Women find Evil men erotic and arrousing

[zekko]

There is no minority of women of any kind who are groupies to engineering and computer science nerds. Makes you think, doesn't it?

I suppose you think no engineer or computer science major has ever gotten laid? Of course they have. You just don't read about it on the news. We have several engineers on this forum. Jophil was an engineer. BB runs a website business, he's a computer nerd, and supposedly used to spin them nine deep.

 

[Jitterbug]

I suppose you think no engineer or computer science major has ever gotten laid? Of course they have. You just don't read about it on the news. We have several engineers on this forum. Jophil was an engineer. BB runs a website business, he's a computer nerd, and supposedly used to spin them nine deep.

I'm talking about groupies. Comp Sci and Engineering nerds need to actively hunt to get some. I am / was a CompSci / Eng nerd (not really a nerd anymore). We get laid in spite of the low social value of our profession.

There's a huge difference between getting jobs through interviews / auditions, and getting job offers through head hunting, as an analogy. That's what I was getting at.

 

[zekko]

I'm talking about groupies. Comp Sci and Engineering nerds need to actively hunt to get some. I am / was a CompSci / Eng nerd (not really a nerd anymore). We get laid in spite of the low social value of our profession.

The groupie bit comes from the fame aspect. But I think you're underselling the social value of your profession. Most people know that engineers at least have the potential to bring in some decent money. 5String is an engineer, isn't he?

Most likely the problem with these "brainiac" type professions is that the guys studying them probably get too involved with them, using too much of their brain power on understanding and working out problems. There's not enough attention left for social things, that's probably where the whole nerd thing comes from.

I'm simply making the point that women are morally indifferent when it comes to who they are attracted to.

I agree that morality is not an attraction factor, in and of itself. But you could just as easily conclude from this story that men are morally indifferent when it comes to who they want to kill.

 

[49au]

to match the abundance of scientific theory you supply?
why do you think so many women stay with guy who abuses them? have you ever seen or heard a group of women talking about bad boys? its something they cant help but be attracted to, not every woman would jump into bed with a anders brevik but I bet that guy is being sent more porn, underwear, proposals, than either you or me.

No doubt.

Now compare the number of women who are in love with this guy and giving him these things, to the total number of women.

Get a grip.

 

[PlayHer Man]

No doubt.

Now compare the number of women who are in love with this guy and giving him these things, to the total number of women.

Get a grip.

Sure.. right after you compare the number of adult bad boys who are still virgins compared to the number of nerds that are.

Most women go to their grave having f*cked at least one bad boy. Very few bad boys (if any) die virgins. If that doesn't prove my point.. nothing does.

 

[49au]

You are trying to turn "bad boy" into "indiscriminate mass murderer". It's not.

This kid is not an "alpha", or a "bad boy", or anything like that. He's just an idiot. And so are you, if you find any redeeming qualities in him.

 

[49au]

Yes, some women do love psychopaths (or more precisely, they instinctively know that psychopaths are one step up on the evolutionary ladder, and are more able to provide significant resources and protection for offspring). I never argued otherwise.

But you are trying to extrapolate some kind of "game" philosophy out of a very small sliver of extremely disturbed women, who, in the end, aren't even worth gaming.

FYI: There are more psychopaths in law/business/finance than in prison. Most are non-violent. Not necessarily because they're morally opposed to violence, but because in simple cost/benefit analysis, it's not usually the best (or the most entertaining) option.

 

[PlayHer Man]

You are trying to turn "bad boy" into "indiscriminate mass murderer". It's not.

This kid is not an "alpha", or a "bad boy", or anything like that. He's just an idiot. And so are you, if you find any redeeming qualities in him.

Who said bad boys can't be idiots or mass murderers? What does "bad boy" mean to you? Just some guy who snorts coke and has tattoos? :crackup:

Where did I say a mass murderer has redeeming qualities? NO WHERE. All I said is a mass murderer can get p*ssy.

Not sure why you're insulting me for simply pointing out an observation. Shoot the messenger much?

Getting mad at me isn't going to make women masturbate to IT nerds bro. Take it like a man. Don't be a faggot about it :crackup:

 

[betheman]

No doubt.

Now compare the number of women who are in love with this guy and giving him these things, to the total number of women.

Get a grip.

I have a grip thanks for your concern!

the point Im making is that women are more likely to be naturally attracted to the bad boy, the evil, murderous type in terms of raw sexual attraction....that is not love...or is it? they will outwardly profess their horror at the very thought of interactions with such bad fellows.

do you know the %age of children born who are not the biological offspring of the person who believes they are the father? estimates have it between 10-30% (30 seems a bit high to me) i,e women who have fvcked other guys and wanted their seed, yes they wanted it because if they didnt they could have took precautions or aborted. now, these are the women who have givenb birth, how many would you suppose are fvcking guys without getting pregnant to the bad boys? to be very precise...quite a few Id wager!

 

[FairShake]

Women's attraction has nothing to do with your fear of "anger and bitterness" you fool.

I'm not sure what "fear" has to do with anything. But the "Girlz sux0rz" He-man women haters definitely does. I've never met a socially successful guy who hates women!

Besides, even if said nerd does only elicit one solitary gina tingle from his murderous rampage that's still one he would never have got before.

Now I wonder if YOU'RE a baby boomer. Nerds are cool! Yes I said it, nerds are cool and do fine with women. They need to take care of themselves and get a smidgen of social polish but then it's poon time. Nerds are cool, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

 

[49au]

From what I've read betheman, it's about 10%.

And I agree that some women want alpha sperm, and will find a beta to raise the child.

The association between this guy and "alpha" is what I have a problem with, as well as the ignorant assumption that because some deranged subset of women actually want to fuk this guy, there is some valuable lesson to be learned about "game" here.

There are probably far more women interested in nerds than there are that are interested in mass murderers. Obviously, nerds (or the women who love them) aren't sensationalized by the media - so you won't be reminded of that. Are even 10% of women interested in "nerds?" Maybe not. But even if it's only 5%, you'd be hard pressed to argue that even 1% actually find this type of extreme violence sexy. What women do generally find sexy are psychopathic traits (ruthlessness, fearlessness, carefree nonplanfulness, stress immunity, social potency, etc.) that are sublimated.


Listen, I fuked a woman on her honeymoon. I ran a train on a married b!tch on a boat once. I've fuked strippers. I've done all kinds of sh!t and I've seen some outrageous behavior from women - single, engaged, married.

I am far from naive as to many women's inability to control their impulses.

But I'm also smart enough to understand that the type of behavior these women are exhibiting, is atypical and far outside the bounds of normal - which means I shouldn't give a sh!t about it.

If you're honestly that desperate to get a woman that you idolize an indiscriminate mass murderer, be my guest. But as another poster explained, the sexual marketplace is a great big place, with room for all kinds of people. You don't have to be a psychopath to get laid, or - GASP - to find and actually keep a woman that adds value to your life.

 

[49au]

This thread really exposes one of the core problems of so many men on this forum - they fail to understand that perception becomes reality. If all you do is fuk with or discuss these Cluster Bs, psychos, gutter hors, and girls whose uncles touched them one too many times, you will lose sight of the fact that there are plenty of women who aren't even remotely like these women.

Some of the idiots on this forum act as if ALL women conform to the mold of AW, c0ck guzzling, branch swinging, mentally disturbed psychopaths that we all love to focus on. You can become so single-minded, so immersed in this culture, that you turn into a raving, paranoid, misogynist lunatic.

Honestly, not everyone is that fvcked up. Garbage in, garbage out.

Obviously I'm not saying that there aren't terrible women out there. Our society especially, is teeming with them. That doesn't mean all women are horrible. Most are even more lonely, insecure, and terrified of never finding "love," than many of the men on this forum.

Threads like this are not only silly; they're actually damaging to men because they just enable you with excuses and justifications as to why you aren't as successful with women as you'd like. They distract you from the real issues.

 

[( . )( . )]

I'm not sure what "fear" has to do with anything. But the "Girlz sux0rz" He-man women haters definitely does. I've never met a socially successful guy who hates women!

Neither have I. But that's a commendable 2nd effort from you to shut down and win an argument .

Nerds are cool! Yes I said it, nerds are cool and do fine with women. They need to take care of themselves and get a smidgen of social polish but then it's poon time. Nerds are cool, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

Ok when your no longer able to converse as a man and begin talking like a woman we got a problem.

Regroup and try again without the unrelated strawman non-logic.

Remember your here because you got a tad uncomfortable over a bunch of us saying chicks get wet over killers. Back it up mate, stay the course fairshake, STAY THE COURSE!!.

 

[PlayHer Man]

This thread really exposes one of the core problems of so many men on this forum - they fail to understand that perception becomes reality. If all you do is fuk with or discuss these Cluster Bs, psychos, gutter hors, and girls whose uncles touched them one too many times, you will lose sight of the fact that there are plenty of women who aren't even remotely like these women.

Some of the idiots on this forum act as if ALL women conform to the mold of AW, c0ck guzzling, branch swinging, mentally disturbed psychopaths that we all love to focus on. You can become so single-minded, so immersed in this culture, that you turn into a raving, paranoid, misogynist lunatic.

Honestly, not everyone is that fvcked up. Garbage in, garbage out.

Obviously I'm not saying that there aren't terrible women out there. Our society especially, is teeming with them. That doesn't mean all women are horrible. Most are even more lonely, insecure, and terrified of never finding "love," than many of the men on this forum.

Threads like this are not only silly; they're actually damaging to men because they just enable you with excuses and justifications as to why you aren't as successful with women as you'd like. They distract you from the real issues.

You can believe all the "feel good" sh!t you want bro.

The bad boy trumps the nice guy when it comes to sex appeal. Its not really debatable. Its even become a part of pop culture in many movies. Its clearly a very OBVIOUS thing. Telling yourself otherwise doesn't make it less valid. Ignoring truths that don't sit well with your world view won't make those truths false.

If we're going to be totally honest.. most men on this site are discussing what types of men PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE women go for.

So there are probably lots of whales, freaks, cross eyed chicks and amputees who might get SO HOT for a computer geek or a Walmart cashier. But no one is talking about those women because no one wants to f*ck them.

HB7's and up are all we really talk about and most of those women go to their grave having f*cked at least ONE bad boy in her life. Likewise.. few (if any) bad boys have a hard time getting laid or die virgins. The only logical conclusion that can be drawn from that is bad boys are MORE attractive.

Look at a man like Jay-Z vs. Mark Zuckerberg. Who do more women get wet over? They are both ugly, famous and rich..so you can't claim looks, fame or money advantage. I bet more women want to f*ck Jay-Z than Mark-Z. He is more "bad boy" then Mark. CASE CLOSED.

 

[49au]

You continue to twist my words and pretend that I'm saying women aren't attracted to "bad boy" traits. I explicitly said they are attracted to psychopathic tendencies that are sublimated. A very small minority of women are attracted to mass murderers (naked psychopathy, and quite useless IMO), these are an insignificant subset that should qualify as much within the fringe element as women who love a man as pathetic as Flava Flav. These are the statistical outliers who shouldn't even figure into our view of women as a whole.

I can find you women who midgets, does that mean that all women secretly want midgets now? I can find you women who want to let their 14 year old students fuk them, does that mean all women are secretly pedophiles too?

If you're interested in having an honest discussion about it, I'm game.

But you're either purposely misconstruing what I'm saying because you have no intelligent answer for it, or you just flat out don't get it. In either case, not gonna waste any more time.

 

[plate's_empty]

. I bet more women want to f*ck Jay-Z than Mark-Z. He is more "bad boy" then Mark. CASE CLOSED.

That's a whole nother debate right there. Penis size might have something to do with that one.

But yeah, in some circles (small ones), Zuckerberg is a rock star to them.

IMO being a bad boy is another sort of game. But for the extreme bad boys, the sane chicks aren't going to stick around after they realize that hey, this guy really does do bad sh1t. Survival instincts come into play eventually.

Edit: changed my mind on the next part, bad example.

 

[Zunder]

There is way too much credit being given here by a couple posters that think women have the capacity to not be attracted to bad boys, psycho's, nut jobs etc. Swallow the pill and understand this: Women are capable of lusting after the worst dregs that society produces. And not just some women, a significant percentage.

 

[zekko]

This thread really exposes one of the core problems of so many men on this forum - they fail to understand that perception becomes reality. If all you do is fuk with or discuss these Cluster Bs, psychos, gutter hors, and girls whose uncles touched them one too many times, you will lose sight of the fact that there are plenty of women who aren't even remotely like these women.

Some of the idiots on this forum act as if ALL women conform to the mold of AW, c0ck guzzling, branch swinging, mentally disturbed psychopaths that we all love to focus on. You can become so single-minded, so immersed in this culture, that you turn into a raving, paranoid, misogynist lunatic.

Totally agree, but the PUA Community/manosphere is so invested in spreading this sort of thing that they will accuse of using NAWALT if you point it out.

Seriously, I don't know how many damaged women there are like this, what percentage they make up, and to honest I don't even care. This sort of woman isn't even on my radar, I could care less what they do because I wouldn't give them the time of day. This is why you screen.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Totally agree, but the PUA Community/manosphere is so invested in spreading this sort of thing that they will accuse of using NAWALT if you point it out.

Seriously, I don't know how many damaged women there are like this, what percentage they make up, and to honest I don't even care. This sort of woman isn't even on my radar, I could care less what they do because I wouldn't give them the time of day. This is why you screen.

This is a pretty ignorant comment. It suggest that you have mind reading abilities. :crackup: :crackup:

For all you know, every woman you ever dated has fingered her snatch to Tony Soprano. How many former sluts try to act "proper" in their late 20's to get a good man? How many women f*ck the mail-man and tell their husband its his? How would you know unless they get caught? How many women cheat and never get caught? A LOT.

As another poster pointed out.. most sociopaths are not in prison. They are working in offices, driving school buses, preaching in churches, cooking in restaurants, etc. If you are stupid enough to think anyone who doesn't ACT on evil thoughts totally lacks them, then you're pretty stupid.

You are very naive about women my friend .

 

[betheman]

Totally agree, but the PUA Community/manosphere is so invested in spreading this sort of thing that they will accuse of using NAWALT if you point it out.

Seriously, I don't know how many damaged women there are like this, what percentage they make up, and to honest I don't even care. This sort of woman isn't even on my radar, I could care less what they do because I wouldn't give them the time of day. This is why you screen.

there are lots of damaged women out there, I dont know how many either, most of them are probably married to white knights who think they have saved some poor lady from a life of tyranny!
of course no one wants to be with those damaged women knowingly, nor do most right thinking women want to settle with psychos, evil men. that doesnt stop the attraction though