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[Throttle]

Here is the rule!!!!! Ask a girl ONCE - if she says "No"" and you and her don't come up with an alternative date/plan then don't call her again!!! An interested girl will make an attempt to see you within one week under normal circumstances excluding illness or death!!!

or find yourself asking "why why why?" again and again..... when you're leaving voicemails left & right, there's nothing to help you gauge her interest level.

 

[Vulpine]

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Here is the rule!!!!! Ask a girl ONCE - if she says "No"" and you and her don't come up with an alternative date/plan then don't call that hor again!!! An interested girl will make an attempt to see you within one week under normal circumstances excluding illness or death!!!

 

[Last Man Standing]

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Mr. Capt'n SAV-A-HO to the rescue!!!!

 

[Crank_It_Up]

Well, I went ahead and met her for lunch today. It went well. Got a nice goodbye kiss and she even invited me to a wedding in a few weeks.. I told her I'd get back to her.

Her birthday is later this week, unfortunately.. I am having problems deciding if it's too early to do something at all, or if I do do something, just what.. I guarantee it won't be much but I am having trouble deciding.. All I told her for now was "If I dont see you, happy birthday, I have a bag of depends I meant to bring you but I forgot, old fart!" :-D

I really wish it could go somewhere with this chick, but by guard is UBER high now and it will be for a while..

sounds like she wants to see you but has a boyfriend and never knows when they are not going to be together. Smart move asking her out to lunch, that way her boyfriend is not in the way.

 

[violator]

sounds like she wants to see you but has a boyfriend and never knows when they are not going to be together. Smart move asking her out to lunch, that way her boyfriend is not in the way.

That is a good possibility. She may well be in the middle of a relationship but does not want to dump her BF until she is sure about the othe guy. In the meantime she is trying to keep him around by feigning interest until she decides what she wants to do.

Pretty devious but I guess many women are like that.

 

[logicallefty]

Thanks again for all the good responses guys.

I went ahead and got her a small birthday gift (had one of my coworkers drop it off at her work and give to receptionist). She called me immediately and I haven't talked to her sense then. I am at the point where if she calls me and I am free, great, but I am not going to chase her anymore. I am doing what Violator suggested, protecting my heart. I could see it getting torn over this one because I really do like this chick a lot, but I am not going to let my heart into it until my brain has done lots of prescreaning first, prescreaning that will take months if not longer.

 

[Nighthawk]

By 'small' birthday gift I bet you paid more than $20. More than you'd spend on a male buddies birthday maybe. And I bet it was inappropriate, like a love-bunny or a book of AFC poetry. As innapropriate and weak as getting a co-worker delivering it to her place of work - women hate this sort of thing from bfs (see the episode of Friends when Ross starts sending Rachel **** at work - and gets dumped because of it), let alone someone in your position.

LL, I don't mean to be mean, but you are not taking the advice of this board, which is to move on. You are going to 'hold back from chasing her', but continue to fuel your oneitis from the friend-zone, and rationalize it as 'pre-screening.' Tell me I'm wrong, please.

Oh, and her line about not having been on a date for a year is probably true - though it's not the same thing as not having been f*cked for a year. (Hot) women often view the traditional date as a chore occasionally worth it for the free food and attention and worth about a kiss on the cheek in return. To get their rocks off they let an alpha take them in the heat of the moment, and get extra kicks waiting for the bastard not to call again.

Oh, but I'm sure this little angel is different.

 

[violator]

Thanks again for all the good responses guys.

I went ahead and got her a small birthday gift (had one of my coworkers drop it off at her work and give to receptionist). She called me immediately and I haven't talked to her sense then. I am at the point where if she calls me and I am free, great, but I am not going to chase her anymore. I am doing what Violator suggested, protecting my heart. I could see it getting torn over this one because I really do like this chick a lot, but I am not going to let my heart into it until my brain has done lots of prescreaning first, prescreaning that will take months if not longer.

Stop giving her gifts. Dont reward women for doing nothing for you.

What has she done for you. Nothing. The only thing she has done is jerk you around for a couple of weeks. You should have given her a gift only after plowing the **** out of her which you did not do.

Nighthawk is correct. You have been wussified by your actions by giving her something for nothing.

 

[KneghtRyder]

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

:kick:
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president bush want a new personal speech corrector

 

[logicallefty]

The gift was a DVD of a movie she wanted, not the least bit of an AFC one, and it was under 20 bux. She called me last night and wanted to know if I wanted to go out tonight, and we are. I'm keeping my guard high and not getting the least bit excited for 3-4 months. That seems to be the magic number.

I think what happened here is that she was busy and had IL around 40-50%. Once she realized that I wasn't going to chase her anymore when I told her I was "done", I think I increased it to 80-90%. Still, I agree with a lot of what you guys have said in this thread. The thing that sticks out most as I read through the whole thread again is when "JustDoItAlways" talked about a chick being "undateable". That's really the bottom line, isn't it? And at one time my chick was being undateable, but now, it seems by her actions like she is dateable once again. Again, I am giving it 3-4 months and I won't be initiating anything with her for at least another 1 month. But if she keeps initiating it with me, I will go, but be guarded. She also invited me to a friend's wedding with her in a few weeks. I said "Oh what you wanna show me off already, I am flattered, but I'm also not yours to show off yet". She said "maybe you will be by then".. I said "well,that's a subject for another time but for now I will let you borrow me to show off even if I'm not actually yours. For a little extra fee I will even let you tell them that I am yours even if I ain't!!" . Like I said, 3-4 months. I won't even think about being exclusive with her until then.

 

[Sinistar]

Like I said, 3-4 months. I won't even think about being exclusive with her until then

Nighthawk said what needed to be said You've got a full-on case of one-itis. Whether you meant to say it or not, your text simply says "I'm going to wait for 3-4 months for this one woman".

And stuff like this wreaks AFC/One-Itis yuck....

She called me last night and wanted to know if I wanted to go out tonight, and we are.

...who's wearing the pants?

And at one time my chick was being undateable, but now, it seems by her actions like she is dateable once again.

...I call BS! All women are dateable - just takes the right guy. Re-read the above quote - it is a textbook rationalization/jusitification - do you see it?

Again, I am giving it 3-4 months and I won't be initiating anything with her for at least another 1 month.

...so you're giving it 3-4 months - YET - you'll be initiating with a month - huh?

I said "well,that's a subject for another time but for now I will let you borrow me to show off even if I'm not actually yours. For a little extra fee I will even let you tell them that I am yours even if I ain't!!"

...chump giberish.

I'll give you one thing - your prediction of 3-4 months is probably right on. It's roughly the amount of time a woman with marginal desire/IL will put up with a beta. At that point she will *have had* one or more better options (if you get my drift) and someone in your role will no longer be required (she'll activate the final ejection sequence).

However, given all the above - I recommend he continue his current course of action. With about 98% certainty, we know what's going to happen. I'm willing to bet that even logicallefty *feels* at some level that it's a dead end. I think it's up to the OP to determine if that 2% uncertainty is worth the effort and emotional investment.

 

[Tazman]

I have a hunch that she's buttering you up for the time being so that you'll attend this wedding. I think you might be the safest bet for her to bring because she doesn't want to show up alone and she's comfortable with you, you pose no threat, she already knows you're crazy about her.

Hey, if you get sex before the wedding I say move forward, if not, I'd cut her loose. Don't let her get only what she wants while you climb up hill trying to get what YOU want.

 

[Vulpine]

Lefty,

I'm left-handed, so let me speak in terms you can understand:

You're toov atailable: texts, e-mails, calls...

Not honly tat, but now you're buying her gifts?

You're buying a chig you aren't fugging gifts?

Why done you just gift her flowvers or chocolates???

Oh, man...

Can't you see yourself chasing?

:kick:

She jumps through YOUR hoops - not vice versa.

Come on, dude, think for a minute: don't you feel like a puppy? Stop it.

 

[white sox bill]

Lefty,

I'm left-handed, so let me speak in terms you can understand:

You're toov atailable: texts, e-mails, calls...

Not honly tat, but now you're buying her gifts?

You're buying a chig you aren't fugging gifts?

Why done you just gift her flowvers or chocolates???

Oh, man...

Can't you see yourself chasing?

:kick:

She jumps through YOUR hoops - not vice versa.

Come on, dude, think for a minute: don't you feel like a puppy? Stop it.

OK Vulpine, sure redneck ME about being a flatlander, but not LogicalLefty. I see how ya are

 

[Vulpine]

OK Vulpine, sure redneck ME about being a flatlander, but not LogicalLefty. I see how ya are

Funny you should mention it, WSB. I was actually going to suggest that YOU help him: you flatlanders have some obscure logic (if you can call it that) that most of the world can't follow, or appeal to. So, you can speak his language far better than I could ever pretend to.

 

[logicallefty]

I honestly think I'm on the right track now guys. I will keep yas posted fo sho..

We had yet another good date on Tuesday. The next one is up to her, I am done chasing her for the time being.. I started out with a bad case of OneItus but I think I am over it. Even got me a number yesterday from another chick, a chick I have known my whole life but hadn't seen in several years. She and I will be going out the weekend after this I believe.

I'm not a redneck but ya'all can call me one if you want, I won't take offense. I live in the middle of redneck territory Illinois and am not ashamed to be associated with em!! I just happen to have a few less kitchen sinks in my yard, a few more teeth, a few less chickens running around, a nicer looking pickup truck, and I don't listen to hillbilly country music! LMAO!!

 

[Vulpine]

I'm not a redneck but ya'all can call me one if you want, I won't take offense.

Don't listen to whitesoxbill, he's a flatlander. I didn't, nor do I intend to, call anyone a redneck.

I'm guessing that "redneck" is a Fibbernese verb that's interchangeable with "harrass".

 

[logicallefty]

Don't listen to whitesoxbill, he's a flatlander. I didn't, nor do I intend to, call anyone a redneck.

I'm guessing that "redneck" is a Fibbernese verb that's interchangeable with "harrass".

In the redneck community it is used like black folks use the word n***er, but it's not considered AS harsh. It can be used in both a positive and negative context depending on the parties using it. If you are one yourself and you call someone a redneck who also is, it's cool.. If you aren't one and you call someone a redneck that is, they may get offended. Or you could just be like me and not be one but not care if someone calls you one, because most of the true "rednecks" I know are really good people. Strange, but good.

 

[white sox bill]

Funny you should mention it, WSB. I was actually going to suggest that YOU help him: you flatlanders have some obscure logic (if you can call it that) that most of the world can't follow, or appeal to. So, you can speak his language far better than I could ever pretend to.

Great idea Vulpine....OK LogicalLefty, first things first
*Go out and get a Abe Lincoln hat that has his likeness towering 1 foot above your head. I hear in another state somewhere they wear swiss cheese as hats
*Always put deer season ahead of ANYTHING, ahead of pvussy,ahead of making money, ahead of family etc. Big Rack now means a 12 point Buck, not big breasts.
*When paying State taxes, always pay 50% more than what is needed.
*When the name Rex Grossman comes up, get down on your knees and praise. In the land of Green and Gold they do the same for somebody named Brett

Following these simple suggestions will help your situation greatly!

 

[white sox bill]

Don't listen to whitesoxbill, he's a flatlander. I didn't, nor do I intend to, call anyone a redneck.

I'm guessing that "redneck" is a Fibbernese verb that's interchangeable with "harrass".

Can't seem to find Fibbernese in my Websters Vulpine. Care to elaberate?

Logical didn't mean to hijack your thread. You have some good advice here though. Bottom line is become aloof. Be just out of reach with her. Women are like cats, they like to chase the mouse around the floor....but if they were to stand still, the cat wouldn't give it a second look.