Why women rule relationships and men are stupid

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A bunch of paranoid grown up guys whining and looking for excuses.

As far as LTR go.. men really don't make any rules. When is the last time you saw a married couple where the man had a list of rules the woman had to follow?
Because he doesn't OWN her as if she was cattle. She has autonomy and free will like any other adult human being.

Why are their few if any men who can demand sex from his partner whenever he wants it without any resistance?
This would constitute rape. Is that what you are advocating for: the right for men to sexually use and abuse women as objects at will? If so, state it loud and clear if you dare.
 

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Poon King said:
Did you actually read the thread? If most men were alphas they wouldn't need this site or any of the material on it.

You're no alpha dude. You're a 12 year old KJ. You sound stupid.
You are the KJ who wrote this stupid thread. Clearly you have no relationship or marriage experience to write any of this stuff. I read your thread and there was no point to it. A bunch of your whining how women have it better than men. All that makes you a KJ. Why do you need this site and the material?
 

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Blusher said:
A bunch of paranoid grown up guys whining and looking for excuses.



Because he doesn't OWN her as if she was cattle. She has autonomy and free will like any other adult human being.



This would constitute rape. Is that what you are advocating for: the right for men to sexually use and abuse women as objects at will? If so, state it loud and clear if you dare.
Only a massive white knight would actually get upset over this stuff.

See #7

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You are the KJ who wrote this stupid thread. Clearly you have no relationship or marriage experience to write any of this stuff. I read your thread and there was no point to it. A bunch of your whining how women have it better than men. All that makes you a KJ. Why do you need this site and the material?
If you don't like my posts, don't read them moron. Attack the argument.. not the person making it.

I don't argue with 12 year olds.
 

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Only a massive white knight would actually get upset over this stuff.
You defend the right for husband to rape their wives. You sound like Taliban or Daesh propaganda.
 

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If you don't like my posts, don't read them moron. Attack the argument.. not the person making it.

I don't argue with 12 year olds.

Nice KJ responses. Insulting people with nothing in response having nothing to say. Your argument sucks, I made that point in two posts. You started to call me names that I returned in kind. Your post is all generalizatons calling men betas who enter relationships and marriages. Plenty of alpha men out there who are in control of their relationships. You are a beta that has no control. Whining and complaing about women and relationships with negativity. What true alpha whines about women having power? You are no alpha. If you were, you wouldn't whine over women. Alphas do not whine and complain, only beta KJ's like you do.

Poon King said:
Why are their few if any men who can demand sex from his partner whenever he wants it without any resistance?
AFC's like you need to demand sex because you can't get any from women who are actually turned on like how it's supposed to be. Real men don't demand sex, only losers who can't get any do. Beta KJ's need to demand. When you initiate sex, women will give it to you when you are an Alpha. You don't need to demand the sex you should already be getting.

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Only a massive white knight would actually get upset over this stuff.
Aren't you the one upset enough to write this KJ thread?
 

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Octogonal said:
Nice KJ responses. Insulting people with nothing in response having nothing to say. Your argument sucks, I made that point in two posts. You started to call me names that I returned in kind. Your post is all generalizatons calling men betas who enter relationships and marriages. Plenty of alpha men out there who are in control of their relationships. You are a beta that has no control. Whining and complaing about women and relationships with negativity. What true alpha whines about women having power? You are no alpha. If you were, you wouldn't whine over women. Alphas do not whine and complain, only beta KJ's like you do.
You're the only one here whining. Not very "alpha".

You made your point in two posts? What point? That alphas are perfect, flawless, super heroes immune to everything? Like I said.. this is how 12 year old's think. Not people who live in reality.

Go clean your room before your mom gets home. The only place you're an "alpha" is in your dreams at might.

Blusher said:
You defend the right for husband to rape their wives. You sound like Taliban or Daesh propaganda.
You're the only person talking about rape.

Learn to read or get some glasses.
 

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Poon King said:
You're the only person talking about rape.

Learn to read or get some glasses.
No, you did:

Why are their few if any men who can demand sex from his partner whenever he wants it without any resistance?
You'd be hard pressed to find a better definition of rape/sexual abuse.

Retard.
 

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I think the worst part is watching all of this happen to your friends. People you once spent tons of time hanging out with, and talked to all the time, become barely acquaintances. The next thing you know, it's been months since you've seen them, and when you finally do, they always seem to look so much more drained.

So this must be death.
 

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Only read the first post.

What I believe personally is that EVERYTHING you mentioned is basically (for a lack of a better term) a sh!t test. You can still make the rules and make stuff HER fault, you just need to know how to. And the thing is, when you are called a misogynist and shamed, it is being done so by feminists (whom you should avoid in the first place) or by wimps who have given up on themselves and are jealous of you that you havent and still have that determination to keep trying. Because they wish they had that in them. And plus, when show that you don't care and that you aren't affected by it because you have a lot of pride within yourself, for yourself, that right there will turn women on the most (you almost have to be self righteous in a sense). As for not having women drain you of resources, you make them head over heels for you by passing all of her sh!t tests and by keeping her for such a long time AFTER the honeymoon phase where attraction is at its peak. Then you can demand sex whenever you want it and can reverse everything by withholding sex from HER if SHE does not provide or contribute to/for YOUR needs.

It's all just one giant sh!t test.
 

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This post is f*cking gold. Looking for a relationship is one of the most, if not the most inane and stupid ways for a quality man to spend his time. A man could be following his passions, exploring new hobbies, or furthering his career, but often what I see is a wimp at the bars or the clubs who thinks women are the end all be all of his entire existence.

Life is too great to squander by chasing tail. I know men who get laid maybe once or twice a year, who brag incessantly about the few moments of their life when they were able to have some glory, while being a drug induced dipsh*t. Then, they will shame those who didn't get laid that night or recently or whatever (and yes, a lot of the time they attempt to shame me, when I obviously DGAF about their little moment of glory). These guys will get ridiculously drunk, do drugs and spend almost every waking hour discussing girls they want to ****, looking at porn, or watching tv. There is no substance to these type of men and no real ambition.

For me personally, I moved on from needing a woman in my life a while ago. I used to post here quite a bit when I thought women were important to my well being and forgot my password. I'm glad a thread like this was posted because it is so true. Happiness is internal and can never be brought upon you by a woman. I became happy when I invested in myself. I am now making lots of money, have no debt, drive a fancy car, and love my passions of yoga and meditation, while being quite excellent looking since I take fantastic care of my mind and body. I am frankly terrible with women still, and you know what, I don't give a flying f*ck. I don't seek them, and I don't meet them if they interfere with my schedule. What is more important? Me f*cking some girl in a fleeting moment in time...or furthering my goals and dreams. I take #2 every damn day.

Now let me say, criticism is everywhere. People will try to f*ck with you and ask what's wrong with you, especially the more successful you become. People will disrespect you and will believe they are superior to you when in reality they have no right, and no one is truly superior or inferior to anyone else. Honestly, there is really no reason I shouldn't have some chicka by societies standards, and my family thinks I'm nuts for continuing to hold out on relationships. There are things that matter more in life...a legacy, truth, honesty, and personal character. When a girl comes along, I will bang her brains out and forget about it unless she wants to do it again. Emotionally holding onto people and things is destructive towards my time and goals. Incessantly thinking 'does she like me? What's she doing...etc. is pointless because it will never, ever, change the actual situation.

F*ck society, f*ck the matrix and the games that are played. Live life for you, and you will reap the benefits of happiness and joy abound.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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ImTheDoubleGreatest! said:
What I believe personally is that EVERYTHING you mentioned is basically (for a lack of a better term) a sh!t test.

............

It's all just one giant sh!t test.

That's right, but just because it's a **** test, doesn't mean we need to live a life constantly jumping through hoops.
 

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Octogonal said:
Do you hate women?
Poon King said:
I hate my ex but I would still f*ck her.
Poon King said:
This way even if a man does hate women.. he will be reluctant to reveal it.. thus leading him to continue in his service to women (even if its minimal) and greatly decrease his likeliness to spread the virus to other men. Once a man is accused of hating women, everything he says bares no relevance and can be ignored.
Looks like you hate your ex that you were reluctant to reveal. You are spreading the virus to other men. Everything you have said bares no relevance and you can be ignored.




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This is the main reason why men are stupid.. they actually believe they need to be in committed relationships with women. What the hell for? Seriously. Why does a man need to commit to a woman? How does such a commitment benefit him?

As far as LTR go.. men really don't make any rules.

Reason #3: Men take all of the blame

That obsession leads the man down a path where he is willing to give more than he gets.

The price your average beta is willing to pay in order to have a woman on his arm is proof of his stupidity and inferiority. Getting into physical fights with other men, blowing all his money, following gender roles he doesn't benefit from, etc.

One bad experience with a woman doesn't mean all women are the same way. You were in a relationship, that makes you a stupid beta for being in a committed relationship, not making any rules, taking all the blame, having an obsession with her, having her on your arm, being stupid and inferior, fighting with other men, blowing your money. You followed a female gender role? All of this happened to you, hating your ex for this relationship you sucked at. I told you that you are a beta KJ generalizing all women are the same. Blame yourself for being a beta. The thread is all about YOU.
 

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Octogonal said:
Looks like you hate your ex that you were reluctant to reveal. You are spreading the virus to other men. Everything you have said bares no relevance and you can be ignored.


One bad experience with a woman doesn't mean all women are the same way. You were in a relationship, that makes you a stupid beta for being in a committed relationship, not making any rules, taking all the blame, having an obsession with her, having her on your arm, being stupid and inferior, fighting with other men, blowing your money. You followed a female gender role? All of this happened to you, hating your ex for this relationship you sucked at. I told you that you are a beta KJ generalizing all women are the same. Blame yourself for being a beta. The thread is all about YOU.
Actually this thread is about you.

Because you are obviously a woman or a severe white knight. Only a woman or a white knight would get upset over the things I say. Threads like this are good for revealing all the secret queers and women hiding here.

If I'm upsetting you.. then you are a 12 year old girl and the farthest thing from "alpha" imaginable.

Another sign that reveals you as a woman is you are not attacking the argument... but the person making it.
 

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Reasons why women rule relationships and men are stupid:

Reason #1: Men think they need relationships

This is the main reason why men are stupid.. they actually believe they need to be in committed relationships with women. What the hell for? Seriously. Why does a man need to commit to a woman? How does such a commitment benefit him?

Back when society was harsh to women who were not loyal.. these arrangements benefited men. But that time passed ages ago.. and now women statistically lie and cheat more than men.

Reason #6: Male value and d!ck measuring contests

The price your average beta is willing to pay in order to have a woman on his arm is proof of his stupidity and inferiority. Getting into physical fights with other men, blowing all his money, following gender roles he doesn't benefit from, etc.

Today's beta male allows women to define what a "real man" is (see #2) and of course.. women will always define a real man based on what most benefits her.

It has reached the point where a man who is not "getting women" is laughed at and shamed by not only women.. but other men (called an AFC). This is because women have convinced men that they have no purpose on earth outside of serving and pleasing women.

These are just some things I believe the men of SoSuave need to think deeply about for 2015.. if they haven't already. Happy Holidays.
Bro I think you are confusing the issues, you are trying to fight what is the societal norm now. It's not that black and white.

It's not about being in "relationships" or who it benefits or the price you have pay, it's about the image you project. If you don't have a girlfriend or wife on your arm by a certain age, people make assumptions and think there is something wrong with you. You could be alpha, beta, gamma, delta, cappa, whatever the heck people are called these days, but if no girl with you, there is something weird going on.

Your paragraphs make perfect sense and you are right, but who are we trying to convince of this? People here cannot print them out and read them to their coworkers at their X-mas party, or to the concierge at the play, or to the valet at the restaurant. Society doesn't care what the labour pains are, they just want the baby.

That does not mean:

1) be a beta guy
2) spend thousands and thousands on her
3) get put down by her
4) force a relationship because people are talking

But if you are not in a relationship by a certain age, it doesn't look right to others. That does not mean anyone ever has to be in a relationship if they don't want to. :up:
 

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I thought it about it and I have to agree with OP, though I never analyzed it in those terms.

He's saying that the natural state of men is to have as many women as possible, that men get bored with women if they're around long enough and hence, ipso facto, the very concept of a monogamous LTR is a bad deal for men.

I can't really come up with an argument to rebut that.

The only practical issue I see is that no man (currently) on earth has so much power that he can have a harem of women as extensive as his sexual desires. There are no sultans with 10,000 concubines these days. And even if there were, how many men could achieve that dream? A few in history. Power that great is unattainable for 99.99999999% of men, no matter how awesome they are.

Therefore, men have to compromise to some degree. Holding your nose and dealing with LTRs in one way or another is unavoidable.

I suppose you could make the following equation:

(number of girls you're banging) * (their hotness) / (the amount of bullsh*t such as LTRs, gifts, etc you have to put up with from them) = your alphaness
 

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Execellent post Poon King. Do yourself a favour and learn to ignore beta's instead of arguing with them. Just post what you think and ignore anyone who isn't inline with it. You wouldn't want to get banned now would you ;) .
 

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I need sex.

I dont know about yall....

Why would i work to be at a place where my hard as a rock c0ck cant be happy?

You guys that dont need it can sit on the bench. Moar 4 me.

GTFO....youre mentally castrating urselves u unloving fvcks
 

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I agree with the OP except this:

Poon King said:
*Man doesn't fight for woman's honor = Loser
*Man physically assaults woman (this contradicts the first one) = Loser
Fighting for a woman's honor means fighting other men, not beating her up!

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You can not change your genes
This actually isn't true. Your genes are a composite of your diet and your that of your ancestors. If you dramatically improve your diet, your genes will improve, slowly. Beauty is perfect health.

captain55 said:
Unless you're (model potential), or have a lot of money women are not going to be throwing themselves at you.
This isn't true either. It's more about the pass/fail test and checklist they go through. You don't have to be rich, but you can't be broke. You don't have to be a model, but you can't be unattractive. When you eliminate all the bad things, you become a magnet.

And when you get it right, you will be so much hotter than a hot girl that you can trade all the way down to a hot girl who is a generation younger.
 

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_sideways_ said:
I need sex.

I dont know about yall....

Why would i work to be at a place where my hard as a rock c0ck cant be happy?

You guys that dont need it can sit on the bench. Moar 4 me.

GTFO....youre mentally castrating urselves u unloving fvcks
We all need sex.

I think just about every man on SoSuave would agree with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HUZPXOx5k
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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