. It's doing what the fvck you want to do when you want to do it because you want to do it and not bending.

I had 2 best friends growing up, all of us were black, all of us were smart, all of us were in TAG, i was the youngest by 17 days, actually one of them's birthday is in exactly 1 week. I remember when we got out of high school and I started to change. not even talking about money just, my persona. I dressed like an adult. I cut my braids off because I hated them. I stopped listening to rap music because i honestly never cared for it.

And the'd laugh at me and call me a square and sure at 19-20 they got a lot more ass than I did, also considering i was broke starting my company, but th irony of it all in retrospect is that I was more of a DJ at that time, even though I was horrible with women lol, than they ever were because I had the balls do become myself, women or society be damned. I got tired of being told what i should be and became what I wanted to be. And sure enough when the women came around their true colors started to show.

You can run a web design company LIke I do and be alpha as fvck, if you are being true to yourself. You can blow up time square and be the most AFC faggot on earth. Jobs, clothes, acts none of that make a man an alpha male.
 

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betheman said:
They dont ell you they are attracted, they scream beast...monster...hes horrible...put them in his presence and alone and those ginas will be tingling...they just wont admit it publicly
Indeed. That's why women are so f**king annoying, because they don't actually admit what they like. They make the dude seem like a horrible creature even though they get their panties wet every time they see him. You have to ignore their BS and fake talk and watch how they respond rather what their illogical mouth says.

Let me give an example: last night, I was out in the park and saw a few kids who were ~17 smoking weed. I was asking them if there were any girls around. Some girl eavesdropped and interpret it as me "looking for girls to f*ck" - so when I was leaving she ran after me angry and asking me why I was treating women so badly. The funny part she had a boyfriend who seemed like the introvert nice guy, yet she came after me looking for some action.

Obviously she was attracted to me and gave me a sh!t test, but her illogical brain told her that I was a douchebag and she reacted accordingly.

I'm 100% sure that women are attracted to narcissistic men with selfconfidence who aren't ashamed of who they are. It's just that with the media/hollywood brainwashing their illogical brains they cannot say it as it is, but they definately feel it down there. That's why they tell you that they like "nice guys who buy them flowers", they don't actually KNOW what they want. Their limbic system doesn't work the same way that ours do.
 

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Hydrak said:
they don't actually KNOW what they want. Their limbic system doesn't work the same way that ours do.
They certainly do know what they want when it comes to money.
 

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BRIFFAULT’S LAW:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.



Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit

A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male
 

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To be fair (and I just love calling people out on their irony and hypocrisy), most of us men do the same ****. Hell, it's all over these damn boards. Dumb skanks, crazy *****es, stuck up ****s, in-demand players, fake barbies, manipulators, teases, controlling / abusive women... the worst of the worst. And men can't get enough - despite claiming to hate them; all women are ****; etc - while seeking them out (and complaining about them) time and again. Same thing women are doing! And, like the women - it's because they're hot, have value, pull the right triggers, etc.

It's ATTRACTION that's not logical - not the gender, ****'s universal, my friend.
Hydrak said:
Indeed. That's why women are so f**king annoying, because they don't actually admit what they like. They make the dude seem like a horrible creature even though they get their panties wet every time they see him. You have to ignore their BS and fake talk and watch how they respond rather what their illogical mouth says.

Let me give an example: last night, I was out in the park and saw a few kids who were ~17 smoking weed. I was asking them if there were any girls around. Some girl eavesdropped and interpret it as me "looking for girls to f*ck" - so when I was leaving she ran after me angry and asking me why I was treating women so badly. The funny part she had a boyfriend who seemed like the introvert nice guy, yet she came after me looking for some action.

Obviously she was attracted to me and gave me a sh!t test, but her illogical brain told her that I was a douchebag and she reacted accordingly.

I'm 100% sure that women are attracted to narcissistic men with selfconfidence who aren't ashamed of who they are. It's just that with the media/hollywood brainwashing their illogical brains they cannot say it as it is, but they definately feel it down there. That's why they tell you that they like "nice guys who buy them flowers", they don't actually KNOW what they want. Their limbic system doesn't work the same way that ours do.
 

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floydb25 said:
To be fair (and I just love calling people out on their irony and hypocrisy), most of us men do the same ****. Hell, it's all over these damn boards. Dumb skanks, crazy *****es, stuck up ****s, in-demand players, fake barbies, manipulators, teases, controlling / abusive women... the worst of the worst. And men can't get enough - despite claiming to hate them; all women are ****; etc - while seeking them out (and complaining about them) time and again. Same thing women are doing! And, like the women - it's because they're hot, have value, pull the right triggers, etc.

It's ATTRACTION that's not logical - not the gender, ****'s universal, my friend.
Indeed.

Its because the qualities that generate sexual arousal have nothing to do with the qualities that make you like a person. This goes for both genders.

As men.. we need to focus less on being "likable" and more on being f*ckable. That's how you get the hotties. :up:
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Indeed.

Its because the qualities that generate sexual arousal have nothing to do with the qualities that make you like a person. This goes for both genders.

As men.. we need to focus less on being "likable" and more on being f*ckable. That's how you get the hotties. :up:
Agreed... and I say the same thing A LOT. Nobody cares how nice, caring, or good you are - only how "hot", in-demand, funny, sexually exciting, etc you are. Many of the same traits that are sexually attractive to the opposite sex are repelling to those of the same. So, expect to receive a lot of hate, WK'ing, and general dislike towards you. Especially when you act like a flamboyant, conceited douche rocket.

But hey, who cares what men think. Do NOT try to gain their approval, or listen to their BS. I've heard it all - by the same people who couldn't get ****, but thought they knew it all. Literally as the girls were surrounding me and not them... which is where a lot of hate and jealousy stems from, as well. Much of their contempt is used under the guise of advice... there's a LOT of down-sizing and competition behind it. Or, they simply don't like you and find you annoying.

For me, I just focus on women now.
 

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floydb25 said:
To be fair (and I just love calling people out on their irony and hypocrisy), most of us men do the same ****. Hell, it's all over these damn boards. Dumb skanks, crazy *****es, stuck up ****s, in-demand players, fake barbies, manipulators, teases, controlling / abusive women... the worst of the worst. And men can't get enough
Wrong. Most men would like a beautiful woman who isn't a lying, manipulating b1tch, but a nice and intelligent woman. There's nothing for us to like from this sort of b1tch personality. It just so happens that many hot women have this character, so many guys on this forum attempt to persevere (of course they shouldn't bother most of the time).

Men are not attracted to the arrogance of b1tches.
Women are attracted to the ****iness and arrogance of men. They like bad boys.
 

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Wrong. Most men would like a beautiful woman who isn't a lying, manipulating b1tch, but a nice and intelligent woman. There's nothing for us to like from this sort of b1tch personality. It just so happens that many hot women have this character, so many guys on this forum attempt to persevere (of course they shouldn't bother most of the time).

Men are not attracted to the arrogance of b1tches.
Women are attracted to the ****iness and arrogance of men. They like bad boys.
dude how can you not see the irony in your own post.

SANE/Normal women who date jerks aren't attracted to their ****ty attitudes or chatacter, they are attracted to the alpha male qualities that they exhibit IN SPITE OF their persona or personality

this is the same thing you just said about women. you just said it. you don't like women that are stuck up but you have to deal with stuck up women or at least weed through them if you want to date in 2013. How do you think women are any different?

this is taken from pook's be a man post

The Cycle

The Nice Guy emerges. He is tenderized and wants to shout in every woman's ear "I will not abuse you. I am sweet and good. Based on that alone you should date me." When the Nice Guy talks to the girl on a date, *poof*, the date turns into Oprah. "Oh, my life has been SO downhill from here," the Nice Guy whines. "My little girly car was slashed, I failed my classes, but because of you this day has been so much better." Then the Nice Guy goes, "Let me tell you my life story. My birth was long, hard, and painful for my mother..." Our culture has become so feminized that the Nice Guy thinks it is proper to vomit his feelings and emotions all over the place. (It's gross!) Women, rightfully, run for the hills when they hear your declarations of love.

The Metamorphosis comes. The Nice Guy eventually realizes what all the ladies want, becomes bitter, and changes himself into a Jerk. His goal now is to sleep with as many women as possible and figure out all the tricks and tactics to do so. He focuses on calculation rather then natural joy. When a woman comes, he pulls out a chart of all the 'moves' and 'tactics' with arrows and patterns. He unleashes his lap top, accesses a Lay Guide, and reviews his strategy. Time passes and once was fun becomes meaningless.

Back to being nice. He sees it now as turning on Nice Guy or turning on Jerk. "Why can't I just be myself!?" he soon thunders at Reality.

Just be a Man! There is no need to reprogram yourself. You will have the interests you have, the hobbies you have, the body you have, but you can easily become a MAN. It is all simply in the way how you think and as you think you shall become. But what is Man? Shall we have the answer? Here it is:
I don't know one freaking normal woman that sits around the water cooler adn says "damni need a dude to beat the **** out of me" or I LOVE it when Jim deals with other women


this is the attitude of this forum or at least a lot of members

I was a nice guy

I got rejected

the girl liked a jerk alpha male

therefore women like jerks

This is why I strongly believe most men when they come here need to take a break from women you are looking at women from a hurt point of view. normal women don't like this. they tolerate it for lack of better options


this is from pook's feeling down about your love life post. this is good ****

Nice Guys

Look at these guys in their relationships or in their marriages. You know who wears the pants in the relationship. These poor guys never understood the Game and are just relieved to have settled down. They are AFCs for life.

Most nice guys spend their 20's in misery until women in their 30's are ready to settle down. It is so sad to see these AFCs in such manner.

Some got a bit wise and looked at Dating Books. Unfortunately, most books make Nice Guys more feminine because they are written on what women SAY but not what they DO.

These poor chaps have no backbone! I watched my (then) roomate get a call from a girl saying that she was hungry and because she was studying, HE was to go to Subway to get her a sandwhich! Alas, he did this. This patheticness is not the exception, it is the common.

See that cutie pie in those oh so tight pants? Most guys would chicken out in approaching her. In fact, many would go, "Run! Don't let us know that we are looking at her!" Pathetic! Pathetic! Pathetic!

Or the guy who calls the girl of his affections night after night, hour after hour? Pathetic!

When I was young, I remember a guy driving ALL the way to my house (I live out in the boonies) to return to my sister a glove. She was pleasant but didn't let him get in the front door. She said to me, "Whatever you do, do not act like that. Do not call a girl all the time. Do not act that way."

Or a co-worker, completely infatuated, follows the girl around like a puppy. The proximity is obvious. When he wasn't around, all the girls would get together and laugh and joke at him, all declaring how pathetic he was. Aren't you glad you're not that guy now?

When my sister and her boyfriend were going out, my sister was breaking up and getting back together with him again and again and again. He wised up and eventually thundered, "Listen woman! Either stay with me or go! Make up your damn mind." She stayed with him and the two married. If he was a 'nice guy' and scared of confrontation, do you think she would have stayed with him? No.

What about the guys who just sit there and wait for girls to approach them? In their mind, they think, "Please ask me out!" Guys should never count on women to ask them out.

Or in the married life, nice guys who are afraid to lead because of their passitivity. They often marry the wrong woman because they are so tender to their own emotions and oblivious to reality. Indeed, there are shmiels who's wifes cheat on them constantly... and they put up with it.

Jerk

These and the Nice Guy are but one of the same, while a Nice Guy introverts himself, the Jerk extroverts himself. While the Nice Guy is constantly passive, the Jerk is constantly aggressive.

While the Nice Guy hides his sexuality and can't get chicks to be attracted to him (but are good long term relationship material, as girls confirm by saying to Nice Guy, "You're not the type of guy I'd date, you're the type I'd marry") the jerk erupts his sexuality everywhere, gets chicks attracted to him, but can never keep them.

The jerk has no confidence, which is why he is a jerk in the first place. True criticisms sting him and collapses his spirit.

Notice how the Jerk may get chicks long enough for sex, he fails completely in life. He ends up being a janitor or something similiar. The girls he bedded with? All of them insecure little girls. It is pathetic and very very sad.

Some guys have gotten confident enough to take action, talk to girls, etc. But very few have true backbone. Even fewer then that have the Don Juan skills expressed in the articles and on this forum.

Most guys are pathetic. Most are chumps. Women simply get tired of looking and will 'settle' for who they are with. It is so sad.

But you, on the other hand, you are not a chump and are definetely not pathetic. You are a good catch. Fear not having no intimacy right now, for with your mindset and skills will ensure you luxurious intimacy for the course of your life.

Can the Passive (Nice) Guy speak of true passion within his relationship? Can the Jerk (Coward) speak of true success and true maturity within relationships? Of course not.

You are enlightened and know something 99% of the other guys do not: how to handle women. For if you don't, women will handle you.

One out of four marriages is when the woman never loved the guy anyway but just 'settled down'. Out of the 'love' marriages, most of the women fall out of love. More women then men commit adultery. 80% of relationships are broken up by women.

from pook's 15 lessons

Women would rather share a successful man than be attached to a faithful loser.

Many women do not marry for love.

Most divorces end up with the guy cherishing the woman but the woman detesting the man.

Even for long-term marriage, the Don Juan is the way to go.

The ‘innocent, nice girl’ is often the horniest and likely uninnocent.

Many women consider your looks, your career, what you can offer them, before your integrity and character.

Women are more sexual than men can even dream.

Women are not attracted to genius, only strength and imagination

Woman’s sole mission is union, either for pleasure or the fruits of children. She cares nothing for your philosophy and all except to either use it to catch interest in a guy or to enthrone herself.

Women, in sex, desire to be treated as an object and relish it.

Women place value in societal links; how they are thought of. You become her ego.
 
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