Will there ever be a real Men's Rights Movement?

[Epimanes]

More like a social dis-function.

I'm tired boys. Here's the deal. The reason there is no men's rights movement is the reason this thread is ****. There is no leadership. There is no leaders. There is no plan. There is no mission. The loudest voices sidetrack the moderate ones. Nothing gets done. Every man for himself and all it takes is one good blow job to convert some of these guys.

If you think lesbians created the women's movement, what would be analogous? Gays? Gays care not for a mens movement. Omegas n Betas? Nope. Woulda done it already. It's gonna take a man with the heart of a fanatic and the charm of a politician. None of you are it. That's why you won't have one. A real Men's Right Movement will be called WAR N Revolution. It will be called destruction of society and reverting for a short period to a very hard life for everyone. And the powers that be are doing their best (as is their job) to make sure that doesn't happen. So suck it up buttercups. Learn to play the game you got, not the game you wish you had.

Shyt man .. thats a good one. Cant say it much better than that.

 

[Slickster]

Slick

you are equally patronizing and annoying.

Your post history is full of "negative crap" as much as anybody you are

taking shots at here.

Thankfully, turning this forum around hasn't come down to guys like you;

since it seems like all you can contribute is childish insults.

People who disagree with you surely are all less intelligent and socially inept,

not to mention horridly unattractive.

It's amusing to observe the depths of irrationality and hypocrisy people can be swimming in, when their core beliefs and soft ego's are challenged.

Yes my inbox is full of thank yous for all the negative advice I've been giving everyone.

If I ever feel negative I try not to post here. However I will always try to squash the negative and limiting beliefs that are spread like disease by some of the members here. The positive message that has been cultivated by this site has helped many improve their lives and it is too valuable to let some frustrated guys poison it.

Remember the scene in American History X? Where the teacher asks Derek "Has anything you've done made your life better?" That is what I think of when I read all this anti-woman bullshyt.

 

[kimberleah]

Men shouldnt have a rights movement because they have been in control over women (degrading, punishing, controlling them) for the vast majority of human existence.

The USA does not need a Men's Rights Movement. I would say our legal system with families could use some work- to get full custody of your kids your ex wife has to be proven to be a monster pretty much- but other than that I would say we're fine.

The vast majority of men and about 98% of men on this site are just apes pretending to be human. Men are shallow, callous, not capable of fully loving another person, think with their ****s instead of their brain cells too much and have little self control. They feel entitled to everything. Men are the takers in a relationship while women are the givers. Truth. If women knew what was right for them theyd only use men to create children and never bother with them again- we dont need your money anymore.

Very few men have genuine compassion and the ones that seem to have it are faking it to get something from you. I dont think a species that acts like this should rule the world.

 

[Boilermaker]

Yes my inbox is full of thank yous for all the negative advice I've been giving everyone.

If I ever feel negative I try not to post here. However I will always try to squash the negative and limiting beliefs that are spread like disease by some of the members here. The positive message that has been cultivated by this site has helped many improve their lives and it is too valuable to let some frustrated guys poison it.

Remember the scene in American History X? Where the teacher asks Derek "Has anything you've done made your life better?" That is what I think of when I read all this anti-woman bullshyt.

Then, continue doing what you do best, mate.

Stop bashing anyone who might have other interests. What part of "stay out of it, if you aren't interested" you guys don't understand?

Or are you coming here to relax by lashing it out on guys like Tits?

 

[( . )( . )]

That is what I think of when I read all this anti-woman bullshyt.

At least thats a step up from your usual " you just cant get da girlzzzz". Btw I'd brace yourself, I've been thinking of starting a thread discussing our boys dropping out of schools in record numbers and male teachers becoming extinct soon. *GASP*

Say just on a side note, you don't happen to work in family law/divorce industry do you?

The vast majority of men and about 98% of men on this site are just apes pretending to be human. Men are shallow, callous, not capable of fully loving another person, think with their ****s instead of their brain cells too much and have little self control.

And don't you ever forget it b!tch.

 

[Jitterbug]

Well you guys better hope that a MRM can be started and can work... because historically in various corners of the globe, when the majority of men were treated as 2nd class citizens and became disenfranchised & less invested in the future of society, there had always been just one outcome: War & Destruction.

Regarding telling men to ignore social shame on topics like using prostitution, I have doubts that it can work on a large scale. The majority of people (men included) are not aware enough or independent enough in their thinking to be able to ignore social shaming. Only a minority can, and I'd say this is by design so that societies can function. This is why we invented religions and other forms of controls and shaming in the first place, to keep the majority in line.

What's happening now is that our glorious leaders have failed us and killed the social contract that made men invest in society. Usually what'd follow is war, if you believe that humans haven't really changed much socially for thousands of years, and new leaders with a better social contract replacing them eventually.

Slightly more annoying things to be concerned about than Slickster whining about us whining, I'd say.

 

[SXS]

the fat chick strikes back ?

 

[Solomon]

I really wish I had time to respond but even if I did, these arguments are lame. I would rather argue with you guys if blow jobs are better with a girl using hands or no hands.

Solomon's right (as usual). the thing is, and this isn't race bating or racism in the lesat bit, but beucase African Americans in the 70's and 80's were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian coutnerp arts, thus most African american women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don't need a man, we kinda like have a 20 year year start on this whole feminism thing. i guess that's why people like me and warrior and Solomon think this is more funny than anything. lol my mother when i was what, 8 dated a man named clifford. cliffered was a baller lol. lived in the upscale part of town, made great money, had 2 story house, the entire top story was nothing but an entertainment center with a pool table and TV's and we would go spend days over there at a time. i would live up stairs by myself. **** was great lol. i would hook my sega up to his TV and just play pool. yeah my mom dumped him for having the nerve to suggest that she move in with him. lol and this was 1991.

lol black women have been telling black men they aren't ****, weren't **** and never will be **** well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool. black women have been using/abusing the legal system for decades to their advantage.


The thing is, with people not getting married as much, with divorce going through the roof.. white families are being divided and now you have a llot more people in general who are born in non traditional homes. it's not a coincidence that i have had 4 real GF's as an adult and every last one came from a 2 parent home. they were easily the most sane/realistic of all the girls i've slept with/spun. Even the black amateur model i dated with the banging body, at the end of the day was quite traditional and very loyal and very much believed in a traditional house hold, beucase her parents have been married for 30 years.


and we are here to tell you, it's not the end of the world. it's not the day after tomorrow. and you are going to run yourself ragged worried about everything. all you can do is screen, and be the best you that you can be and weed out the bull ****. Game is the key. i'll tell you the same thign my father told me growing up... all you can do is play the game. that's all at the end of the day you can do. make sure you don't put a ring on a skanks finger. make sure you don't knock up a hood rat and get taken by the system. keep your feet out of the fire at the end of the day is all you can, and really should, do.

looking at our plight, even tells you the end game. we didn't need a black men's right movement. black women are the manosphere punch line /archetype of women who are too demanding and unrealistic and they all end up single. the only people who get got by black women are guys who want to get got. the only guy who was stupid enough to put a ring on my mom's finger (who is the ultimate alpha widow) was the beta male who bought into the church hype.. and we all know better. and in 2 years she had rented her own apartment to get away from him. my mom has dated a school distract superintendent, an engineer, a lawyer and a bishop of a church, and none of them were good enough for her independent ass lol, and this was all before AOL started sending those inertent disks in the mid 90's.

at the end of the day you are going to do the exact same thing we did.. broaden our scope and weed out ignorant women/ dont' deal with the drama.

BB broke it down beatifully, I really don't have to add much to it. When I ask you "MRM" guys for solutions you guys give me the "spread the red pill rhetoric" like that alone will turn things around. The link that Danger posted to Usher has nothing to do with him being black, he is a celebrity if that was Brad Pitt it would be the same schtick.

This is the reason why even the Manosphere thinks MGTOW and MRM guys are jokes. You guys ain't in the field, you guys are KBJ's who are online whining like birds. I probably have done more for MRM indirectly then most would know

But maybe you guys need to hear the truth from one of your own, a guy that you all know to well

^^^As I get older this guy and I see eye to eye and I know why, the more I'm away from the site the clearer my vision becomes

Peace

 

[Bokanovsky]

So forgive me when I roll my eyes everytime I see a thread like this but to me this whole "men's rights" is a joke, and even worse is to compare it to civl rights...



I perosnally don't care about this topic its funny to see people get their jimmes rustled over some "movement" that ain't moving nothing

You sound like one of those overly opinionated types who think that their opinion is so valuable, it has to be repeated ten times over, lest some unfortunate soul happens to miss it the first, second and ninth time. You don't care about men's right, we get it. You said this many times over. Instead of trying to convince us of the errors of our ways, perhaps you could go back to more productive pursuits, such as engaging in stimulating discussions on the subject of "beer googles in the field" and picking up land whales (literally): http://i50.tinypic.com/kewv9s.jpg

 

[Solomon]

You sound like one of those overly opinionated types who think that their opinion is so valuable, it has to be repeated ten times over, lest some unfortunate soul happens to miss it the first, second and ninth time. You don't care about men's right, we get it. You said this many times over. Instead of trying to convince us of the errors of our ways, perhaps you could go back to more important pursuits, such as stimulating discussions on the subject of "beer googles in the field" and picking up land whales (literally): http://i50.tinypic.com/kewv9s.jpg

aww this is how you know you're losing an argument. When the attacks becomes personal and you have to dig up old post on a poster and try to discredit them by focusing on something that has no barring on the current topic at hand

and lol @ that chick being a land whale, far from buddy nice try.

my status= Jimmies Unrustled

You= Jimmies Rustled severly

**** outta dirt eater you missed a spot!

Try again

 

[Bokanovsky]

aww this is how you know your losing when the attacks become personal, and lol @ that chick being a land whale, far from buddy nice try

status: Jimmies Unrustled

Try again

Not a personal attack, just an observation (and in any event, you should be the last person to complain about personal attacks, considering how abrasive your own personality is).

And yes, that chick is a land whale...look at them elephant legs!

 

[Bokanovsky]

my status= Jimmies Unrustled

You= Jimmies Rustled severly

**** outta dirt eater you missed a spot!

Try again

Sorry, I don't speak ebonics. Translate that to English and try again..

 

[Solomon]

Not a personal attack, just an observation (and in any event, you should be the last person to complain about personal attacks, considering how abrasive your own personality is).

And yes, that chick is a land whale...look at them elephant legs!

*yawn*

Post a pic and haters gonna hate,I love it B how your sooooooo mad moving on.....

how are you guys planning to mobilize? what are you doing to win? what is the objective and purpose of MRM? did you read the links I posted? Why aren't black male issues adress? Why the constant hate against liberals when it's a fact most blacks aren't conservative?

right now the men's rights movement is looking like the decepticons in Transfomers 3

ASS OUT

 

[SXS]

MGTOW is not any different from the herbivorous trend on Japan. Is not that men there avoid women or being sexual, is just that they are tired of paying too muchfor it. But look how much porn sells are high there.
The japanese men are living a period of economic decline, and it's not that they simply dont have hopes for improvement of the economy, it's also that they are the sons of that enourmous economic growth of a few decades, and they don't see their parents as having the ideal life they aspire to have. So they think, why bother ?
IMO, when the decline of western economic power and influence accelerates, which is what happening right now, various similar trends and with much bigger intensity will arise.

 

[Burroughs]

u mad Solomon

 

[wait_out]

Props on this article. How prescient of him. And I want to say something about that, despite my distate in still being involved in this discussion.

http://dapook.blogspot.ca/2008/03/time-to-move-beyond-mgtow.html

Pook was the patron saint of SS and one of the most influential posters in its history.... and he's still got our backs against some of the more poisonous members here. Guess who has his? Shakespeare.

If anyone wants to embarrass themselves by arguing further (whoops... too late), be my guest. But it is obvious that the aggressiveness of members with nothing useful to say, is driving away those with something valuable. If pook was posting today half of you would be ripping on him -- despite the fact he actually HELPED people by being inspirational and setting an example. That says something about what this place has become, and it says something about YOU. The value is being sucked out of this place by negative, useless people who can't shut the fvck up for 5 seconds, to actually learn something. If SS was like this in 2008 I would have panned it in about 30 seconds.

I don't want to be the guy leading the fight -- I have a real life and arguing on the net takes time and energy. But as Pook said food and poison do not co-exist. At some point the moderators have to decide what this place exists for.

 

[scrouds]

http://artofmanliness.com/2008/09/21/how-to-debate-politics-civilly/

 

[backbreaker]

hey is that like the real pook's blog?

 

[EastWind]

The vast majority of men and about 98% of men on this site are just apes pretending to be human. Men are shallow, callous, not capable of fully loving another person, think with their ****s instead of their brain cells too much and have little self control. They feel entitled to everything. Men are the takers in a relationship while women are the givers. Truth. If women knew what was right for them theyd only use men to create children and never bother with them again- we dont need your money anymore.

Very few men have genuine compassion and the ones that seem to have it are faking it to get something from you. I dont think a species that acts like this should rule the world.

Am I the only one to notice that if you replace "men" with "women" in this post you obtain what a vast majority of male posters is preaching about women on this forum?

 

[Down Low]

Many of you are forgetting something very important.

Nowdays, young men are raised by single mothers: the same hypergamous b1tches we warn each other off of. Young men grow up in small families with no older brothers around, and maybe a string of mom's boyfriends with the gamut of dubious behaviors. Youth are relentlessly beaten senseless by feminism at home, on TV, and in schools. And being sold on the supposed equality or inevitability of homosexuality and other forms of perversion. Meanwhile, their communication and expression is more and more restricted to just poking their fingers on a plastic box. Young men are quite isolated compared to my generation. They don't have a clue about how to man up. Simply telling the up-and-coming men to "man up" -- is telling them nothing. Ignoring their disadvantageous circumstances and doing nothing -- again, is telling them nothing.

At the very least, we have a duty to spread information.