Guoy Darko said:
Your argument untill now has been "being gay is not natural and a fault of nature. For that reason gays shouldn't be able to get married."
No, your butchering my argument. I said homosexuality is a genetic defect(in the cases where it is inborn, of course sometimes it's actually
chosen for example all the ass-rape in prison) in sexual preference. The fact that's it's a genetic defect per se has nothing to do with why I don't support gay marriage. Otherwise I'd have to think an albino shouldn't get married either. Stop putting words in my mouth. If a male albino wants to marry another male albino, I'd be against it. If the male albino wants to marry a female albino, I support it. Their genetic defect is irrelevent, it's a a male/female thing.
Well, getting married is just an oath of love from one person to another. If people are happy with eachother and they love one another they want to promise eachother an oath! They get married! Off course traditionally it has been an oath between a man and a woman, but mostly because of traditions and religious beliefs.
It's also tradition and religious beliefs that told us we can't have sex with kids. Because it was accepted for men to fvck boys in ancient Greece. So do you have a problem with that too? Just because it comes from tradition? We also don't allow a guy to marry his own sister because of tradition. I guess that's wrong too. Or for 4 people to have a group marriage. I guess next we should throw all of it out the window so that legally, a father can legally marry his sons(kill 3 taboos at once, incest and gay and polygamous marriage) and we as a society have to embrace and respect it. Hey, what if they love each other, who are we to judge it right? That's what the liberal thinks.
I don't say anything is wrong with that..... until now..... but things evolve! Times change! And people now see homosexuality is not that weird. About 5-10% of all people on this planet are gay.
If you are still promoting this nonsense that 10% of the world is gay, then you must work for the gay lobby. That bull has been debunked long ago. Who in their right mind really believes 1 in 10 people they meet is gay???
If that's a mistake of nature or not, it doesn't matter! Because this planet is so overpopulated, there is almost no need for reproduction. Really. It's absolutely not a problem if 10% of the people on this planet do not reproduce.
Interesting, so if the planet was "underpopulated" you'd be against gay marriage?
And marriage.... Well, religion made it an oath of love between a man and a woman, just for the heck of reproduction. It's a safe bet. Today, things have evolved.
People sometimes forget that the whole idea of marriage being about love is a recent western concept born from romance novels and movies. In traditional cultures around the world, like say India or amongst orthodox Jews, the idea that people get married primarily for love is a foreign concept. They get married primarily to create families and "love" as we understand it in the west is very low down the list to the point of being almost irrelevent and they only consider whether the person will make a good husband/wife and is respectable in the community and that's basically it. It used to be same in the west and notion of marriage as primarily an expression of love is almost a brand new concept. I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessarily, but when we are talking about redefining marriage as it's been for tens of thousands of years of human history because we recently believe marriage is all about love rather than creating families, then we just need to recognize the historical context. If I get married, it ain't going to be for love, it's going to be for the purpose of starting a family. If it's only about love, why the hell do I need to get married?? I can love a girlfriend just fine and not be legally obligated to fork over half my assets if she decides she no longer "loves" me and wants to bouce.
But it's just too ****ing easy to give in too tradition. Too easy. It's probaly nurture that made you this way. I'm sorry for you. But please don't stand in the way of people want to be happy with eachother.
Gimme a break. We're standing in the way of gays being happy? I've met many couples who aren't married and they are with their significant others and happy. Hell, some would even argue that marriage makes people less happy. So don't give me this crap that gays cannot be happy they are married. This whole gay marriage movement isn't about making gays happy, they could have all the same rights under civil unions. The gay marriage movement as I've said numerous times is primarily about
forcing society to accept homosexuality as being equally preferable to heterosexuality. Want proof? Ask any gay marriage supporter one question. If it was obvious from a very young age that your son was going to grow up to be gay and you could give him a pill to change him straight, would you do it? They will say no every time.