Why No Contact Works -- Get Rid of Her

JMoney172

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Fellas,

I'll start this by saying I'm no Don Juan. I'm a recovering AFC at best. Especially since I left my latest LTR of just over a year and a half. I say "left" but in reality I was torn from it kicking and screaming. She had many of the characteristics of a "Cluster B" and suffers from PTSD from an assault she suffered in University.

I fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I was well into my study of Don Juandom when I was introduced to her by a friend's girlfriend. I fell into the classic trap. Long story short (because I'm at work on my Blackberry): she called me a "polar bear" because she perceived I was cold and unable to connect emotionally. Over the course of the relationship I reverted to my AFC roots and lost frame control. Then, once we were living together we got into an argument about her not being home. I had made dinner she was going for a "manicure and pedicure" after work and I figured a half hour...maybe 45 minutes she'd be home. No big deal. Two and a half hours later...that was the beginning of the end.

The relationship finally ended in December and I moved out into my own place. Now. After a little more than a month without her (and no contact after about the 10th of December) I'm finally recovering from the mindfvck and other mental and emotional aftermath.

The Pain of No Contact

Guys...it hurts. She was your life and now she's gone. But guess what? She's gone! No more pain, no more heartache. Now use that experience. Take time to mourn the relationship. You need it. Especially as a recovering AFC. The first two weeks were really tough for me. You're going to go through the thoughts about how bad it would actually be if you just sent her a text. Don'! Be a man! Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

A famous test pilot once said "The day I stop learning is the day I stop flying.". The same should be true of your love life. You should learn something new every single day. No matter how trivial. Anybody who says LTR breakups shouldn't affect you is either a psychopath or a first-level thinker. It is completely natural to be affected by the loss of a significant other. But take it for what it is. Learn from the experience.

Were there warning signs for me? There sure were. We broke up earlier in the relationship for 2 weeks. In that time she had already gone and slept with another guy. That should have been it for me. But I was so out of touch with reality and myself that I let it slide. Which leads nicely into my second point.

Be A Man!

Rule number one in any relationship in your life should be "be your best self.". Yeah. We've all heard it. What does it mean? It means acting with integrity. It means being true to yourself: listening to your gut. If you feel like something is wrong...it probably is. You should be the same person no matter who you are interacting with, man, woman, sister, brother, parent. It doesn't matter.

All of this academic bullsh*t we talk about here about frame control and congruency, it means "be your best self." That's it!

At the end of a relationship, look back. Think about the times you were uncomfortable with the way you were being treated. Think about when you let her put herself way above you. Use that information to be a better you in future relationships.

Breaking No Contact

Don't. No matter how much you want to talk to her. To look at her Facebook status, to read her blog. Don't! Go be yourself. Take up knitting. Get drunk and shoot some pool with your buds. Get the fvck away from the computer. Erase her from your life.

As for me. I don't know how I'm going to do that. She's entwined in my friend group. She's my best friend's girlfriend's best friend. For now. How do I maintain no contact at a house party with less than 10 people? I don't know. But I'll burn that bridge when I come to it. Most likely I'll explain to my friend. And he'll understand when I leave.

I won't be antagonistic. With girls who have "Cluster B" characteristics that's just asking for trouble. How will I react when I see her out with another guy who is thinner, taller, more alpha? I'll be cordial and I'll remove myself from the situation as quickly as possible.

This post deviated a bit from my original intention. I think I told my story and got my point across. I hope this helps somebody. It should help me. And it was a great way to kill an hour sitting in a cold chamber at work.
 

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I find it helps to picture her looks fading over time and her sexual marketability in decline. Imagine her devolving into a shrewish wench in a loveless marriage.

Then visualize yourself in the future: older, wiser, and more attractive and successful with women.

If that doesn't work, just pretend she's dead. Pretend you're grieving the actual death of someone you loved and any contact from here on in would be akin to interacting with a ghost. Create your own reality about the situation and don't let her change that in any way. Ghosts can be ignored, they will only haunt you if you pay attention to them.
 

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Okay, I've got some time at home, and I figured I'd add a quick addendum to this post, since it was originally typed sitting in a cold chamber on my Blackberry.

When you See Her

DO NOT FREAK OUT. It doesn't matter if you're a 5'2", 100lb weakling and when you see her she's with a 6'2" 240lb linebacker, you are the prize! Act like it. Be gracious, say "Hi." if you're on speaking terms. Don't bother to introduce yourself to whoever she's with (if you don't already know them). She'll either tell them (if it's a girlfriend) or make up some story about you being a pathetic loser (if it's a new victim)...then MOVE ON. This is key. Don't look like you're leaving, just get whatever you're doing in that location done, and move. Don't linger, don't spy, don't be jealous, just move on with your life.

I'll share a story. About 2 weeks after we broke up I was out with some guys from work. Age ranged from 25 to 30 so we're all relatively young, engineers and technologists (so there was the socially awkward guy of course). We'd partied pretty hard and I was feeling the effects of my consumption. As we were leaving the gentleman's club I say to my friend "we're totally going to run into my ex".

He told me "No way! You're paranoid!". So we walk into this poutine place to grab some food (poutine is AWESOME for avoiding hangovers by the way). I walk in and have total tunnel vision. So I don't see what's going on beyond the cashier, I'm focused on getting my food. Buddy walks in behind me and gives me this look that says "why are you being given bad looks?" So I finally look around and assess the situation. On my first scan I totally miss my ex, then going back I see her friend (who I then realize I almost bowled over walking into the place). Then I see my ex.

I look her in the eye, say "Oh! Hi! I didn't see you guys there." She gives me the eye roll and I try to make small talk (mistake #1). My buddy orders his food and tactfully retreats outside for a cigarette, giving me the strong hint that I should go with him. And I'm coherent enough to realize that is the best course of action.

I then proceed to lose my sh!t (mistake #2). Mostly I'm excited at my act of drunken clairvoyance, but it comes out as a lot more than that.

Mistake #1 - Trying to Make Small Talk

I was NO CONTACT. That means NO CONTACT! Don't talk to her. Say hi, do your business, leave. Done! I violated this by trying to sober up and make small talk while reeking of strippers and gin.

Mistake #2 - Losing Your Cool

You are the prize! Act like it. The Alpha male is always secure in himself and his surroundings. Act like it!
 

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JMoney172 said:
Fellas,

Especially since I left my latest LTR of just over a year and a half. I say "left" but in reality I was torn from it kicking and screaming......

......she perceived I was cold and unable to connect emotionally. Over the course of the relationship I reverted to my AFC roots and lost frame control. Then, once we were living together we got into an argument about her not being home. I had made dinner.....after work and I figured a half hour...maybe 45 minutes she'd be home. No big deal. Two and a half hours later...that was the beginning of the end.

The relationship finally ended in October and I moved out into my own place....... I'm finally recovering from the mindfvck....

We broke up earlier in the relationship for 2 weeks. In that time she had already gone and slept with another guy. That should have been it for me. But I was so out of touch with reality and myself that I let it slide.....
Man o man! I recently went through a very similar situation (quote edited to my situation). Live and learn.
 

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Cosmos said:
Man o man! I recently went through a very similar situation (quote edited to my situation). Live and learn.
I know I'm not the only one. So for you, did she exhibit "Cluster B" characteristics? I'm not sure mine was BPD, but she definitely has a history of being a victim and suffers from PTSD.

If I was smarter I would have left it for what it was at the beginning, a fling.
 

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Dear JMoney,
You have had a close escape Brother....May I ask to what extent the Posts on this site guided your actions?
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear JMoney,
You have had a close escape Brother....May I ask to what extent the Posts on this site guided your actions?
Scaramouche, Scaramouche will you do the Fandango?

Seriously though...I had completely left the site during this relationship. I went into the relationship as a little more than a recovering AFC, and then I slowly let it all go as she tightened her grip. I'm back because I realize that I have strayed from the ways of the Alpha.

Prior to this relationship, I was doing relatively well with women. But this one caught me in her snare.

So to answer your question directly: relatively little. Until now. I will not be contacting her. Period...end of story.

I had a realization at the gym today. I was going hard on the elliptical and all of a sudden an event came to me that I thought about long and hard for the rest of my cardio workout.

Listen to Your Gut

Early on in the relationship, we were at her apartment and we were messing around in the kitchen. We got to a point where I was backed up to the counter and we had our arms around eachother. I made her pull her arms out and put them in front of me. I didn't know why exactly, but I told her that I had a thing about not being able to see women's hands when there are sharp objects around (I don't really).

I don't know why I said it. Well I didn't. Until today. It was my gut telling me that she had the potential to do that to me. From now on I'll listen to the little bastard.
 
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