women don't want jerks, they want winners

[learningdaily]

To think that women want jerks, rather than nice guys, is an unsophisiticated notion. They want WINNERS. All people are simply attracted to winners - those that are the best at whatever they do, and who carry themselves as winners.

The only reason other men think that guys who are successful with women are jerks, is because most of us are jealous of the "jerks," and feel threatened by their confidence.

Maybe some of those guys who are consistently successful with women are jerks, but what all those DJs have in common is that they are winners, or at the very least, PERCEIVED by women to be winners.

On the flip side, women are turned off by losers, not necessarily nice guys. Losers are guys who don't aim to fulfill their potential, and do nothing but whine about their unfortunate situations, rather than make improvements. Women can spot them a mile away because they have slumped shoulders, talk into their chest, and are always second guessing themselves.

Jerks never put forth this image of low confidence. Their problem is that they often come off as overconfident, which earns them the label of jerks. However, some women fall foolishly for this facade, and often regret this mistake in the long run.

Many AFCs see this success jerks have with women, and think they should imitate it. What AFCs fail to see is that there are many nice guys who do quite well with women, because they are winners, and exude confidence.

The moral of the story is, don't aim to imitate those guys you perceive to be jerks. Striving to be a jerk is a very low, pathetic goal, not only in the realm of attracting women, but in life in general.

Instead, aim to be a winner. Whatever it is you do, do it the best that you can, and be proud of your success.

Be in the best shape you can be. Allow yourself to be as clever, fun-loving and carefree as possible. Be as educated as you can be. Find a look that works best for you, and groom yourself as nicely as possible to maintain that look. Keep your apartment and clothes as clean and as up to date as you can. Stand tall, keep your chin up and always make eye contact. Be a gentleman (hold doors, listen, etc.) to women.

None of these things are really revelations. Just be all you can be. You'll find that when you do all of these things, your confidence will grow whether or not you immediately have success with women, because you will feel much better about your mind, body, spirit and setting.

When you improve all of these areas in your life, you create an aura of success and winning, which is transmitted to women as an image of confidence. At that point, you'll find, women will start making moves ON YOU.

Finally, if you're a nice guy, don't imitate other guys and be a jerk. Be a nice guy that's also a winner, and be proud that you're a nice guy.

 

[DEKKA]

Tips.

Very wise words btw. Women are not attracted to men who don't care. Learn to care. Get good at something- anything. The confidence of knowing you're the best at what you do will come automatically. Don't do it because you want women, do it for yourself.

 

[Mr. Latte]

I absolutely couldn't agree more. Hall of fame material.

 

[InLawsHateMe]

Yep.... this is true.

Good points to remember.

 

[AFK Protector]

Wow...great stuff learning daily. This really cleared away the fog in my mind. Just another step along the way to be a DJ master. Thank you so much.

 

[MetalFortress]

Wow, quite a first post here learningdaily... excellent

 

[Player_Supreme]

Nice post on being a winner. But:


You got it twisted playboy. Ask yourself then why do women love jerks and let them take all of their money and run their phone up and drive their cars and take an ass whooping from them.

Jerks exhibit qualities that women are attracted to such as:

1. we don't take shyt from women
2. we don't put them on pedistals
3. we are quick to dump them
4. we don't take shyt from nobody!

Think about these few of the many qualities that I've listed...you will see they fit in with the primitive programming in their little heads to look for dominante males.

Also to use the word jerk is incorrect. Your buying into womens wordage. They call us that because they can't control us. Men didn't invent that word. Women did. And for you to apply it is to buy into their ideology.

I can't tell you how many times I've been called MEAN by women....but they still stay with me until I dump THEM! I get called mean on one breath and their superman on the next.

So don't be afraid to really examine the qualities of a socalled JERK for traits that you can use in your quest for the land of pvssy.

And of course your right about everybody loving a winner! That will get em everytime. Winners have some of the Jerk qualities plus other good attributes!

 

[learningdaily]

You raise a good point, but . . .

Are the women you're describing the kind of women we should be spending our time with? I think only a few women, usually the easiest but most neurotic, fall for jerks.

You say that many of the women you've dumped come crawling back, and seem attracted to "jerk" characteristics. There must have been a reason that you've dumped all of these women in the first place.

Honestly, any woman with a low enough level of self-respect to fall for "jerks" or "badboys," who have few positive qualities, is the kind of woman who I want nothing to do with.

There was one woman I dated last year who was like this. She was neurotic, insecure, and because of these traits, she was an abusive drama queen towards me. I couldn't take her act any more, so I broke it off. In pushing her away, I had to act like a jerk. I regret this, but it had to be done. What did I get? Months of stalking.

The more I pushed her away, the more she kept hassling me. This was one experience I don't want to relive.

Bottom line, there ARE a number of women out there who respond positively to jerks. But you generally find out that they have serious issues.

Personally, I don't need to be handed some woman's baggage, so I try to avoid women that fall for jerks. How? I don't act like a jerk.

Instead, I aim to carry myself like a winner. That will attract women who are winners.

Sometimes I end up happy, other times I don't. That's how it goes.

***A good mini-lesson in all of this discussion: If you end up hooking up/sleeping with a girl really easily, she probably has some sort of issue that will give you headaches in the long run. So avoid these women or beware.

 

[Player_Supreme]

You raise a good point, but . . .
Are the women you're describing the kind of women we should be spending our time with? I think only a few women, usually the easiest but most neurotic, fall for jerks.


1. Sorry your wrong here. A lot of women fall for the socalled jerks…again your using their word.
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You say that many of the women you've dumped come crawling back, and seem attracted to "jerk" characteristics. There must have been a reason that you've dumped all of these women in the first place.

1. Are you serious? I used to be a major player…I didn’t need any reason other than the fact that there were others out there waiting for my time. Oh before you start I only date intelligent well educated women. Look in the Anything Else for a recent discussion with our lady of nerd fashion Eileen.

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Honestly, any woman with a low enough level of self-respect to fall for "jerks" or "badboys," who have few positive qualities, is the kind of woman who I want nothing to do with.

1. Are you saying that your own mother is like this…cause your talking about the way women are programmed since the beginning of time. You need to do more study on this subject Learning. Your post is right on point about the winners but you erred due to a lack of true knowledge of this game. You must be reading one of those e-books on dating that’s circulating on the net…I have most of them on my hard-drive. High Status…Alpha Male…Master Seducer…Double your Dating…both editions….and a host of others.

2. With your last statement above...you must be young. We all have our own criteria for the women we chase.

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The more I pushed her away, the more she kept hassling me. This was one experience I don't want to relive.

1. Again your talking about basic human nature. This is a known fact that when you show a person that you find them flawed they will try to prove you otherwise. It's the whole basic of the ****y But funny thing going around the net. It creates attraction.


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Bottom line, there ARE a number of women out there who respond positively to jerks. But you generally find out that they have serious issues.

1. hahahah!!!! Most women have issues playboy. You will find as you get more into the game that women are emotional creatures...very emotional!!!

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Personally, I don't need to be handed some woman's baggage, so I try to avoid women that fall for jerks. How? I don't act like a jerk.

Instead, I aim to carry myself like a winner. That will attract women who are winners.


1. Cool! Keep stroking! But your eliminating most of the available women out there. Women stop falling for jerks when they get into their 30's and want to settle down. (let me add that if they haven't found a mate by their 30's they feel the incredible urge to settle down and they wisen up)

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Sometimes I end up happy, other times I don't. That's how it goes.

***A good mini-lesson in all of this discussion: If you end up hooking up/sleeping with a girl really easily, she probably has some sort of issue that will give you headaches in the long run. So avoid these women or beware.


1...Again hahahahaha LMFAO! Maybe the person who catches easily has real game. You've heard women say "one minute we were talking and the next minute it was as if a force of nature took over and I don't know what happened".

2. Also the speed seduction stuff is based on flaws in human nature that are easy to manipulate and take advantage of.

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Good discussion kid...you are Learning day by day fella!

 

[jbbrain]

player,

read all about the differences btw. a jerk and a "DJ" (Man) and btw. Nice guys and an AFC's..its all there.

Its just wrong to think women like the jerk because of his abusive personality. It was never the abuse that caught the woman's eye (except for those out there who are insecure and do want it..the orginal poster describes them clearly). Instead, it was the dominating, non supplicating, "living my own life" qualities that got them..and will always keep them.

Dog, not putting women up on pedistals DOES NOT make you a jerk, or an *******. It makes you a full fledged MAN.

And I agree whole heartedly with the original poster that women who fall for the "jerk" because of his true "jerkish" tendencies (abuse, full on disrespect) are insecure *****s who arent worth any man's while.

Why does a DJ or player to you mean you have to be a bad person? I'm 22, have fukked a good 25 girls, had a few good relationships, a few bad and consider myself good with women. By the time I'm your age, I'm sure I will have far surpassed your "total" of women which you probably think has made you into the player you are today.

Yet, I'm nice with them. How can you ever discount that?

 

[InLawsHateMe]

It's all cool an dtha gang...

Bottomline is whether you are a winner or a weiner, there will always be women for both parties.....

I would have posted that the first time but, I figured, someone posted something positive for a change, I'll roll with that vibe.

 

[learningdaily]

response to supreme player

You and I have different philosophies. I look for quality, not quanity.

If your way makes you happy, then more power to you. Good luck.

 

[jbbrain]

learning,

but what u fail to realize is that players reasonign is flawed. He thinks he is getting women because hes a so called jerk, when really its the "man" qualities of the jerk that is truly getting them. As he mentioned, hes not supplicating, he doesnt put them ona pedestal...bla bla bla. What inherently "jerkish" about these things anyways? Arent we taught here that these very qualities make up the so called man?

Your way "learning" is not a quality over quantity thing. The fact is, the majority of girls do want a winner. I believe its' a minority of girls who are so insecure that they feel they need to be abused whether it be physically or verbally. Who needs those anyways?

Your reasoning is right. Girls want a confident winner, not an insecure jerk who treats them badly. I know a solid crew of "players". Guys that fvck and date A LOT of women. Theyre not rude ruthles pricks. Lots of them are really nice guys. They're just macks. i wish everybody here would just understand that you dont need to be an ******* to get women. Just be the man that you are.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by jbbrain
player,

1. I'm sure you will reach over 100 very soon kid.

2. You missed my point. Which is the qualities of the so-called jerk are what attract women. I'm not talking about beating women up that's an ass*hole. What I'm talking about are those qualities that create attraction.

3. These players that you know are they honest in their dealings. I am. I let women know I will not be their boyfriends upfront.

4. I am attempting to open this kids eyes to the whole picture, not half of one that he is reading in that e-book...I've read the same shyt that he's posted...then read the opposite in another e-book.

You kids gotta look at the big picture. Not just a piece of the pie.

 

[Eternal]

Originally posted by DEKKA
Tips.

I agree...Moved to Tips.

crazykid: A dream maker and stealer of Von Neuen sayings!

 

[Player_Supreme]

Re: response to supreme player

Originally posted by learningdaily
You and I have different philosophies. I look for quality, not quanity.

If your way makes you happy, then more power to you. Good luck.

What made you think that I didn't go for quality? You've been here for a short while so you don't know me...I can understand that. You might read the post that I mentioned above then make assumptions based on evidence.

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45075

I date doctors, accountants and other highly educated people.

Like I posted, I agree with your post...your just mimicing a authors words against the jerk qualities without truely understanding what you spouting.

I can almost see the page in my head about this very subject but I can't quite recall which book it's in and its not worth it to track it down.

Also I believe the author listed the qualities of the jerk in that chapter and stated that those are the good qualities that attract women...he also stated that the bad qualties are the ones that you don't want....such as beating women and stealing...

I guess if your going to regurgitate anothers work atleast get the whole picture bruh.

 

[Eileen]

There's a huge difference between a confident man and a jerk.

The women you see falling for jerks and putting up with their crap have self-esteem issues. They aren’t worth your time unless all you’re looking for is a booty call. And even then, these are the ones who will stalk you and throw crying fits in public after you’ve done your thing and blown them off. Not hardly worth it if you ask me.

As a uni professor, I see a lot of young adults and get to watch their mating rituals a little more up close and personal than I’d really like. Failess, it’s that pretty, popular but brainless girl who puts up with the jerk. On the other hand, it’s normally the pretty, popular but brainless bloke being the jerk so perhaps it’s a match made in heaven. I do worry that they are out breeding and making an entire generation of pretty, popular and brainless offspring … but I digress.

Stop kidding yourselves. Live your life. Concentrate on doing things you enjoy and on being the best you that you can be. Wonderful women will notice and be attracted to you. It’s really THAT simple.

And don't go whining with the "oh yea this one time ..." It takes being happy with who you and not really caring what others think, for real, for this to happen.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by jbbrain
learning,

but what u fail to realize is that players reasonign is flawed. He thinks he is getting women because hes a so called jerk, when really its the "man" qualities of the jerk that is truly getting them. As he mentioned, hes not supplicating, he doesnt put them ona pedestal...bla bla bla. What inherently "jerkish" about these things anyways? Arent we taught here that these very qualities make up the so called man?

Your way "learning" is not a quality over quantity thing. The fact is, the majority of girls do want a winner. I believe its' a minority of girls who are so insecure that they feel they need to be abused whether it be physically or verbally. Who needs those anyways?

Your reasoning is right. Girls want a confident winner, not an insecure jerk who treats them badly. I know a solid crew of "players". Guys that fvck and date A LOT of women. Theyre not rude ruthles pricks. Lots of them are really nice guys. They're just macks. i wish everybody here would just understand that you dont need to be an ******* to get women. Just be the man that you are.

1. I never said I was a jerk. I said I used to be a major player. I've never robbed or beat a woman down, ran her phone bill up. I've used my mind and words to accomplish what hands of others would.

2. To assume there is a flaw in ones thinking without seeing the whole picture is stupid kid.


3. Yes you are currently being taught that the qualities of the jerk are what you want...Now your coining it just being a man. It's funny how the tides change.

The double your dating dude studied players and took an old pimp idea from the 70's about a way of being towards women and coined it and is now rich off it.

Now he appears to be doing research *cough cough* sneaking cough cough*into the pimp forums gathering even more information for his latest projects. He is truely studying the game from the top and bringing it down to the player level and making a fortune....



I believe in his new cd he talks about this very subject...you might want to listen to it and get your eyes opened!

 

[Player_Supreme]

There's a huge difference between a confident man and a jerk.

Very true doctor!

Nobody said there wasn't. Why don't you wait until grown folks are talking then you can speak.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Failess, it’s that pretty, popular but brainless girl who puts up with the jerk. On the other hand, it’s normally the pretty, popular but brainless bloke being the jerk so perhaps it’s a match made in heaven. I do worry that they are out breeding and making an entire generation of pretty, popular and brainless offspring … but I digress

Docktor Luvina...I'm dissapointed in you. This was very stupid paragraph.

Your making assumptions and generalizations. How very womanly of you.

Your assuming that the popular ones are brainless...just cause you were a nerd in school? Just cause you couldn't be one of the popular ones?

Now don't go and say you were a cheerleader or some shyt like that. Your a goober....You enjoy having the power of grades over those whom cast you out of the popular circles once.

Your slipping eileen....making quick judgements like above...tisk tisk!

Maybe you should go back to the womens forums.