Why Online Dating(OLD) is the best option for most men

[SW15]

I consider it a warm approach because y'all are in the same class together and communication isn't seen as potentially taboo. Cold Approaching to me is outright approaching a woman in the blue without any social backing.

Nowhere did @All_Kindz_Of_Gainz mention a dance class. I interpreted it as him going to nightclubs with various styles of Latin music.

We can talk about dance classes in general. Classes in general are debatable about whether they are cold approach or warm approach. I believe approaching in classes (fitness, dance style, academic) as cold approaching. In these situations, you're trying to spark a connection from nothing other than attending the same class. Non-academic classes have a different vibe than academic classes, even the 200-300 person lecture hall style classes at larger public universities.

As someone who has approached in fitness classes vs. outdoors in parks and on walking/hiking paths, I can tell you that fitness class approaches are easier than dead stopping a woman in a park or on a path.

Below is a 2012 article Roosh wrote about street game and it's upsides/downsides.

Roosh called street game the most difficult venue hands down back in 2012.

I would rate park and walking path game alongside street game in terms of difficulty.

How To Pick Up Girls On The Street

 

[SW15]

Classes are not that good honestly, once in a blue moon there is good looking girl.

In general, dancing classes are a loss leader. They are useful to take to get good enough in a style of dance and then go to a club that plays that style of music and has a dance floor.

A group fitness class is a perfectly acceptable place to meet women and arrange dates. Despite great ratios at fitness classes, most women are not that sociable before and after fitness classes. Over the years, I've been to fitness classes at a few different venues and seen the same trend regard of venue.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I post this as someone who’s in the Latin dance scene.

Most Latin clubs in the United States salsa dance venues have beginner classes that are usually an hour before the clubs open. They are people that want to brush up or people that have never danced salsa there for the first time. This alone lets you see new blood.

That said, the vibe in Latin dance clubs is very convivial. You are expected to pick partner and go dance as a man. You already have preapproval to approach. I can’t think in the past few years a time that I have approached a woman who is not otherwise engaged at a dance club that I have asked to dance that has not danced with me.

The more advanced you are, and I can’t emphasize enough: confident, smiling and having fun the more you’ll be noticed by others, and I mean women.

In the social groups which may be impromptu, women talk and hang out together a lot, and they know who the good sexy dancers are. After some time women start asking you to dance if you’re not dancing.

The beauty of it is that there is always a shortage of male dance partners. If you’re at least a seven, you’re well groomed and well dressed you’re gonna have >10 women in your arms every night. You are supposed to touch the woman. If you’re observant of female body language, and you move gracefully with your hands, you can gauge her interest level.

In summary it is a direct approach environment where direct approach is encouraged and expected. For a skilled male it is a feeding frenzy.

It is common wisdom among women that if you can dance you can fnck. Again, pre approval and a display of high value.

try it

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I post this as someone who’s in the Latin dance scene.

Most Latin clubs in the United States salsa dance venues have beginner classes that are usually an hour before the clubs open. They are people that want to brush up or people that have never danced salsa there for the first time. This alone lets you see new blood.

That said, he vibe in Latin dance clubs is very convivial. You are expected to pick partner and go dance as a man. You already have preapproval to approach. I can’t think in the past few years a time that I have approached a woman who is not otherwise engaged at a dance club that I have asked to dance that has not danced with me.

The more advanced you are, and I can’t emphasize enough: confident, smiling and having fun the more you’ll be noticed by others, and I mean women.

In the social groups which may be impromptu, women talk and hang out together a lot, and they know who the good sexy dancers are. After some time women start asking you to dance if you’re not dancing.

The beauty of it is that there is always a shortage of mail dance partners. If you’re at least a seven, you’re well groomed and well dressed you’re gonna have >10 women in your arms every night. You are supposed to touch the woman. If you’re observant of female body language, and you move gracefully with your hands, you can gauge her interest level.

In summary it is a direct approach environment where direct approach is encouraged and expected. For a skilled male it is a feeding frenzy.

It is common wisdom among women that if you can dance you can fnck. Again, pre approval and a display of high value.

try it

To Nacho one must Macho.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I post this as someone who’s in the Latin dance scene.

Most Latin clubs in the United States salsa dance venues have beginner classes that are usually an hour before the clubs open. They are people that want to brush up or people that have never danced salsa there for the first time. This alone lets you see new blood.

That said, the vibe in Latin dance clubs is very convivial. You are expected to pick partner and go dance as a man. You already have preapproval to approach. I can’t think in the past few years a time that I have approached a woman who is not otherwise engaged at a dance club that I have asked to dance that has not danced with me.

The more advanced you are, and I can’t emphasize enough: confident, smiling and having fun the more you’ll be noticed by others, and I mean women.

In the social groups which may be impromptu, women talk and hang out together a lot, and they know who the good sexy dancers are. After some time women start asking you to dance if you’re not dancing.

The beauty of it is that there is always a shortage of male dance partners. If you’re at least a seven, you’re well groomed and well dressed you’re gonna have >10 women in your arms every night. You are supposed to touch the woman. If you’re observant of female body language, and you move gracefully with your hands, you can gauge her interest level.

In summary it is a direct approach environment where direct approach is encouraged and expected. For a skilled male it is a feeding frenzy.

It is common wisdom among women that if you can dance you can fnck. Again, pre approval and a display of high value.

try it

Sounds like a warm approach to me haha.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Sounds like a warm approach to me haha.

Not arguing what it’s called. It works you can call it potato salad if you want to.

I do marvel at some posters ability to argue technical points until the cows come home, it’s such a waste of time, gentlemen! This isn’t about proving who’s better, or who’s approach works better or otherwise, it’s hopefully about getting men better sex partners.

Let’s share in the spirit of helping men, not just having to be correct.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Not arguing what it’s called. It works you can call it potato salad if you want to.

I do marvel at some posters ability to argue technical points until the cows come home, it’s such a waste of time, gentlemen! This isn’t about proving who’s better, or who’s approach works better or otherwise, it’s hopefully about getting men better sex partners.

Let’s share in the spirit of helping men, not just having to be correct.

I would argue that it's classification is important judging that there's three different distinct approach methods. Since I cannot edit the topic title, I will explain what type of people benefit from OLD.

1). Independent/lone wolf style men
2). Post college grad men outside recently relocated.
3). Minority Men outside their respective communities
4). Busy men on their purpose and grind.

 

[Bigpapa]

This is a cringe thread

Most women above average women do not have a tinder profile mainly because of the quality of men they see is really bad

if you want to bang from the bottom of the barrel, then yeah might be a decent strategy… otherwise just go for game in real life

 

[DreamAgain]

Not arguing what it’s called. It works you can call it potato salad if you want to.

I do marvel at some posters ability to argue technical points until the cows come home, it’s such a waste of time, gentlemen! This isn’t about proving who’s better, or who’s approach works better or otherwise, it’s hopefully about getting men better sex partners.

Let’s share in the spirit of helping men, not just having to be correct.

Dance classes have intrigued me. However, I have never went because I personally find it cringe, because I find dancing to be a very feminine activity, like ballet, etc.

It is basically an exhibition of one's body solely for the purpose of visual stimulation, as opposed to other sports that are games and have an objective to be completed to win the game. Tennis I think is a much better co-ed activity, or soccer.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

For those who think dance is effeminate, look up Mikhail Baryshnikov. He was THE male leading the Kirov, then the Bolshoi, until he defected during the Cold War in Canada, and danced with the ABT and the NYC Ballet. In his time, he had relationships with some of the most desirable women. He was considered the epitome of masculinity. I guarantee you that his notch count is excessive.

 

[SW15]

Tennis I think is a much better co-ed activity, or soccer.

Tennis is not a good way to meet women under 35.

The most serious recreational players are males. Despite its reputation as a female friendly sport, it really isn't in the most desirable age brackets.

Here's an experiment you can run for free.

Go to your public tennis courts and observe the players. You'll notice its a sausage fest. You will not see a lot of younger women playing singles matches against each other. When women are playing tennis, it is usually with a man such as a boyfriend, husband, brother, cousin, or any other male. Typically, it is a boyfriend.

While I have gotten dates from playing tennis, the number of dates I've gotten and the outcomes of these dates would not be a justification to play tennis.

Private, country or racquet clubs have better ratios than the public courts. However, at private clubs, it is mostly women 35+ with children. Some of these women are divorcees. The highest probability girlfriend most men can get at a private club is a 35-50 year old divorcee with children. Even still, the middle aged women typically at country and racquet clubs playing tennis are far more likely to be married than divorced.

Soccer is a better option for meeting women. They will generally be women 5'8" and under. There are decent co-ed soccer league options. This is probably the best overall one because soccer women are more likely to be typical female heights so most men will probably have the best options for meeting women through a sport with soccer.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is a cringe thread

Most women above average women do not have a tinder profile mainly because of the quality of men they see is really bad

if you want to bang from the bottom of the barrel, then yeah might be a decent strategy… otherwise just go for game in real life

I hate this argument. I can literally say the same thing for cold approaching. There’s no data that supports this claim.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Tennis is not a good way to meet women under 35.

The most serious recreational players are males. Despite its reputation as a female friendly sport, it really isn't in the most desirable age brackets.

Here's an experiment you can run for free.

Go to your public tennis courts and observe the players. You'll notice its a sausage fest. You will not see a lot of younger women playing singles matches against each other. When women are playing tennis, it is usually with a man such as a boyfriend, husband, brother, cousin, or any other male. Typically, it is a boyfriend.

While I have gotten dates from playing tennis, the number of dates I've gotten and the outcomes of these dates would not be a justification to play tennis.

Private, country or racquet clubs have better ratios than the public courts. However, at private clubs, it is mostly women 35+ with children. Some of these women are divorcees. The highest probability girlfriend most men can get at a private club is a 35-50 year old divorcee with children. Even still, the middle aged women typically at country and racquet clubs playing tennis are far more likely to be married than divorced.

Soccer is a better option for meeting women. They will generally be women 5'8" and under. There are decent co-ed soccer league options. This is probably the best overall one because soccer women are more likely to be typical female heights so most men will probably have the best options for meeting women through a sport with soccer.

The first girl I was talking to was in a tennis club. I could never get her on a date in person lol.

 

[SW15]

The first girl I was talking to was in a tennis club. I could never get her on a date in person lol.

What do you by tennis club? Like a private membership racquet club? How did you approach her? Swipe app or real life?

 

[CornbreadFed]

What do you by tennis club? Like a private membership racquet club? How did you approach her? Swipe app or real life?

she was on bumble and it was a private exclusive one.

 

[SW15]

she was on bumble and it was a private exclusive one.

Those are the best places to play tennis.

The country clubs that are combination golf and tennis tend to place more emphasis on golf.

Neither a racquet club nor a country club is a great place to meet women.

 

[Gamisch]

I would argue that it's classification is important judging that there's three different distinct approach methods. Since I cannot edit the topic title, I will explain what type of people benefit from OLD.

1). Independent/lone wolf style men
2). Post college grad men outside recently relocated.
3). Minority Men outside their respective communities
4). Busy men on their purpose and grind.

How do you get this information?

1. Posts mainly bathroom selfies with bad lighting. No social proof to showcase.
2 .might be true to some degree. Relocation better be a metropolitan area or he is fecked as well.
3.lol. you are not a minority or you don't know any minorities do you?
4.perhaps. but this is also the type of man who will grow tired really quick with OLD once he goes through the cesspool of bipolar women and single mothers with multiple baby daddies.

No knock on you. I like your positive vibe. But lets stay real shall we?

 

[SW15]

I will explain what type of people benefit from OLD.

1). Independent/lone wolf style men
2). Post college grad men outside recently relocated.

I am an independent/lone wolf style man. That's why the lone wolf is my avatar. I was disappointed in my experiences with swipe apps and dating websites prior to swipe apps. Non-bar approaching seems to be the best option for me, also given the goals I've had over the years. Even a Wheat Waffles video confirmed this...

As for post college men, it can be a difficult adjustment from campus life to a post college city. Those guys can do day game, night game, or online game.

 

[kavi]

I think OLD is just dominated by Chad. A Chad can kill it online, whereas IRL Chad may have poor conversational or social skills or not get the chances, on OLD Chad ie tall, good-looking, ie the type of guy every woman is going for is going to get ALOT of female attention.

Because the OLD experience is generally shallow and superficial, it suits those types of guys most. My personal opinion is that I would lose online to a chad but not IRL I would be confident against chad in the room. Im good looking enough to be a chad if I was bigger and taller and more talkative like a bro but im not that guy.

I always felt OLD esp newer Apps were just dominated by Chad player types ie tall clean-cut good looking guys outgoing etc and for that reason I always stayed away.

 

[jnMissouri]

Recently I read some sosuave OLD GOLD. A member whose name I can't remember said; "OLD is a supplement to your "normal " dating life. It might land you 2 or 3 lays extra per year but dont expect anything more."

The most nuanced and realistic pov I've read so far.

I exclusively date OLD these days, other than females at work who pursue me. I've met ALL of my gf's OLD, except one I met on a bus but didn't want a relationship with when she asked about it after a weekend in a hotel together.

I sleep with 10-15 women per year OLD and that's even though I'm in a relationship most of the year. These lays are in between relationships and are most are high income, young and without baggage. My last gf was a 26 year old Viet girl with a job paying well over 150K salary. 5 feet tall, 96 lbs, ass and legs for days and a cute AF face.

While most of the women OLD are trash, left over 35+ losers with multiple divorces, kids, etc. not all are. I had good experiences with OLD even when I was poor, but even better now with money. I'm a verified high net worth profile and it's much easier to get dates and be selective.

But for the average male living in an apartment check to check, OLD will be a waste of time. But I agree with the OP about OLD, it's very efficient.

I will say I'm now exploring venues and activities where I can meet women with common interests. Trouble is most of my interests are manly, hiking, guns, camping, etc. and not a lot of women are into those. But the nice thing about groups and activities is that you can get to know them before dating them, figure out if they are nuts.