Women are more narcissistic than men

[Bokanovsky]

Psychologists will tell you there are more male narcissists than female. I think its close to 75% male. Men have big ego's and that has a lot to do with it.

Psychology is a pseudoscience, so that doesn't mean much. IMO, both men and women are equally capable of being narcissistic. However, that doesn't mean that male and female narcissistic traits are identical. Female narcissists are more likely to be obsessed with their physical appearance while male narcissists tend to have "delusions of grandeur".

 

[jhonny9546]

You may be misunderstanding.

women are WAY more self interested towards their men.

They are in my opinion, less narcissistic towards their children.

God, a concept I very loosely believe in, replace with evolution where necessary, made women love their kids and men love their women.

women do not love you like you love them. Period. Period is ironic here is it’s the thing they want you to vanquish.

You will never get a woman to love you like you love them. Maybe if your sperm is so high quality, the sexy son hypotheses, this might be true. For the rest of us, don’t expect women to show you the care and attention you show them. That’s how it works.

They will always put themselves and their kids above you. That’s your job, to provide and sacrifice. Rejoice in it, we all have a role in life and ours is to provide and sacrifice. You might want it different, but the only woman who will give you the love you need is your mother.

To them, you are a tool, a commodity, to help her navigate the world. To you, she is an exciting plaything, an Xbox on steroids.

play the role and be the best tool you can be, you will be rewarded. When you cannot fulfil your role, you will be as vulnerable as she is when she cannot fulfil your fantasy. You see as we mock the woman who rages at men, the woman with the ugly face and fat, unattractive body. She is just a victim of evolution as the man who can’t provide. It isn’t fair but it’s life.

if you don’t think it’s fair, marry the fat ugly feminist. Break your mould and your evolutionary traits. No? Didn’t think so. In which case accept she will only be yours for as long as you can give her what she needs.

you have 200 million years of evolution to argue with. For me, I just try to do what I gotta do. It sucks, but it’s how it is.

I shouldn’t say more; it’s perfectly described. The problem arises when everything has been established: you have children, you are married, and you work well. However, at the same time, she does not want to submit to you as a man, which leads to frustration in the relationship. Also, being the "right" provider differs for each women, infact one may consider a personal trainer the right provider, while another a business man. But mostly, all women prefer someone who is the "boss" or at the "top" grades of the pyramid in their social circle. (Because women have tunnel vision).

It is not all roses and flowers. Even if you become a great provider, it can still be difficult to find a submissive woman. Too often, I see great men, especially entrepreneurs, still having to deal with women who are overly dramatic.

 

[Fruitbat]

I shouldn’t say more; it’s perfectly described. The problem arises when everything has been established: you have children, you are married, and you work well. However, at the same time, she does not want to submit to you as a man, which leads to frustration in the relationship. Also, being the "right" provider differs for each women, infact one may consider a personal trainer the right provider, while another a business man. But mostly, all women prefer someone who is the "boss" or at the "top" grades of the pyramid in their social circle. (Because women have tunnel vision).

It is not all roses and flowers. Even if you become a great provider, it can still be difficult to find a submissive woman. Too often, I see great men, especially entrepreneurs, still having to deal with women who are overly dramatic.

very well put.

I have to add, the definition of submissive is important. I think there are different areas in life we have to be equal, submissive or dominant.

The way I’ve heard it described is the woman is in charge inside the home, the man outside the home. I think that’s a good arrangement.

My wife basically leads in terms of the house, the family. That’s what a woman is for. Also socially. However, on the big issues - finances, work etc I am in charge.

I think women are experts in detail and men the bigger picture. My wife can get caught up in indecision and irrelevant things. I am often coaching her in her career - look, what do you want, what’s most important - where is the end game. She struggles with this overview perspective, but I am utterly useless at general organisation and short term planning and always flying by the seat of my pants.

 

[jhonny9546]

My wife basically leads in terms of the house, the family. That’s what a woman is for. Also socially. However, on the big issues - finances, work etc I am in charge.

This is a good point because there are people which have a "family run business" where the women also want to raise her voice.

But, also, it's not only "where" she might have her power, but also "how" she talk to the men.

 

[BaronOfHair]

My wife basically leads in terms of the house, the family. That’s what a woman is for. Also socially. However, on the big issues - finances, work etc I am in charge.

Your ol'ball'n'chain has successfully created the illusion of you having any real power(Instead of being a human ATM), and you've bought into it, in other words

 

[jhonny9546]

Your ol'ball'n'chain has successfully created the illusion of you having any real power(Instead of being a human ATM), and you've bought into it, in other words

you can move forward in the relationship knowing that women do this.
Just make sure she's not disrespectful and ticks your boxes

 

[Fruitbat]

Your ol'ball'n'chain has successfully created the illusion of you having any real power(Instead of being a human ATM), and you've bought into it, in other words

my human ball and chain has never costed me a penny. My costs are the same if I were single.

not halved - i have to be honest. She hasn’t paid 50/50. But, I pay the the mortgage and my own bills. I’m probably better off with her as she pays for food, childcare and holidays. So I’m most definately better off - and I have sechs on tap. To my specification. I am the director of our love life, something most men can dream of. Plus I get children and a legacy. Fair trade inn my view

 

[jhonny9546]

not halved - i have to be honest. She hasn’t paid 50/50. But, I pay the the mortgage and my own bills. I’m probably better off with her as she pays for food, childcare and holidays. So I’m most definately better off - and I have sechs on tap. To my specification. I am the director of our love life, something most men can dream of. Plus I get children and a legacy. Fair trade inn my view

I know one couple exaclty like you, but reverse the women and men POV,

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I took that Dark Triad test. My Narcissism
was over 90%.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

True narcissism is rare, it's a sick pathology of the mind, only about 4% of the population has it. Women throw the term narcissism out any time a guy says "no" or has boundaries, or they use other shaming language like "insecure" or "controlling". I suspect more women than men nowadays have undiagnosed personality disorders, cluster B or whatever, and I can support this by the fact that women have very high rates of mental illness nowdays. I don't know if narcissism is more common in men, but i'm sure it's higher for men nowadays, too.

Put the device down and go outside.

Bro I literally overheard women complaining about it in a coffee shop the other day.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I suspect more women than men nowadays have undiagnosed personality disorders, cluster B or whatever, and I can support this by the fact that women have very high rates of mental illness nowdays

Chicks seek out psychotherapy more often than anyone else also... Shrinks don't stay afloat by informing their clients: "You just need to stop emulating Julia Fox, who's the epitome of megacu-tery"

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I took that Dark Triad test. My Narcissism
was over 90%.

If that was an online test, it's an 'indication' that is basically worthless.

 

[jhonny9546]

and I can support this by the fact that women have very high rates of mental illness nowdays.

They might have a predisposition for it. (Given the times, it's more free now than before)

 

[darksprezzatura]

I don’t listen to women I’m not involved with complain about things irrelevant to them or me.

 

[Chow Mein]

Indeed, the same goes for people whose exes are all 'NPD' or 'BPD' or 'Psycho'. I already wrote in another thread that you attract what you are. When my dark triad traits were more obvious in my younger years, I attracted my share of dark triad trait women, but when I cleaned up my act and matured, the quality of the women I dated also improved.

It would awesome to hear how you cleaned up your act.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

It would awesome to hear how you cleaned up your act.

I wrote about that here:

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