Women as they age?

[Vulpine]

I'm a High School graduate, thank you.

And at least my post was legible, faggot.

legible: (adj.) 1. being clear enough to read, readable

Was the type in my post obscurred? Could you read it? Texas high school graduate? Can you read? Try reading this:

"Women get older and look for trophy boy toys because the men their age aren't having anything to do with them. Why? They are used up, burnt out, bitter, broken, whackos, have kids, got the clap, whatever. If the younger men are foolish enough to get with 'em, hey, they can have 'em."

I would say that based on my experience, over 95% of them (single ones) are like that. Sad...very sad...but true.

I was intrigued my older women myself when I was younger. It's only takes one or two to realize that they have issues and prey on the young and naive.

naive: (adj.) 1. Lacking experience, wisdom, or judgement. 2. the condition in which one does not belong posting in the "The Mature Man" forum

 

[Latinoman]

"I don't like their taste in music, their clothes, their apathy toward politics/current events, and their general self-absorbedness and lack of awareness of the world.

I'd rather have a stimulating conversation about Italy than have to listen to an airhead yack about some stupid, meaningless, BORING incident with her and her friends."

Then date a woman that is 22 or 23 and is in a Political Science or International Affairs program.

As I said...if a woman that is in her 30s or 40s has all those things you described, I can say..."Hmmmm...that's cool.". But if she start seeing teenagers (no offense, you are a teenager), then I would have to SERIOUSLY question her mental issues. In fact, I would automatically disqualify that woman from my potential dating pool.

 

[Vulpine]

To be quite honest, I was exactly the same way when I was 18. Chicks (then) my age drove me bonkers. But, it turns out, you've got to play along.

Check this thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97807

My advice to you is this: Learn to play the game and deal with the irritation now, or regret it later. You are going to waste a lot of your premium years with older (and all that "older" implies) women, in go-nowhere relationships. There was a reason they were with you and it could be potentially damaging to you. It will leave you older trying to pick up women that used to repulse you when you were their age.

Can someone give me an "AMEN"?

 

[Vulpine]

Frank, do a search for "baggage".

Older women = more experience/time in relationships
Single older women = more previous failed relationships

Why are they failing? How have these failures effected them? How will these failures effect you? Assuming they are perfectly fine, what are they looking for that they haven't found yet? Is it you?

Don't get sucked into wasting too much of your time as some older woman's FB, that's all I'm advising. You're going to think there is some sort of potential, but in the end, you're just an FB because they'll never allow themselves to get serious with a kid.

 

[Ever onward]

Man, you answered your own question in your first paragraph. How tough was that?

I find as women get older they tend to not care about their looks but why would that be?? If you want to be sexual wouldn't you want your body in great shape to enjoy sex more ?? I mean whose gonna wanna be intimate with a horny, physically un-attractive yet great personality having woman?

 

[KarmaSutra]

Frank, do a search for "baggage".

Older women = more experience/time in relationships
Single older women = more previous failed relationships

Why are they failing? How have these failures effected them? How will these failures effect you? Assuming they are perfectly fine, what are they looking for that they haven't found yet? Is it you?

Don't get sucked into wasting too much of your time as some older woman's FB, that's all I'm advising. You're going to think there is some sort of potential, but in the end, you're just an FB because they'll never allow themselves to get serious with a kid.

Cougars will eat the young alive . . .

 

[SoCalMike]

You're parroting an all too common myth that the "Today's Woman" crowd would love for guys to believe: Women reach their sexual peak around 40.

This is utter nonsense and contradicted by countless studies. Women "peak" sexually in their early to mid 20's as this is the prime period for her physicality and fertility. .

Good post Rollo, thanks for putting that load of garbage back in the myth dumpster where it belongs.

Another reason older women may be horny is they aren't getting enough sex, because they're no longer young and hot.

If I went without sex for 6 months I'd be at my "peak" too... LOL

 

[Steele]

Could you imagine:

*Phone ringing*
Wyldfire: "Hello?"
Clint Eastwood: "Is this Wyldfire?"
Wyldfire: "Yes, it is."
Clint Eastwood: "Would it be okay with you if I had a child with my wife?"
Wyldfire: "Not unless you want to lose my respect."
Clint Eastwood: "Oh, heaven forbid! What was I thinking?! Okay, I won't spread my seed wherever I please...Thanks for straightening me out."

Lol.

 

[Latinoman]

I'd almost rather not get laid then "play along" though.

I just can't take them.

And why is a relationship with an older woman a go nowhere thing?

I think the SMALLEST compromise I'd be willing to make is someone in her mid to late 20s, but I just don't think I can deal with 18-22 year olds. The community college I attended showed me they're just as ****ty and irritating as high school chicks, unfortunately.

You are not talking about just "older" (as 3-5 years older). You are talking about "OLDER" (old enough to be your mother). Huge difference!

 

[Latinoman]

Good post Rollo, thanks for putting that load of garbage back in the myth dumpster where it belongs.

Another reason older women may be horny is they aren't getting enough sex, because they're no longer young and hot.

If I went without sex for 6 months I'd be at my "peak" too... LOL

Some of them might not even be horny. Some of them might only rely on sex as a "tool", because they cannot compete with the younger women in other terms.

Now, I'm generalizing. There are some women in their 30s and 40s that are fine. But fine for men in that age group.

 

[Nighthawk]

When I was 18 I was dating a 23 year old. Twenty years later I'm dating a 28 year old.
Make of that what you will.

 

[Latinoman]

When I was 18 I was dating a 23 year old. Twenty years later I'm dating a 28 year old.
Make of that what you will.

That's acceptable. An 18 year old man dating a 23 year old woman is one thing, but dating a 40 year old is another.

38 (man) dating a 28 (woman) is perfect!

 

[Drum&Bass]

cool my thread is back and people are giving better answers !!!

I personally think that if older women 27 -36 took better care of themsleves by keeping mentally / emotionally stable and stayed physically attractive / athletic/ healthy, they would be on a somewhat even playing field as younger fit girls 23 - 26.

I just don't undestand why EVERY single woman doesn't do that (learn how to improve themselves as a lifestyle). Instead of putting all their time and effort into psychological control over men they can use the same energy to make themselves more valuable instead of using theories and gimmicks like "older women peak sexually."

*Of course i'm generalzing and I have older women as friends and they are great company but even they tell me women have a lot of issues.

 

[STR8UP]

I personally think that if older women 27 -36 took better care of themsleves by keeping mentally / emotionally stable and stayed physically attractive / athletic/ healthy, they would be on a somewhat even playing field as younger fit girls 23 - 26.

I just don't undestand why EVERY single woman doesn't do that (learn how to improve themselves as a lifestyle). Instead of putting all their time and effort into psychological control over men they can use the same energy to make themselves more valuable instead of using theories and gimmicks like "older women peak sexually."

Of course, you have to take into account that you live in AMERICA, where people in general want the easy way out. Truth is, guys let themselves go as well.

I don't know if it's good genes or what, but really, one of the things that keeps me in the game so well with younger women is that I don't look my age. I dress decent, TRY to keep with a workout routine, and haven't ran myself into the ground being in a stressful relationship. I firmly believe that being married AGES a man prematurely.

So even though both sexes are guilty of losing their physical appeal as they get older, for women that's a HUGE deal. For a guy who is successful....not so much so. That's why I keep telling myself that I don't need to settle for less than a top notch girl. My stock isn't going down.

But the truth is that even if an older woman were to take good care of herself and actually be considered "hot", she would still lose out 9 out of 10 times to an attractive younger woman. That's just how men are wired. Older, single women can throw all of this BS out there they want, but it won't change our monkey brains anytime soon.

*Of course i'm generalzing and I have older women as friends and they are great company but even they tell me women have a lot of issues.

I was talking to a friend today about a girl that both of us know.

She's 30 years old and HOT AS HELL and the sweetest woman I have ever known, but she's married with two kids. So even if this chick did ever get a divorce I wouldn't be going there. Too much baggage. It's sad to discriminate like that, but I am not willing to compromise my life as I know it.

 

[WestCoaster]

I would say women from 35 on up start to really go down hill emotionally and mentally. I recently got played by someone around 40 and have been played by these women much more than younger women. Older women are amazingly bitter, like remarkably so. A bad experience with men, or a divorce means in their book that all men are evil. They don't know how to handle their own baggage.

I work at a four-year commuter college with many young and older women. I see the transformation before my very eyes. The 18-25 year olds are incredibly enthusiastic, fun, engaging, they actually like men and don't hate them, and are very hopeful for the future. Then I meet with the 30 and ups and they (not all) come in quite bitter, don't smile very much, and are beaten down mentally. It's sad really ... and some of these 40+ are hot, hot, hot, but their mentality is not, not, not.

I used to scoff at older guys going after younger women, not anymore. That picture is getting clearer all the time. The looks/appearance/sexuality appeal of the youngsters is obvious, but I like to take it one step further: their attitudes are WAY better. Older women could learn something from younger gals without labeling them as bimbos and idiots.

Tread lightly with older women ... very lightly. If you have the option, go younger.

 

[STR8UP]

I work at a four-year commuter college with many young and older women. I see the transformation before my very eyes. The 18-25 year olds are incredibly enthusiastic, fun, engaging, they actually like men and don't hate them, and are very hopeful for the future. Then I meet with the 30 and ups and they (not all) come in quite bitter, don't smile very much, and are beaten down mentally. It's sad really ... and some of these 40+ are hot, hot, hot, but their mentality is not, not, not.

Funny you should mention this, cause I was thinking the same thing.

On Thursday, Friday, and Saturday of last week I was out with various groups of women ranging in age from 20 to probably 26 on the high end. All night we were slapping asses back and forth, taking pictures, having a great time.

The Sunday night I went out with a 36 year old chick I know, and had to sit and listen to her tell me how much work sucked that week (she's a retail manager....duh!) and how she really isn't into this guy she's dating, blah, blah, blah. The only thing that made it tolerable was the fact that I was tired anyway and pretty much just nodded my head every couple of minutes while I zoned out.

I used to scoff at older guys going after younger women, not anymore. That picture is getting clearer all the time. The looks/appearance/sexuality appeal of the youngsters is obvious, but I like to take it one step further: their attitudes are WAY better. Older women could learn something from younger gals without labeling them as bimbos and idiots.

Tread lightly with older women ... very lightly. If you have the option, go younger.

Yea, I can't wait for these 18-24 year old guys to get a little older and realize the real deal. I have a feeling they will be changing their tune somewhere along the way.

 

[Latinoman]

cool my thread is back and people are giving better answers !!!

I personally think that if older women 27 -36 took better care of themsleves by keeping mentally / emotionally stable and stayed physically attractive / athletic/ healthy, they would be on a somewhat even playing field as younger fit girls 23 - 26.

When I say..."Older"...I mean 35+ (noting that I'm 38).

I would say 30-34 are REAL bad too, because even though they MIGHT be physically in shape...their mental stability (e.g. drama) is one of the worst! The "clock ticking" mentality part. They start developing an awareness of her age and MANY have little brats (kids).

I would be honest with you...I don't consider a woman that is 23 or 24 in her prime, because she still lacks some experience in the real world (e.g. working environment), in fact, they might still have the college mentality thing going and might still developing "class" (how can a successful man take a woman like that to a CEO or BIG Company event?). But a woman that is 25-29? That's perfect PRIME "A" in my opinion.
Young, smart, attractive...

 

[Latinoman]

"I firmly believe that being married AGES a man prematurely."

I respectfully disagree.

I was married for a very long time...and I look very young. I won't lie and say that I look 28...but I certainly look 31. And if I truly wanted to look 28 or 27, I would simply have to change the way I carry myself and bingo. The reason, in my case is simple:

1- Genes (dark skin plus having family in both sides that age gracefully)
2- Social capability (I still went out to nightclubs -alone or with her- while I was married)
3- I am in shape (perhaps not 8 pack shape...but certainly have a slim waist)
4- I'm very fashionable (used to be called "GQ" in my prior job)
5- Diet
6- Great sense of humor
7- Lot of sex (last 18-20 years of my life I have gotten laid at least once a week - with the exception when I was away to a remote location)

Now...if a man is married and has a happy marriage (no worries about cheating wife, etc.)...that man should NOT age. In fact, he should look younger. Why? Because his mind is busy doing things he TRULY wants to do, instead of worrying about B.S. stuff.

Being single and without steady sexual partner can be more stressful and in a way make a man older (unless that man has zero interest for sex or has never tasted sex). You sleep less, because you have to go out "hunting". You don't get enough sex, because you are single (and without a steady woman or you have to deal with several drama queens). And you don't have time to stay in a steady good diet, because you are constantly on the go looking for women.

Now, if a man is married to a ***** or a slut or married to a woman that deprives him of sex...that man will age quicker.

In my case I had a good wife and mother to my kids. I just choose to leave because I reached a stage in my life in which I had to make a decision and I decided to live the second part of my life without her. It was the fair thing for her (although, she still not accepts that). Tough decision. But that's part of being a man's man; making tough decisions that regular people might never comprehend. For that reason, being a man's man (a TRUE alpha dog) is perhaps one of the loneliest positions psychologically speaking.

 

[Latinoman]

I would say women from 35 on up start to really go down hill emotionally and mentally. I recently got played by someone around 40 and have been played by these women much more than younger women. Older women are amazingly bitter, like remarkably so. A bad experience with men, or a divorce means in their book that all men are evil. They don't know how to handle their own baggage.

I work at a four-year commuter college with many young and older women. I see the transformation before my very eyes. The 18-25 year olds are incredibly enthusiastic, fun, engaging, they actually like men and don't hate them, and are very hopeful for the future. Then I meet with the 30 and ups and they (not all) come in quite bitter, don't smile very much, and are beaten down mentally. It's sad really ... and some of these 40+ are hot, hot, hot, but their mentality is not, not, not.

I used to scoff at older guys going after younger women, not anymore. That picture is getting clearer all the time. The looks/appearance/sexuality appeal of the youngsters is obvious, but I like to take it one step further: their attitudes are WAY better. Older women could learn something from younger gals without labeling them as bimbos and idiots.

Tread lightly with older women ... very lightly. If you have the option, go younger.

Excellent post based on real life experience and observation. This is truly an outstanding post, because of what you are sharing.

In a way, validates what I already said. I would say that generally (making clear that we are generalizing) speaking, the prime age for a woman is typically 26-29.

It is like you said, 18-25: outgoing, etc. (still have the "College mentality" going for them).

Then the 30+: bitter, etc.

That means that the other group you left out is the 26-29. Those are the woman that still young and in their PHYSICAL prime. But at the same time have reached a sense of professional and mental prime and outlook. They develop the "classy young woman". The ones that a man in his 40s would love to take to their CEO event.

 

[WestCoaster]

The big problem is society. Women in American society are taught to hate men. It's overt, covert, conscious and sub-conscious. It is drilled into their heads every day, from TV shows like "The View" to an onslaught of commercials with helpless husbands, who can't seem to do anything right. Women who like and respect men eventually succumb to the mass hatred of men based on U.S. culture.

I knew some really nice (and hot) Norwegian gals several years ago, who were studying in the states. They thought American women were incredbily shallow and couldn't understand their affinity for bad boys and in turn their hatred and lack of respect for men. Latino women also have respect for men.

My friends who are married are constantly landed on by their b-tchy wives, over and over and over, it's sad. But when they met them in their 20's, they weren't like this.

American culture has really damaged the attitudes of women.