Why the rise in sexless men/simps is the final blow to dating

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Dude it has always been like that.

Even on grandpas time. If you're a young stud then young chicks don't want you. They want the older guys with already established resources and careers.

If you're +18 "forget" about chicks in your age; work on yourself and the rest will come later.

Nothing new here.

//End whining simp thread here.
that literally does nothing… in fact, you’re just restating my OP. A desperate older guy with money is just going to bail out a washed up post wall woman or a sloot.
 

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Here is a graph showing the rise of male virginity over the years. This is just virginity, but I count men that get sex once a blue moon virgins too because they can be the most desperate.



My theory is that these men are going to either A) get older with a lot of money saved up and start bailing women out of their situations from long term bad decisions or B) go crazy lol

Either way, none of these scenarios get better. In addition, the more desperate older men with money, the harder it gets for younger men in general because a 18 year old guy with nothing to his name is now competing against a 28 year old guy with his own place, car, and able to take girls out to clubs, restaurants, vacations, and etc. I'm so glad I was born before 1997 lol
We are headed for a societal collapes. If it was only a minority I'd say society could be saved,...but I think it is getting to be the majority. Worse yet, they are so deeply "conditioned" that if you try to explain their situaition to them and educate them you get attacked. They don't want "real" help, they don't want "fixed",...they want their fantasy world that isn't real to somehow work their way. You guys should join me on Reddit someday and help fight off the SIMPs, Feminists, & White Knights that are burying guys (who are already buried to their chin) with their stupid advice. They are the crabs pulling the other crabs back in the bucket to keep them from escaping. I'm one of maybe 2 or 3 (on a good day) telling the truth in /r/AskMenAdvice.
 

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that literally does nothing… in fact, you’re just restating my OP. A desperate older guy with money is just going to bail out a washed up post wall woman or a sloot.
Not really.
I'm saying that it always been like this. You are just complaining about it. (Not attempting to attack you or anything, just saying).

Why make a whining thread about "How bad it is" when it always has been like this since the tide of the centuries?
It is not more bad now than back then when grandpa was a player or his dad for that sake. The rules of the game is the same as female nature is what it is and has not changed for thousands of years. So you need to deal with that circumstance or condition (for a better word if you will), instead and make it work, rather than just go full snowflake mode and cry about it; which in my personal opinion is quite counter productive and somewhat boring.

Have you ever heard people complain over gravity?
Highly likely not because people know that they cannot do anything about it. So it is utterly pointless to do so.
It is just there as a natural part of living on this space rock. So we just have learn to deal with it. Right? ;)

Same applies here:
You cannot complain over female human nature which is DNA encoded into each new born girl. Its part of their nature and so you cannot change it. You simply just need to deal with it without complaining about it and make it work for you by figuring it out.

Too much of these complaining threads here in the forums at the moment in my opinion about "how bad/how hard it is".
It brings nothing new or productive to the community as a whole..

My 5 cents.

//now end thread lol :lol::devil:
 
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We are headed for a societal collapes.
I agree. When this happens, the power will swing back to men. Females can't survive on their own. It will then be "What can you do for me that this hot young girl can't?" No longer will men be desired just for being tall, square jaw, ect. ect. It will be desire based on intelligence, creativity and ruthlessness.
 

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Dude it has always been like that.

Even on grandpas time. If you're a young stud then young chicks don't want you. They want the older guys with already established resources and careers.

If you're +18 "forget" about chicks in your age; work on yourself and the rest will come later.

Nothing new here.

//End whining simp thread here.
This guy says he can date whomever he wants; sorry, I'm not buying it. That said, the rest of his discussion is very good.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Why is it older men “with money”, why isn’t it just “older“ men”?
cause nobody likes broke older men lol
In the main video of "Why Being a Young Man Sucks", the speaker makes a false premise. Yes, he's right that life often sucks for 15-29 year old men. He sells the false promise of men's 30s/40s being a career and poontang nirvana. It isn't for most 30s/40s men. Most 30s/40s men are thirsty men, often simps. Most men in their 30s/40s are vagina beggars trying to get the vaginal scraps of women close to their own ages. Very few 30s/40s men are living the promise that this speaker makes.

If a man isn't exceptional in his 30s/40s, he's fighting for post Wall vagina. 20-30 years ago, it used to be 30s/40s women went apshiit for beta males for their provisioning abilities. That's getting less common as a 35 year old woman can put herself out on a swipe app and get more attention than she did as a 21 year old not using websites/apps. She inflates her worth.

Most 30s/40s men don't end up fulfilling their promise and are either broke older man or unexeptional older men.

As a 38 year old, I haven't seen an increase in clamoring for me in my 30s as compared to my 20s. I've had to work equally hard to get vagina in both eras.

The red pill “solution” is for EVERY guy to somehow become >95 percentile.
Yes, that's as ridiculous as it sounds.

HapaCels. Think about the most famous of them all.
There are a lot of incels with White fathers and Asian mothers. Lots of reasons for this. I don't want to get too deep into this. In a lot of cases, the White fathers are complete zeroes with White women and end up with an Asian woman due to rejection from White women.
 

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Here is a graph showing the rise of male virginity over the years. This is just virginity, but I count men that get sex once a blue moon virgins too because they can be the most desperate.



My theory is that these men are going to either A) get older with a lot of money saved up and start bailing women out of their situations from long term bad decisions or B) go crazy lol

Either way, none of these scenarios get better. In addition, the more desperate older men with money, the harder it gets for younger men in general because a 18 year old guy with nothing to his name is now competing against a 28 year old guy with his own place, car, and able to take girls out to clubs, restaurants, vacations, and etc. I'm so glad I was born before 1997 lol
I think, without the male role model, free access to porn and playing video games, dudes have been distracted. More females have been getting educated and more dudes are at home with their parents, playing video games and masturbating with little ambition in doing anything in life. The dudes who are on a purpose and have an education are about 1/3 of the millennials and current generation. The future does not bold well for dudes.

From NYPost in September:

 

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I think, without the male role model, free access to porn and playing video games, dudes have been distracted. More females have been getting educated and more dudes are at home with their parents, playing video games and masturbating with little ambition in doing anything in life. The dudes who are on a purpose and have an education are about 1/3 of the millennials and current generation. The future does not bold well for dudes.

From NYPost in September:

That is, according to @Bingo-Player, because guys are sexless and don't have pvssy as a motivating drive anymore. Take that post that @Bingo-Player made on the other thread - that he would be content to stay in bed all day, watch netflix and eat junk food, if he were to take a monk mode mtgow lifestyle and weren't motivated by women. Then there are other compounding issues that women have an easier time getting into the workforce after college/university while guys may still end up in their parent's house with a big student debt and a college degree. Women don't really need average/ and even above-average guys to support themselves because they can get their own careers, get their attention from social media and get their chads from online apps. Where's the motivation to want to do anything with a set-up like that? Thank RBG for messing things up for everyone back in the 70s.
 

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That is, according to @Bingo-Player, because guys are sexless and don't have pvssy as a motivating drive anymore. Take that post that @Bingo-Player made on the other thread - that he would be content to stay in bed all day, watch netflix and eat junk food, if he were to take a monk mode mtgow lifestyle and weren't motivated by women. Then there are other compounding issues that women have an easier time getting into the workforce after college/university while guys may still end up in their parent's house with a big student debt and a college degree. Women don't really need average/ and even above-average guys to support themselves because they can get their own careers, get their attention from social media and get their chads from online apps. Where's the motivation to want to do anything with a set-up like that? Thank RBG for messing things up for everyone back in the 70s.
The motivation is for one's self, not for sex or female attention. All dudes who are worth a spit should have a goal in making their own personal dent in the universe.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Plenty of Hapas with White fathers turn out to be completely normal, many celebs in Korea have white fathers. Also elliot rodgers dad was jewish not white.

Im pretty sure elliot rodger was on the spectrum
While his sister was normal
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Nobody takes an issue to female hapas. The male hapas are screwed. You really think those girls fawning over you would be interested if you were half Asian? This is how they would treat your son. Go and google all the hapa reddits where hapa guys hate their parents for dooming them to inceldom. They cant get whites, asians or other hapas. The fact you are comparing S Korean celebrities to average white guys speaks volumes. Guess even you have to admit they have the same SMV between the lines.
 

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You know there is a problem when overweight women are demanding men be in shape in order to date them.....I've seen this several times in the real world and not just stories posted on the internet. I can cite a couple fatties in my area that I know of who had harems of men on their phones that were practically on call.....and some of them were actually decent/good looking guys.

It's pretty well understood that females are the more selective of the sexes but given the internet, social media and dating apps it has granted them the ability to become ridiculously picky, we all know about this. I've had women say that I have a dad bod or criticize my appearance and I'm well over 6' tall and one of the fittest guys at the gym that I go to. If I deal with stuff like this I can't even imagine what it's like for the average guy. Hell, what is like for those legitimately below average men that I see whenever I'm out in public?

Not all women are this messed up, anyone saying that is far too red pill. However, there are enough of these women that exist that it has had a major impact on the dating market, both directly and indirectly. Many men will have no real clue of their worth/value and will chase after something that in reality is probably below them, I've seen this many times. Even if the women aren't super picky or delusional, if a man has been through this for long enough he becomes conditioned to behave like that with whatever comes around. Most women will find this behavior very unattractive, a messed up one would lead him on or use him for attention, free dates, etc. and therefore continuing this spiral the man is in. A more normal woman would just reject him. The end result is you have a "blue pill" man that basically stuck in this endless loop of being a simp towards women. The other possibilities are that he gives up for the most part and realizes the dating market isn't healthy for him. Another possibility is he becomes bitter and allows it to toy with his mental stability.
 

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aint no rise in simps or sexless men.. there always been losers since the beginning of time. but if thats what you are noticing, u probably spendin too much time on the internet or around stone cold losers/squares.

all the people around me getting it in on the regular. i dont hang around any squares, l7 muhfuccas ... only people who are about making money and playin the game strong

surround yaself with people you aim to be like-- never hang around lames or squares for the sake of friends
 

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Nobody takes an issue to female hapas. The male hapas are screwed. You really think those girls fawning over you would be interested if you were half Asian? This is how they would treat your son. Go and google all the hapa reddits where hapa guys hate their parents for dooming them to inceldom. They cant get whites, asians or other hapas. The fact you are comparing S Korean celebrities to average white guys speaks volumes. Guess even you have to admit they have the same SMV between the lines.
Asian men can attract Asian women (even if their preference in white men) so why couldn't a half Asian man? I would actually think they have it easier than a full Asian.
 

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Asian men can attract Asian women (even if their preference in white men) so why couldn't a half Asian man? I would actually think they have it easier than a full Asian.
You don't say?

It's not a matter of preference...they are basically gods to them.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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