Jesse Pinkman
Master Don Juan
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There have been a couple of threads on how toxic male dating advice is going around so much and how toxic a lot of male dating spaces have become. There are many reasons we can point to for this such as society going in the direction it is and gender relations in general. However, I wanted to point to a reason we can all control and why toxicity is so addicting as well as tough to stop in a community.
MGTOW, Black Pill, etc.
At some point, the Red Pill which was meant for Sexual Strategy took on the "forget women period and focus on your life mission" approach. The problem is, it was not a very genuine one. Here is a bit of a newsflash, if you spend a good chunk of your day talking about how awful women are, how screwed up gender relations are, and how women are the devil, you are still putting "p*ssy on the pedestal" because you cannot get it off your mind. In fact, I'd argue that it is even worse than PUA because at least with PUA, you are going out there and actually talking to girls.
A lot of the Red Pill basically became an echo chamber where men could find community in b1tching about women without having to ever interact with one. However, they labeled themselves as not valuing women, despite the fact that most of their discussions revolve around women..........
In reality, it is addicting.
I have done it and in the moment it felt like a relief. I have wanted to talk about how bad women of certain nationalities or backgrounds are and in the moment, it felt great. It felt like a nice letting go when I could rant about how awful certain kinds of women were and get a lot of men to agree with me. That community you get of like-minded men who hate women or things about the sexual market place makes these men feel a feeling they are not too familiar with, one of finally belonging. In the short-term, it is far more addicting to spit out a red pill theory, get a lot of upvotes, a lot of likes, and a lot of compliments from your fellow men on the internet than do the hard work.
"Game" is hard and we don't say it enough.
Going out there and talking to girls you do not know is tough. Rejection is very much real and a lot of women will even be mean about it. Getting in the gym, getting a nice body, and being disciplined for months if not years about that is tough. Talking to multiple women a night and going on even when you have been rejected is tough.
PUA misled everyone, it is tough as nails to be a guy who consistently has different women with above average looks in his life. The amount of work you have to do is unreal as a man. Then to realize that there is no one on your side and society will fight tooth and nail to stop you from going after your dream of meeting hot girls is also disheartening.
You need to be a mentally and emotionally strong guy to really pull it off.
I have seen so many dudes cold approach for a bit and then quit because of how tough it actually was.
More importantly, you have to put your ego on the line and most men won't do that. You have to go out there, get humiliated, and keep doing it until you get results (obviously fixing things each time). You have to make yourself vulnerable as a guy as opposed to feeling that safety of community you'd get on an internet forum or a black pill space.
Meanwhile, theorizing and mentally masturbating are fun and addicting.
They are fun, they are addicting, and they lead to short-term happiness. It is fun to talk $hit about women. That is why the black pill has become so popular and its spread is practically inevitable.
MGTOW, Black Pill, etc.
At some point, the Red Pill which was meant for Sexual Strategy took on the "forget women period and focus on your life mission" approach. The problem is, it was not a very genuine one. Here is a bit of a newsflash, if you spend a good chunk of your day talking about how awful women are, how screwed up gender relations are, and how women are the devil, you are still putting "p*ssy on the pedestal" because you cannot get it off your mind. In fact, I'd argue that it is even worse than PUA because at least with PUA, you are going out there and actually talking to girls.
A lot of the Red Pill basically became an echo chamber where men could find community in b1tching about women without having to ever interact with one. However, they labeled themselves as not valuing women, despite the fact that most of their discussions revolve around women..........
In reality, it is addicting.
I have done it and in the moment it felt like a relief. I have wanted to talk about how bad women of certain nationalities or backgrounds are and in the moment, it felt great. It felt like a nice letting go when I could rant about how awful certain kinds of women were and get a lot of men to agree with me. That community you get of like-minded men who hate women or things about the sexual market place makes these men feel a feeling they are not too familiar with, one of finally belonging. In the short-term, it is far more addicting to spit out a red pill theory, get a lot of upvotes, a lot of likes, and a lot of compliments from your fellow men on the internet than do the hard work.
"Game" is hard and we don't say it enough.
Going out there and talking to girls you do not know is tough. Rejection is very much real and a lot of women will even be mean about it. Getting in the gym, getting a nice body, and being disciplined for months if not years about that is tough. Talking to multiple women a night and going on even when you have been rejected is tough.
PUA misled everyone, it is tough as nails to be a guy who consistently has different women with above average looks in his life. The amount of work you have to do is unreal as a man. Then to realize that there is no one on your side and society will fight tooth and nail to stop you from going after your dream of meeting hot girls is also disheartening.
You need to be a mentally and emotionally strong guy to really pull it off.
I have seen so many dudes cold approach for a bit and then quit because of how tough it actually was.
More importantly, you have to put your ego on the line and most men won't do that. You have to go out there, get humiliated, and keep doing it until you get results (obviously fixing things each time). You have to make yourself vulnerable as a guy as opposed to feeling that safety of community you'd get on an internet forum or a black pill space.
Meanwhile, theorizing and mentally masturbating are fun and addicting.
They are fun, they are addicting, and they lead to short-term happiness. It is fun to talk $hit about women. That is why the black pill has become so popular and its spread is practically inevitable.
