Why the sudden change in her behavior

Bagofnuts

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ive known her for almost 2 months and she calls me every night , text excitably, we go out and do couple stuff, of course I do the push and pull, sometimes I don't answer her calls pretend im asleep, take awhile to reply text , make sure o seem like other women are after me
But this week she completely went mia, it's the holiday season she doesn't have work, she told me she'll spend more time with me but ended up setting up parties for her ex school mates and church mates , didn't text or call me, replies uninterestedly and lied to me about missing my call when she deliberately didn't pick up

Continue or fly
 

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Hard to give you a precise answers with such low infos but when you said that she is organizing parties for her other friends, all it comes in my mind is some b1tch telling her that she needs to get more "empowered" and independant or to question the status quo in your relationship...all it takes is some cvnt to drop a drip of poison in your girl mind to screw up everything.

Its not a stereotype that popular wisdom about bad acquaitances that move to the wrong way a once perfect person.

Also dont forget that a group of girl friends tend to create coesion by trying to set a girl connected to an outsider with some other guy which is connected to the group.

Imagine a group of 4 girls, 3 of which are dating 3 guys all friends to each other with a fourth guy single and the fourth girl dating an outsider...what do you think they will try to do other than break the relation and fix the girl with the missing guy.
 

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That's all the info I have , I can't think of any thing i did or she did, everything was fine on Sunday
 

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if you want to succeed in anything in your life you should know how to moderately use your resources and know where/what is the perfect balance is.

in dating men should know how much attention to give and be gone every now and then. This should be done naturally.
 

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Holiday season is the exception to the rule. She is likely busy with family and friends. I wouldn't worry about a reduction in contact until after the holidays.

If this keeps up then it's a sign that she feels things are moving too fast... give her space and see what happens.
 

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Im so confused tho, + she's not been replying to my text , she's only reading them, i sent one or two and she has time to post instagram pictures and go clubbing
 

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Bagofnuts said:
Im so confused tho, + she's not been replying to my text , she's only reading them, i sent one or two and she has time to post instagram pictures and go clubbing
Cease any activity, stop writing.
 

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Well the only one she didn't reply to is > is everything ok?
Stop till when ?
 

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It's what I call the "3 Month" burnout (though in this case it happened much faster). It's a mistake a LOT of guys make, where they meet a new girl, get her interested, and then think the best course of action is to see or be in contact with her every single day. By the 2nd or 3rd month the girl becomes more and more disinterested because you're spending so much time with her that you are (a) no longer a challenge (because she knows she'll see you every day); (b) no longer mysterious (because she probably feels you've told her everything about yourself); and (c) somewhat annoying (because she's probably tired of certain habits of yours that she's been privy to seeing on a regular basis).

This is why it's crucial within the first 3 months to only see her once or twice a week, and to limit how often you call/text her to when you're setting up a date to see her. As of right now, she's probably needing a break from you due to "BagOfNuts Overload." So give it to her - there's no need to keep contacting her because she knows you exist and would hit you back if she wanted to. Give it like a week (or the rest of the holiday - dude above was right, holidays are the worst time to be dating a newbie), then CALL her and ask to go out again. If she doesn't answer the phone or return the call, you'll know what it means. Hope this helps!
 

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Well her birthday is on new year so.. Guess I don't have to get her anything ? I really don't wanna commit into buying something then not having someone to give it to
She even planned to go for a picnic tmr... But that too seems to have vanished

Thanks guys for the advice , wish I knew what's up but I guess it's time to sit back
 

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Most men are not pragmatic enough with women. They are always looking to GIVE instead of take. But every beta is using this strategy so its boring.

The best course of action with women is always to offer as little as possible while trying to TAKE as much as possible. Women need to invest to commit. No investment and sacrifice on her part makes it easy to move on and forget about you. You must TAKE from her as much as you can. The hotter she is, the more ruthless you must be.

I have one friend who used to borrow money from women and never pay it back. He would also borrow their cars instead of driving his own. It seemed to keep the women around.. because they were investing and it made them feel important. Like they were useful outside of sex. But they weren't because he was sleeping with other women.. sometimes in the same car he borrowed from the first woman.

Stop giving so much and you won't care as much. This goes for emotional energy as well. Don't think about her unless you are porking her. Out of sight out of mind.

But the most important thing to remember is any woman who doesn't kiss your ass in a relationship is either a feminist or not that interested. If you are making a thread about a woman.. then you are already in the beta position.
 

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When you can notice a sudden change in behavior, something is happening. And no, it is not towards the better. Something's starting to go rotten. Start prepping for the worse. If it doesn't happen, and something is legit, fine, but be prepared to walk, nonetheless. The feeling sux huge, hairy, sweaty gorilla ball sac, but hang in there, it'll make you a better man.

As far as reason, it could be anything, so stop worrying about the cause, it'll drive you nuts. Stop all texting. Do not ask her anything anymore (if she's ok), and just try and have some fun for New Year's. Wait it out and see what happens, it's all you can do for now. It's always around the holidays when girls pull this bullshıt, so stay cool.
 

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Thanks vlad, she replied my is everything ok text a day after and said "hey nothing's wrong , just not feeling much these days" and i actually answer what feels?

Seems pretty f up to me but thankfully I woke up feeling indifferent that day
 

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What poonking said is very true.

I also want to add and say that you should never ever assume that anything is permanent with a woman. Don't ever get used to the idea of her texting you good mornings all the time or asking to come over etc.

Always have your mind ready that things can change at the drop of a hat.

Women like to condition men to expect a certain string of behaviors and then take it away unexpectedly to see how you react.

They do this to test if your behavior is a facade or if it's the real deal.

If you start texting her incessantly or get needy when she withdraws attention, she will know that deep down, you're just a beta pretending to be an omega.

However, if she withdraws attention and you just laugh to yourself and go out and find other women. She will start wondering to herself why you're not chasing her. Her primal instincts will kick in to check up on you.

Don't ask her out or anything. Just reply casually to her. If she has interest in you, it won't be long before she's begging to come over or hinting at dates with you.
 

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If something feels "off" in your gut, it usually is. Trust your instinct man. In my experience whenever I trust my gut that something is off, it's almost always right. Then my mind tries to convince me otherwise, and pretends for awhile like nothing happened. Then I come back full circle and realize I was right. It's alright, but you have to catch it early before it spirals out of control. And what I mean by that is be willing to walk away (and do) before she has a chance to dump you, to preserve your self respect and raise your self worth. Once the red flags are there, start withdrawing immediately.

It sounds (to me) like she is losing interest. Your best bet is to cool down and step back. Let her come chasing you again.

Think of your relationship with this girl as a brick house. Until now, the house has been sturdy. No cracks, leaks, locks secure, furnace seems to be working just fine.

Now all of a sudden it's starting to break down a little. The water pipes are leaking, the locks are loose. You smell smoke but can't tell where it's coming from. Now the fire alarm is going off. Get the fvck out before you get burned.

And by burned I mean putting yourself in a position where you keep chasing her and she dumps you, taking all your dignity in the process, leaving you empty with heartache.

So just play it cool, and now that she's pulled some disrespectful sh*t by lying to you about why she didn't pick up her phone, and not contacting you, that means she has to do even MORE to earn your respect back.

Remember, it's not a matter of you winning her back. It's HER winning YOU back, and her showing you she is worthy of it after she disrespected you. Because you're the prize. From there you can either decide she isn't worth your time, or give her another chance on YOUR terms. And always make her chase you more instead of vice versa, that way you never lose the upper hand. That means if her IL is a 10, yours is a 5. If hers is a 5, yours is a 2. If hers is a 1 (like it is now) yours is -10. You get the gist of it.
 

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If this happens, soft next (or hard if you thing she's cheating). Regardless, her interest is dropping or she's trying to gain power. Better have a backup ready!

Dump her before she dumps you.
 

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Mauser96 said:
Fvck I love this place.

There is so much good quality stuff here. I am in a sitch right now where I was just the victim of a HEAVY manipulation attempt. Handled it well, but if things go to **** I will post the whole story. It will be LONNNGG but worth the read.
Post it anyway for the good of the forum. We'll give you our thoughts in bold :up:
 

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Haha okay buddy. No rush.
 
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