Without sex, men and women have very little in common...

[AureliusMaximus]

Remove sex from a relationship, you will discover that 90% of women have nothing to offer men in relationships.

Conversely, remove money from a relationship, and you will learn that 90% of women won't see a reason to be in said relationship

 

[SW15]

It is said that men commonly pay for sex, either directly or indirectly.

Women will have sex with a younger guy with a elite level physique even if he is broke and can't offer her money. If a man doesn't have a great body, he'll usually need money to compensate for that.

Women do become more interested in a man's money when considering men 35+.

 

[member160292]

I had a quarrel with one of my plates a while back. She was looking for some type of financial security in the future. Specifically she said

‘So you want me to raise a child, have a job, take care of the house and provide you sexual favors?’

The sexual favors part was not something we discussed. All that was part of her assumption. We didn’t talk for weeks.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

provide you sexual favors

That last part is very telling. Sex is just a choir to her. Or she doesn't really have the burning desire for you.

 

[member160292]

That last part is very telling. Sex is just a choir to her. Or she doesn't really have the burning desire for you.

Oh she does, I just have her do a lot of kinky sh!t to fulfill my sexual fantasies

 

[Barrister]

This thread will go in a similar direction to the "Friends with Women" thread in the DJ section.

Men and women are wired completely differently. How a man processes information in a logical, fact-based way is completely different from a woman's emotion-based way at looking at the world. When it comes to extracurricular activities that are non-sexual, most men generally prefer socializing with other men due to having a common world-view and processing information in the same way. It really comes down to biology when it is all said and done.

There isn't an argument that one is better than the other, but it is certainly factual that in MOST relationships, the man is the one who is the creator of value. The woman's primary role is to provide sex for the man and care for his children. In return, she is secured by the man. So yes, if you remove sex from the equation, the whole thing falls on its face.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Remove sex from a relationship, you will discover that 90% of women have nothing to offer men in relationships.

Conversely, remove money from a relationship, and you will learn that 90% of women won't see a reason to be in said relationship

Simps incoming to call you out as socially awkward incel, wait for it.

Agreeing to your statement, i have to say that my wife earns more then me and is here for the "sex"(amongst other things).
The trick is to find that woman that thinks you are the best that she can get..... it wont be a 8-9 though.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Simps incoming to call you out as socially awkward incel, wait for it.

lmfao. Let them come. I'm ready.

Agreeing to your statement, i have to say that my wife earns more then me and is here for the "sex"(amongst other things).
The trick is to find that woman that thinks you are the best that she can get..... it wont be a 8-9 though.

Well there will always be exceptions to the rule.
Most women won't accept it, but they usually also applies the rule to the average guy with dadbod etc. and thus has no real respect for him. But you don't fall into that category as you (I assume), are well trained and got your shyte in order so she respects you.

Well...
As most of you gents here already knows; Women does applies two sets of rules for the men she dates/has relationship with which each has its own play book rules. E.g.:
1.) Average guy = Has to pay HER for everything and is nothing else but a provider to her = No certain desire for him and no certain respect for him.
2.) The top shelf guy = She will drive for miles and hours to meet up and get laid and will also pay for him = She desires and really wants him and respects him...

 

[SW15]

Moral of tbe story, get jacked, ripped and you'll be ahead of most men. Imagine if that man had a decent job with future in it?

@BPH is a great example of this. He's 29, 6'0", 205 lbs, low-ish body fat, and lives at home with his parents. He has an 85+ lifetime notch count and he's achieved that living in Wilmington, DE. Wilmington is a mid-sized metro that sits in the shadow of Philadelphia.

There isn't an argument that one is better than the other, but it is certainly factual that in MOST relationships, the man is the one who is the creator of value. The woman's primary role is to provide sex for the man and care for his children. In return, she is secured by the man. So yes, if you remove sex from the equation, the whole thing falls on its face.

Without sex, the man's creation of value is typically simping. He's giving her money and not getting much for it.

The woman from the thread below gives no sex to thousands of men yet receives payment for breast and butt pictures on OnlyFans and also boosts her follower count on Instagram for it. She makes more money from thousands from men than she did from married couples when she operated a home cleaning business.

Post wall average 39 year old woman making 500K a year on OnlyFans for mild content...sad state of men

So disgraceful dudes are that thirsty these days they would pay to see mild content from an average looking post wall 39 year old woman... What the hell is wrong with these dudes? https://news.yahoo.com/meet-family-behind-texas-thighs-083012479.html

www.sosuave.net

 

[SW15]

But eventually, guys have to stop blaming other people for their failures. If the guy is undesirable, he can't expect burning s3xual desire from a average to good looking woman. He needs to fix it

Yes and no. Self-improvement initiatives are worth doing but they can only go so far.

 

[BPH]

he's achieved that living in Wilmington, DE. Wilmington is a mid-sized metro that sits in the shadow of Philadelphia.

Technically it's Wilmington, but the development is in the suburbs closer to Newark and Hockessin. Basically I don't live in the fun, population-dense part of Wilmington.

 

[SW15]

Technically it's Wilmington, but the development is in the suburbs closer to Newark and Hockessin. Basically I don't live in the fun, population-dense part of Wilmington.

It's also worth pointing out that the fun, population-dense part of Wilmington also doesn't compare well to the fun, population-dense parts of Philadelphia, which is only 35 miles away from Wilmington.

That fact you pointed out also makes your story more impressive.

 

[The Duke]

A healthy minded guy with money won't be satisfied by sex alone. And a healthy minded woman with sex appeal won't be satisfied with money alone.

Although I won't disagree with the money/sex concept, I will say there is much more to it. A man that thinks this is what relationships are all about will struggle, I've seen it with a good friend of mine. Its a very mechanical/robotic/transactional mindset.

Women also find confidence, leadership, laughter, fun, security, looks, passion for life, compassion, how you treat people, how you make them feel, who you are as a person very attractive.

 

[Gamisch]

Moral of tbe story, get jacked, ripped and you'll be ahead of most men. Imagine if that man had a decent job with future in it?

Yes! I can post a picture from a woman with the goal that everyone will say " she's hot".

She'll probably hit the gym hard. A hot body will compliment everything else about her.

Perhaps you're being cynical but its just facts.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

I *just* got off a flight home.

My seat mate was a tall, fit, muscular (think wide receiver) build who was wearing a custom suit, was handsome, and wealthy. He was flying here to join his wife of almost 30 years for a gala & charity event. He has 2 daughters, one a 26 year old investment banker, the other a 17 year old high school senior next year who is an intern at his property and investment company. The younger daughter wants to learn dads business and take the reins at the firm in a number of years. He and his wife play racquet sports, they love pickle ball. They work out or play together 6 times a week.

She is a mergers & acquisitions specialist at Merrill Lynch.

Think they have nothing to talk about? Think again.

You guys who think in this black & white one dimensional way are yourselves too black & white. To one dimensional.

I mean what if you have a best friend and intellect that you find stimulating and oh by the way she is fit and beautiful and you can enjoy sex together too?

That’s exactly what this man on the plane is married to. That’s exactly why my fiancé chose me too.

But the happy successful long term men are not well represented here. Why would they be? Men like my fiancé and like my seat mate today don’t need to be here.

But I assure you these men exist. And they are sophisticated and nuanced in how they relate to the world. Not black & white one dimensional thinking.

We had a mentally stimulating conversation about finance, real estate, economic prognostication going on in the media and personal interests.

Until some of you guys develop into better people the top women will not see you. It’s not about being jacked. It’s about being a man fulfilling his potential in a well rounded way.

Top women won’t give you the time of day otherwise.

 

[Gamisch]

Advice from the old lady:

I *just* got off a flight home.

My seat mate was a tall, fit, muscular (think wide receiver) build who was wearing a custom suit, was handsome, and wealthy. He was flying here to join his wife of almost 30 years for a gala & charity event. He has 2 daughters, one a 26 year old investment banker, the other a 17 year old high school senior next year who is an intern at his property and investment company. The younger daughter wants to learn dads business and take the reins at the firm in a number of years. He and his wife play racquet sports, they love pickle ball. They work out or play together 6 times a week.

She is a mergers & acquisitions specialist at Merrill Lynch.

Think they have nothing to talk about? Think again.

You guys who think in this black & white one dimensional way are yourselves too black & white. To one dimensional.

I mean what if you have a best friend and intellect that you find stimulating and oh by the way she is fit and beautiful and you can enjoy sex together too?

That’s exactly what this man on the plane is married to. That’s exactly why my fiancé chose me too.

But the happy successful long term men are not well represented here. Why would they be? Men like my fiancé and like my seat mate today don’t need to be here.

But I assure you these men exist. And they are sophisticated and nuanced in how they relate to the world. Not black & white one dimensional thinking.

We had a mentally stimulating conversation about finance, real estate, economic prognostication going on in the media and personal interests.

Until some of you guys develop into better people the top women will not see you. It’s not about being jacked. It’s about being a man fulfilling his potential in a well rounded way.

Top women won’t give you the time of day otherwise.

Although you do have a point this is still a site for men that philosophize about the struggle of male /female dynamics. The more vanilla way of thinking can be found on R/ relationship. A thread title like this one won't be appreciated, or even approved.

But the term " being jacked" to me as a man refers to "not being a couch potato " ,or " getting shyte done". Its rather about a transformation, about making things happen instead of letting things happen.

Even in your example the couple work out a lot. On my university campus sport was heavily stimulated. A byproduct is better health / looks. Maybe that's even the very end ,the least important. Especially looks.

I wanna make this clear to everyone; being jacked refers to you as a man looking to what you are physically capable of. And thus mentally. About discipline and goals.

To add to your post; you can use this mentality on every area of life. To become a around fully fulfilled happy man. Put in the work and reap the result. Taking life by the balls for every AFC can start today in a random gym.

 

[Murk]

I wanna make this clear to everyone; being jacked refers to you as a man looking to what you are physically capable of. And thus mentally. About discipline and goals.

Being jacked is minimum 3 years of solid gym and nutrition, being considerably more muscular than everyone else, one of the bigger guys in a gym, looking muscular with clothes on rather than without.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Advice from the old lady:

I *just* got off a flight home.

My seat mate was a tall, fit, muscular (think wide receiver) build who was wearing a custom suit, was handsome, and wealthy. He was flying here to join his wife of almost 30 years for a gala & charity event. He and his wife play racquet sports, they love pickle ball.

Top women won’t give you the time of day otherwise.

Pickleball:

Check out the aggro granny on the upper right. If you apply yourself, anything is possible.

 

[member160292]

Advice from the old lady:

I *just* got off a flight home.

My seat mate was a tall, fit, muscular (think wide receiver) build who was wearing a custom suit, was handsome, and wealthy. He was flying here to join his wife of almost 30 years for a gala & charity event. He has 2 daughters, one a 26 year old investment banker, the other a 17 year old high school senior next year who is an intern at his property and investment company. The younger daughter wants to learn dads business and take the reins at the firm in a number of years. He and his wife play racquet sports, they love pickle ball. They work out or play together 6 times a week.

She is a mergers & acquisitions specialist at Merrill Lynch.

Think they have nothing to talk about? Think again.

You guys who think in this black & white one dimensional way are yourselves too black & white. To one dimensional.

I mean what if you have a best friend and intellect that you find stimulating and oh by the way she is fit and beautiful and you can enjoy sex together too?

That’s exactly what this man on the plane is married to. That’s exactly why my fiancé chose me too.

But the happy successful long term men are not well represented here. Why would they be? Men like my fiancé and like my seat mate today don’t need to be here.

But I assure you these men exist. And they are sophisticated and nuanced in how they relate to the world. Not black & white one dimensional thinking.

We had a mentally stimulating conversation about finance, real estate, economic prognostication going on in the media and personal interests.

Until some of you guys develop into better people the top women will not see you. It’s not about being jacked. It’s about being a man fulfilling his potential in a well rounded way.

Top women won’t give you the time of day otherwise.

I question your anecdotal stories, but the premise is the same. BeExcellent, be something.
Stand out, being high value is not looks, money or status like these folks keep preaching here. It’s not black and white. The more you engage with incels, the more you will become just like them

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

@BeExcellent

you’re tossing the babies out with the bath water. I’m sure there are men here that fit all of the things you listed, but are here to discuss philosophically about the SMP.

We know you’re beautiful and smart and successful - because you tell us all the time. And while many of your posts are spot-on your contempt for the assembled calls into question YOUR reason for being here. You’re claiming to be the equivalent of your seat mate who wouldn’t spend time here - heh, you’d be surprised.