Why You Must Convert Cash to Assets.

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Cash is nothing more than an IOU printed by the GOV. It has no inherent value except that which it buys today. It retains no value save what it can continue to buy. However, things inevitably go up in price, and prices rise primarily because...land will forever increase in price. As land prices drive higher, all prices rise. That's the big appeal of R/E, it's inflation protection benefit. It's the primary reasons why prices rise to begin with. It will forever the poor people poor. Not because they don't want to be richer (though motivation can be considered a piece of it), but because rents always rise. They may stagnate, but they rise. Even commerical businesses face the same situation, which they pass on through to the consumer.

The primary inflators of price are:

1. Land
2. Health care
3. Energy

And they all roll together. The true inflation rate (CPI) is made up of components that are outdated, and don't have a dramatic effect on the purchasing power of consumers. Even a small increase in energy, land, or health bills can sap consumers of 100's and 1,000's of dollars in disposable income. Will there ever be an end in sight for a decrease in prices with the above components? No, never.

And with Cash only being an IOU, effectively a debt instrument as you examine the IRS and treasury websites, you begin to realize, what kind of asset is it? Cash itself, sitting in your wallet is nothing. Gold, sitting in your bedroom, does have value. Stock certificates in your office have value. A piece of property sitting in a decent location, has value. Old coins, have value. Even old baseball cards will have value. But cash, save what it buys today to keep one alive, has no value. If converted to a savings account, a cd, etc, has value, because depositing it creates value for the bank, to be lent out. For the bank, your money is a liability, a note to be repaid to you. On the flipside, your home loan is an asset to the bank. It allows the monetization of your loan. Most banks will sell the loan for a discount to funds and get cash they can then lend out. That's the money cycle, and it's created through debt.

This isn't an absolute, but cash was created to faciliate the transfer and barter of goods, not for accumulation. It's transmission allows the fluidity to different investment mediums...from stocks to bonds to R/E to businesses to hard assets, and on and on. Anyone without it, needs it and wants it, but if you have Gold, the same gold 50,100 years ago would buy a suit then, the same as it would buy a nice suit now. The same can't be said of cash. It can only buy what it can THEN. It has no future value.

Moreover, what decreases its ability to be a real asset is the fact that the supply is manipulated based on policy. It's not tied to anything economic, as gold is tied to mining and production, or homes are tied to construction and sales. The value of cash is completely arbitrary and diminishes over time. Within the system of our economy, the effect isn't widely felt, except when gas blows the roof off our SUV, or property taxes rise, or health insurance goes up. Over a 10 or 20 year span though, you feel it. For the 20 somethings, you know movie theatre tickets for the same technology IN movie theatres is now double. That clothing has doubled, despect no changes except style. Quality is very suspect with clothing, as most retailers are providing LESS material per unit (case in point, the Metro craze sweeping men's clothing, most shirts are skimpy, near sleaveless and thin.).

Hence why, the rich get richer. They're buying assets, things that are in little supply even now, letting them compound, then buying things. If you bought gold, for instance 30 years ago with what money you had, you could buy the same standard of living today. While it won't make you rich, it will keep you whole. If you want to be rich, that's possible, too, just invest more money, learn more financial tips, accumulate more assets in a given year or years than you do THINGS, and you'll be rich. Making mega millions or billions requires founding something, being a star, or earning a high income. You can still be rich by investing wisely and positioning yourself correctly.

Indebting makes sense if...

*If you can earn MORE money through indebting yourself, than you can otherwise. Someone who's savy with money and won't blow it, and can earn MORE than the rate of interest a bank charges on the loan SHOULD borrow, because their CAREER income or INVESTMENT income will rise faster than their LOAN indebtment will. For instance, if you're a professional with a bright future, buying a house today that might be very tight for you is SMART if it's a good deal on the home AND you're going to see many raises in the future.

However, if you're not a GO Getter, and you don't aspire to save or invest, then indebting yourself just created a nice little ring of slavery. The same people trudging away for a 4% pay increase will see that increase sapped by ENERGY, HEALTH care, and HOME costs. So they might as well pay the home and car off AS fast as possible. They're not "financially intelligent" enough to leverage the life they have, and that's ok. But having debt running forever, CAN double the price of a car or home, or college tuition, so if you're not planning to earn a better ROI, then why stay indebted?

Kids who go to college, borrow at extremely low rates ANTICIPATING many wage increases in the future, that will more than make up for the debt service costs on the loans. Yet, if you're not of that type, why throw the added cost into the equation? The DEBT service factor on homes and cars stays the same, but costs rise in both categories, and often faster than incomes of Average Americans. Only, it's not really seen. A minor raise is really slap in the face, since most people know that Prescriptions, Gas, Oil, Home, Land, and Taxes rise all the time and are suspect to change. A minor raise doesn't even keep pace with inflation truly, because the biggest alligator of one's budget isn't food or clothing, which the CPI measures, but HOME, ENERGY, and HEALTH care. From the average persons perspective, the mortage is 28% of one's net income, and then add in both OIL, GAS, and ELECTRIC, you'll easily hit 50% or more of NET INCOME.

Cash converted today is purchased at an asset level today, on assets that will go up. People who are 'conservatively' estimating retirement or future costs are doing a grave disservice because the numbers show otherwise. Cash is what works in this society where bartering would be impossible, and where gold has been taken out of the equation, but playing the game requires different tactics. Cash value is built on the faith and credit of the US that it can be exchanged for something else, that's it. And amidst the transaction, the US gov will pull out or put in MORE of the cash, throwing the equation off balance anyways.

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Our parents can tell us about how cheap gas was, or movie tickets, or home prices. What do you think we'll tell our kids? "Gee, home prices were cheap, or movie tickets, or coca cola, or gasoline...was cheap." People ask, where do I invest? Look around you. Look at all the opportunities. Peter Lynch should be renowned in history because he used to just pick stocks for his Magellan fund that he'd see while walking or driving through society. Opportunity exists to seize one's wealth, it's there. And you needn't have to be wealthy, even just "comfortable" enough to put the fruits of your labors to work will suffice. Because like the story of the Ants and the Grasshopper, reckoning day comes. The grasshopper only consumed and considered the present, and when the snow began to fly, he had nothing, not even a morsel to eat to stay alive - that was until the ants helped him out and kept him alive by offering some of their stash. And as the story proves, there's time to reap the rewards of one's labor -- in this case it was winter. So those who abhor saving or even giving this a "go", needn't worry, the day will come when you can rest and enjoy the fruits of your labors.

But what if instead of buying a Coke product, you bought the Coke stock?
What if instead of buying XBOX 360, you bought shares in MSFT?
What if for every liability you bought, you instead bought the corresponding asset? How much better off would you be? People ask..."where do I invest..." yet, the investments are all around them, theyre just on the LIABILITY/EXPENSE side of the equation. Sure, Coke stock, or MSFT could go down, in the short-run. But if it's around longer than your XBOX, or the COKE you drink, won't it likely go up? Or at least be around the same value, which is more to be said than for your consumption of their products?

What if instead of throwing money away on going OUT, you worked on learning how to make the kind of place you'd never want to leave? The kind of place with game rooms, and bars, or pooltables, a pool, a jacuzzi?




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you are exactly right... gold if you can more so than anything.
 

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I never thought of that 'instead of drinking a coke, invest in it' idea. Only for me, it's coffee. Another awesome post! :up:
 

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I like this post :)

what are some examples of things that can be purchased as assets?
 

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Cash is trash. Especially your dollar at the moment, its worth jack s*** and only going to fall further.

Equities until 2010, property in growth areas if you can leverage it, i.e. Eastern Europe.
 

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Guns very rarely go down in value, and are a very liquid tangible asset, possibly even more liquid than gold. And in a catastrophe like a natural disaster, they skyrocket in value at least until the crisis is over. After Katrina, reports on the looting from the super Wal-mart said that guns were the first items to be taken.
 

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I'm planning on opening an investment account sometime this winter...I've been reading Jim Cramer's book "Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane World" to try to get some ideas of WHERE to invest my money. I've always got a couple thousand sitting in a savings account "for a rainy day", and it's really not doing me much good earning less than 1% interest.

Real estate/property's kind of in the back of my mind right now, since I don't have that much money free to spend on starting up that kind of project. However, my neighbors have mentioned selling their townhouse and moving to FL in the next couple years, so I'm thinking of scooping it up and renting it out if I can afford it. The unit on the other side of me is already being rented and it seems like there's enough demand for property in my area.

Plus I'm going to squeeze what I can into my 401k, since all that's tax-deferred. ("Pay yourself first", right? :) )

Bible_Belt said:
After Katrina, reports on the looting from the super Wal-mart said that guns were the first items to be taken.
I don't think that they were stolen with the intention of maintaining equity. :p
 

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True about the Katrina 'gun investors,' but it does still illustrate demand. After Katrina, I had the urge to buy a semi-truck load of cheap mossberg shotguns, and peddle them door-to-door in Louisiana for about double the pre-crisis value. People are driven by their emotions, and fear is a powerful motivator.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
True about the Katrina 'gun investors,' but it does still illustrate demand. After Katrina, I had the urge to buy a semi-truck load of cheap mossberg shotguns, and peddle them door-to-door in Louisiana for about double the pre-crisis value. People are driven by their emotions, and fear is a powerful motivator.
So if theres a major outbreak of violence in Louisiana, we'll know who to blame :nervous:
 

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What did you just read Rich Dad Poor Dad or something? Good advice but just like the above book you don't really give any concrete examples on how to beat lending rates. Do you want people to invest in only Blue Chips? Index Funds?

Do you want them to take out a second mortgage like in the book and buy property? I'd say those that have purchased in most of the US in the last year or two years ago and didn't sell within a year are kind of angry at the land never depreciates argument. Sure the land may not but unless you have a lot of money, you are going to buy small plots with real estate on it and real estate certainly goes down. Maybe not over the long term but if you catch it in that lull or bust or whatever it's enough to wipe out your earnings and leave you with soemthing that will cost you a ton.

What kinds of things are you investing in energy? Do you mean tax shelter investing in Juniors? Big companies? Coming from the oil patch I think people should start to be a little wary in terms of throwing money in oil and gas. Alternative energy is even more risky because there is no clear one coming to the forefront as the new source.

I'm not trying to belittle your post but it seems like a lot of smart financial theory with no way to get there. It's a good starting point but then you leave people with the mindset of. "All right! Hell ya! Uh...now what?"
 

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Re:

My initial react was to 'laugh,' and by saying that I laughed, I confirmed that I smirked a little?

1) This is sosuave, I'm not about to tell anyone HOW to do anything. All guys pick up women differently, so too will men invest differently.
2) I don't advocate a HOW to guide. You'd be forced into following my methods to perpetuity, binding you to me, or some arbitrary system.

To your second point, I read Rich Dad 6 years ago, right around when it came out. And yes, he says BUY assets, but he never says WHY, as you pointed out. Once again, because wealth creation is a SKILL that each individual learns. If you read and grasp any of his books, one of his biggest peeves it's LACK of personal RESPONSIBILITY. So by being an offerer of investment advice he GIVES people fish, rather than TEACHING them to fish as he desires to do so. The beauty behind his game, or any game is, you put the goggles on and you see the world differently.

Now, on to how?

Save some dough up, and put it away before years end. Look into direct gold purchases, gold etf's, gold stocks, or pure gold assets. Check out the stock market. Read up, and learn to invest WITHOUT diversification, much like Buffet or Lynch or O'neil or any other pro has. Put your money to WORK. Learn about various Real estate opportunities. Read up. Learn about REITS. Even if you don't want the headaches, there's levels of REITS to invest in, that even much of America who are pure savers don't enjoy. As you noted, there's oil and gas partnerships, there's leasing funds, there's trading, options, etc. Someone posted on FUTUREs and currency. There's even learning how to create assets that are saleable online. Keep money in your account that isn't being used for the 6 month emergency fund and the "feel good" fund, IMO, is wasteful. If it has a short-term purposes, under 5 years, like a home purchase or other major purchase, then let it work some. It'd be better to own a CD, knowing you can break it for little penalty than own just cash, or invest that and risk losing it and having to save more.

But again, I've come by this knowledge through reading and doing, and what works for me, MIGHT not work for someone else. The HOW is a problem, because people don't show themselves HOW. They're always asking to be shown HOW. But the only thing you need is the CONCEPT that "this is possible." That's how many guys here take off and they go their own. When Ross Jeffries and Mystery sprang up, it grew a whole community of variations in philosophy, which fit individual style. Now you have choices, but confusion, too.

RK is getting around to WHY holding cash is bad. He's become more bold than just saying, "it's how you get rich." He's saying that the GOV is mismanaged by BOTH parties. That the dollar is falling. That the war will/is sapping the fiscal strength of the country. That the babyboomers will sap the stock market (this I doubt...and I'll say why). Not that it's a negative note, but he is pointing out how Dire the situation is, and now it's fish or cut bait. The younger generations have no excuse for NOT accumulating money and learning from previous generations. And also, it's a responsibilty of the CURRENT young generations to take control and right this ship. People can be upset about RK, but that's only a tell that they're looking for the "hot tip." Part of being anything is being creative. Thinking on one's feet, and seeing opportunity where few other's do. I realize that gives me, or anyone who doesn't say HOW an "out", but it's true. The HOW is the part of God, the part of the universe. You only need the idea. And to ask the question, and let it stew. HOW do I afford...HOW do I make extra...It's a question posed to the blank slate of the mind.

Individual selections NOW are only based on the CURRENT environment. The past few years the stock market has season great gains, while the real estate market has seen poor performance. So what's the HOW here? It's based on time and experience and drive and the skill of the person wielding the investment. NOT on HOW as to what is best. Because a skillful person can MAKE the HOW.

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On why RK missed the mark on a dropping stock market as people retire...

1) The depression ERA. People don't change their savings and spending habits easily. When either is formed, they're not easily changed, so if there's MUCH wealth tied up in the market, then it's likely little will be used for retirement.
2) People in retirement who can't get another job, or won't, HATE to see investments decline, and this is precisely what happens IF people take more than the income that is spun off from investments; they would take capital. With people living longer, they will reduce income before they reduce capital. Which is sad, and another reason for my post. The risk of living too long or health problems prevents them from living fully.
3) Annuities. Annuities are the primary source of income generation in retirement. Social security is an annuity. Pensions from both corporations, the state and federal government also. Annuity companies SEE where the trend is going...toward retirement and longevity. As such, they're making products and investments available that HOLD the assets in the market, insure the investments against loss, and seek to retain them AT the company forever, because they offer such guarantees. If this is the way it goes, so much money will be tied up, it won't move.
4) Most of the wealth in the markets are actually held by a select few, maybe 20%? Given how popular the market is, people have higher credit card balances than they do brokerage account and MF account balances, ON THE AVERAGE. The large % of holdings are held by LARGE owners who don't need to sell capital for income, or would sell easily.

These factors are so large, it's not likely you'll see them hit the market. If anything, MORE people will be getting in from a variety of angles, as they were not likely invested before. Or not FULLY invested before. They can talk all they want, and that's nice and logical and scientific and mathematical. However, you can't deny human emotion, and that's the larger trend at play here. A person who has BIG assets, will only take income. And small assets won't effect the market, even if they take it out. The system that will fail 1 way or the other AND SHOULD is social security. And since the only support for that system is CURRENT tax receipts collected from current workers and given to current retirees, this cash flow pyramid will flip flop and the ponzi scheme will end. There's nothing specifically saved toward this liability, except a bunch of entries on a balance sheet which demonstrates what is owed to people who paid. It was meant as a POVERTY level retirement program, not a retirement program.

So the how? Left up to us to discover, but it's well wortht the conversation here to find new experiences.



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So basically, buy stuff, right?

Would this be a good analogy then? A $40 gift certificate and a $40 item have different values, even if they may be "worth" the same dollar amount. The item will always be worth its value, but the gift certificate will lose its value over time. Plus, the gift certificate has no better use than to trade for the item. So you should always keep the item instead of the certificate, yes? Just like you should keep assets instead of cash.

I think I understand.
 

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Ace of Flames said:
So basically, buy stuff, right?

Would this be a good analogy then? A $40 gift certificate and a $40 item have different values, even if they may be "worth" the same dollar amount. The item will always be worth its value, but the gift certificate will lose its value over time.
I think I understand.
We talking gift certificates for shops? Then you're the wrong way round, if you buy trousers for $40, they arn't gonna be worth $40 in a month, but the certificate will sell for $40.
 

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But...a gift certificate will never GROW in value. That is the catch. Yeah, I could blow my CCs and buy stuff, like forks, paper and socks, but it'll never GROW in value. That is the whole point of the article. If you want to spend money on stuff, consider making it worthwhile. :up:

There's a additional side to what A-Unit posted. He focused more on stuff that will automatically increase in value, but there is also the ability to play the cost/demand system, or wholesaling.

I bought a bunch of computer equipment, all below cost. I even pulled in two failed hard drive laptops. The hard drives I pulled in are below selling value, so I'm already ahead. The laptops were bought undercost as well. All I have to do is make the laptop works, and make my deal sound good, and I can more then triple the return. And if it fails even more, back to eBay where it belongs.

And knowing Christmas is on our heels and people will WANT to buy LAPTOPS and other HIGH PRICED EQUIPMENT, being able to sell UNDERCOST equipment at a HIGHER PRICE means you turn PROFIT, sometimes 5x or up in what you paid for. Catch the market at the right time, and you have something worthwhile, it becomes cake. :up:
 

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I think Appreciation and Depreciation are also good topics to address.

A car will Depreciate in value. as soon as u drive it off the lot, its value is gradually falling.

Art, for example, (if its GOOD art) tends to Appreciate in value. If you buy it for $300 in 2006, then the artist becomes famous (or even better, becomes famous and promptly dies), then the value of the art will rise very high. in 2016, for example, you might be able to turn around and sell it for thousands or more, depending on circumstances. keep in mind that some art is junk though.

So buy things that will appreciate, rather than depreciate in value
 

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Something that always appreciates in value but rarely noticed, knowledge. Even more so, EXPERIENCE. If you know how to do something, and you've been though it a thousand times, people will pay you to use your knowledge to do something.

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ahhh very true.

Knowledge is power.
 

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The value of most tangible things will still fluctuate over time, similar to cash. The best investments are those that are out of public favor when you buy them, so the price is low, and then become hot and trendy items. You can then sell into a spike of buyers. This requires patience and skepticism of current trends. In the 80's and 90's, people thought that baseball cards were good investments, but now the bottom has fallen out of the prices.
 

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hey blackbirdbeatle, I remember msging you before, check your inbox
 

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Great topic.

There's three things I love to do with my money..

-Buy things that I really enjoy. I'm 28 and have been buying old GI Joes that I had as a kid in the 80's. They're cheap ($10-20 a piece) and for the money I get alot out of them. Even when a little $8 figure comes, cool.

They're decent assets, not much risk. They're never going to go to zero. They're worth at least a few dollars a piece in toy value. And I get way more enjoyment out of them than blowing $2,000 on a PS3 on launch day.

Same with clothes, same with video games, same with everything. Buy what you really enjoy. Whats the point of having thousands of dollars worth of stuff in your closet that you never see? I get more excited holding cash in my paypal balance than holding onto collectibles that I havent looked at in 4 years.

-Invest money in yourself. Books, tapes, CDs, home study courses on marketing, sales, real estate....whatever your topic is. You can buy courses on ebay for a fraction of retail, sell them back for close to what you paid for them, and you've gotten a free education. It's foolproof.

You can build up a huge private library. You may not even use what you know for 5 years, but you've got an asset, you've got a knowledge base to work from. If the real estate market crashes in 3 years, you know how to play it. If some business opportunity comes your way, you can take advantage of it.

Invest in Toastmasters for $60-100 a year. Get out and network.

Most people think of return on investment in a real narrow sense. Invest $1,000 and make 5% in a money market fund. Or make 12% in a mutual fund.

Make 5,000% on your money. I invested probably $150 in Toastmasters for 2 years. What are better presentation skills worth in your job? What's more confidence worth? If you use to close 1 out of 20 sales and now you close 1 out of 10, whats that worth?

What are intangibles worth? Better speaking skills, better phone skills, more organized, better planning for the future, better time management? That's where the real money is made.

-Invest in real assets. Put your money to work for you.

You can invest your money in probably a 100 different places..

Stocks - Value stocks, small cap, mid cap, large cap, turn around plays, indexes, ETF's, mutual funds

Bonds - Corp, govt, junk, AAA

Options - 10-20 major options strategies. You can buy in the money, at the money, out of the money. You can buy an option expiring in a day. Or a LEAP expiring in 2 years.

Futures - Dozens of futures markets

Currencies - Maybe a dozen major currencies to choose from

Real Estate - Probably a dozen strategies here

Business - Invest in better marketing, better promotions, better technology, innovation.

Copyrights, patents, domain names, customer lists, down to kooky stuff like moon rocks or land on mars etc, etc.

After doing some reading and coming to my own conclusions, I think the idea of buying and holding solely US stocks and "thats it" is extremely limiting. They may not all be right for you (I'm not investing my retirement money in options that expire tomorrow), but at least see the whole spectrum of opportunity.

If you want to get smart about investing, go much deeper than just the superficial stuff you see every day.

"Commodities are risky". No they're not. Margin is risky. Most people that lost in commodities bought on paper thin margin.

"No one can beat the stock market". Sure people have done it. Read about Buffett, Lynch, Templeton, Schloss, Ruane, Graham-Newman, etc.

"Stocks always go up 10% a year automatically". No they don't.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2005/12/100_year_bull_b.html

There's certainly more to it than anyone can cover in a single thread. But man....if your working 2,000-2,500 hours a year for your money, I want to spend time knowing where its going. Its too imporant in my lifetime not to know about.
 
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