Why is having a gf so looked down on this site

[The Duke]

I think I'm going to swype on Tinder for a while, catch you guys on the flipside.

 

[marmel75]

He sounds like a desperate faggot.

If you were in your early 20's when this happened you would of rejected this loser. And the fact that you married a man with no dignity says a lot about you too.

It means she likes controlling the relationship...he likely has to beg for sex, and she probably runs the household and he says "Yes dear" 20 times a day while looking at the ground. And the more this happens the less respect you have for him as a man until one day you have none left at all, if that point hasn't already been reached.

I know a few guys in relationships like this and I laugh everytime I hear about them crying because they never get laid anymore...I'm like "Why are you still with her then??" And they respond "Because I love her..." LMAO

 

[devilkingx2]

Bastard, basket case kids raised by single moms is natural? I don't buy it. Ancient texts since the dawn of civilization describe the nuclear family, the norm in one respect or the other for 99% of mankind historically no matter the religion.

when he says biologically it's the same as saying "in the wild"

you know how the wild is generally completely different from captivity/civilization, much harsher and more unpleasant all around? yeah, that's basically it. being raised by a single mother isn't a threat to your odds of living, it's a threat to your quality of life, which is not what evolution/nature/biology is concerned with

so in the wild it'd make sense for one guy to go around banging every fertile woman he can get his **** in, however that doesn't really make sense if you don't live in a loosely governed tribe in the woods/jungles.

evolution is slow, we have not evolved in tens of thousands of years, but civilization has only existed for like 10k years

 

[Tenacity]

He sounds like a desperate faggot.

If you were in your early 20's when this happened you would of rejected this loser. And the fact that you married a man with no dignity says a lot about you too.

It means she likes controlling the relationship...he likely has to beg for sex, and she probably runs the household and he says "Yes dear" 20 times a day while looking at the ground. And the more this happens the less respect you have for him as a man until one day you have none left at all, if that point hasn't already been reached.

I know a few guys in relationships like this and I laugh everytime I hear about them crying because they never get laid anymore...I'm like "Why are you still with her then??" And they respond "Because I love her..." LMAO

I'm just not the type to shyt on these types of guys anymore though. I am realizing that when I did that in the Past I was wrong.

The fact is, everybody isn't going to be, isn't cut out to be, and/or doesn't WANT to be our version of "alpha" or "Don Juan". The reality is that some guys are actually HAPPY in the role they are in, even if their happiness is actually a form of slavery or oppression, with the woman controlling his damn near every move.

Question: If they are HAPPY, who are you guys to tell them they are fag.gots and need to become something else just so it aligns with your personal views of the world?

I said that the Manosphere should be like the Fitness Community, it should be a mass of information that guys can come to use to tailor their individual lifestyles/goals.

In the Fitness Community, some want to be lean/toned, some want to be bulky/big, some want to be on steroids, some want to bodybuild, some want to go to WWE, some want to just lose a couple pounds, some want to just stay healthy, some want to just increase their heart rate.......WHO AM I to tell someone what their PERSONAL fitness goals should be just because it doesn't align with what MY PERSONAL fitness goals are?

Poon King's goal is to spin plates until he gets bored....fine. And Poon King is still pound for pound, the best damn poster on Sosuave today. But just because a guy's goal is different, does not mean he's a fag.got lmao!

 

[oOh Nasty]

Question: If they are HAPPY, who are you guys to tell them they are fag.gots and need to become something else just so it aligns with your personal views of the world?

I think that a main theme of manosphere is that a man isn't really happy being a doormat, rather he's coming to terms with his sad state of affairs through rationalizations. I'm speaking generally about betas who give off some sense of contentedness whilst having a wife who wears the pants in a relationship.

 

[Poon King]

I'm just not the type to shyt on these types of guys anymore though. I am realizing that when I did that in the Past I was wrong.

The fact is, everybody isn't going to be, isn't cut out to be, and/or doesn't WANT to be our version of "alpha" or "Don Juan". The reality is that some guys are actually HAPPY in the role they are in, even if their happiness is actually a form of slavery or oppression, with the woman controlling his damn near every move.

Question: If they are HAPPY, who are you guys to tell them they are fag.gots and need to become something else just so it aligns with your personal views of the world?

I said that the Manosphere should be like the Fitness Community, it should be a mass of information that guys can come to use to tailor their individual lifestyles/goals.

In the Fitness Community, some want to be lean/toned, some want to be bulky/big, some want to be on steroids, some want to bodybuild, some want to go to WWE, some want to just lose a couple pounds, some want to just stay healthy, some want to just increase their heart rate.......WHO AM I to tell someone what their PERSONAL fitness goals should be just because it doesn't align with what MY PERSONAL fitness goals are?

Poon King's goal is to spin plates until he gets bored....fine. And Poon King is still pound for pound, the best damn poster on Sosuave today. But just because a guy's goal is different, does not mean he's a fag.got lmao!

If a man's "goal" is to be someone elses b!tch.. that is LITERALLY the definition of a faggot.

I've said before that men can do whatever they want. Society needs betas. But just like men are "free" to be submissive slaves to women.. I am also "free" to call those men faggots.

 

[devilkingx2]

I said that the Manosphere should be like the Fitness Community, it should be a mass of information that guys can come to use to tailor their individual lifestyles/goals.

i think that actually is what it's like, which is why most of us have varied methods of getting to the goal, getting laid. it just so happens that most of us are focused on getting laid as much as possible by as many women as possible so that may come off as people being against monogomy.

also the reason they said that guy sounds like a beta is that you're not supposed to chase your woman until she gives in, that's fairy tail rom-com BS that is a horrible idea IRL

 

[Trainwreck]

I have a gf, but I'm not her bish lol

 

[guru1000]

If a man's "goal" is to be someone elses b!tch.. that is LITERALLY the definition of a faggot.

... I am also "free" to call those men faggots.

LOL

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

If a man's "goal" is to be someone elses b!tch.. that is LITERALLY the definition of a faggot.

I've said before that men can do whatever they want. Society needs betas. But just like men are "free" to be submissive slaves to women.. I am also "free" to call those men faggots.

Hmmm... an Alpha Aristocracy.

 

[skinnyguy]

If you have a gf, you're gay

 

[zekko]

What is a man's sexual strategy? To spread his seed by fvcking as women beautiful women as possible. That is incontrovertibly our biological imperative. That's what we are built to do.

Well, how about you go impregnate as many women as you can and see how that works out for you? After all, that is "incontrovertibly our biological imperative".

 

[zekko]

@BeTheChangeThe hate is real on here. It seems I've been inactive for too long

It's not you, dude. People here want to stick you into a stereotypical little box of what they think a man is, and if you don't fit into it, then they will call you beta, AFC, a woman, a white knight, faggot, etc.

I look at what you're doing, and I'd say you are living a full life, especially for your age. Can you imagine going through your entire life and never having a girlfriend? That would be missing out on life experience. And yet that's what guys here want you to do. I would think most men spin plates at some points in their life and are in relationships at other times. To miss out on either would be not living your life to the fullest, IMO.

Personally, I like LTRs in the same way that I prefer to have a few good friends instead of a large number of casual acquaintences.

 

[zekko]

How hypocritical. Your entire first post in this thread was one massive framing

I am for freedom. I think men should do whatever they think best for them at any given time. I am not insisting that all men should jump into LTRs. I have no problem if you, or anyone else, want to spin plates for the rest of your life. And I will not call you names for doing so.

You are completely ignoring birth control. And this conversation is becoming daft.

You miss the point: If our biological imperative is to spread our seed among many women, then wrapping our penis in a condom to prevent the transmission of that seed defeats the purpose. So unless you are banging all these women with the intent to impregnate them, then there is nothing "natural" about it. Therefore, applying what is supposedly natural or unnatural to our modern lives really doesn't hold water.

 

[BeTheChange]

@BeTheChange Not everyone takes years to figure it out. I am a natural at heart but had life experiences that made me lose my confidence at age 15. Once I signed up here and lost my virginity the flood gates opened. Who are you to judge me? You don't think three years is enough time to have sex with 30 different women? You must be doing something wrong dude.

@PairPlusRoyalFlush So you're saying an emotional connection cannot be made in a week? Some girls you have real natural jazz with. But after a while seeing the same girl gets old and you want more variety. I'm not looking to get into an LTR no matter how great a girl is. Exclusivity, yes. If I do actually like her as a person as well, that goes a long way for me.

The hate is real on here. It seems I've been inactive for too long

"Haters gon' hate". Solid argument...Save the macho BS for somewhere else. No one buys it.

 

[guru1000]

A deeper consideration for the biological imperative is if men are biologically wired to be polygamous and impregnate as many women as possible and women are biologically wired to be monogamous vying for the child's father to stick around to help care for the child, then how do we reconcile the population differences between men and women? In other words, if each man were, for example, biologically wired to impregnate let's say four or more women, and each woman vying for the single father of her child, then we would need a population of four women for each man--and we don't.

The answer: the 80/20 rule. The top 20% percent of men will bang 80% of the women, which means most men although biologically wired for polygamy, will remain involuntarily celibate. Does anybody care to venture the reason "Nature" gives such a tortuous biological imperative knowing most men will not be able to act on it?

 

[womensview]

You merely reinforce the point.

Men sacrifice their sexual strategy for security.

Security isn't so secure... the fact that he was the one chasing you down for marriage is absurd, and an indication of low-value on his part.

Your using of past-tense to talk about him wasn't lost on me, either

He died after 27 yrs of marriage so that is the reason for past tense. Died of cancer and I was there thru the hell of the cancer. It is the worse thing to go thru.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

. Does anybody care to venture the reason "Nature" gives such a tortuous biological imperative knowing most men will not be able to act on it?

... which is why they learn to control it.

 

[womensview]

Yes

Sorry but I beg to differ. I can have an emotional connection instantly in that we might share the same interests or viewpoints. It happens and I know it from the start when I meet someone.

 

[Tenacity]

I've said before that men can do whatever they want. Society needs betas.

And that's the main point I'm making. We keep promoting that everybody be the Manosphere cartoon definition of "alpha", but most guys ARE and WILL BE "beta", you know why? Being red pill/alpha is not something many guys have an option to be.

I've said before, it's very easy to be red pill when your life already has aspects of abandonment.

When you come from a strong family background with a strong family tie, you most likely are going to be blue pill like your Father was.You aren't going to buck that system to be some pseudo "alpha male" and piss off the people who set up your Trust Fund as well as who have a stash of cash awaiting for you once they die.

In that aspect I would RATHER be blue pill.....at least those blue pill fag.gots aren't on Sosuave detailing their "anger" problems, or discussing with anonymous people over the internet how women "ain't shyt" all day. Those blue pill fag.gots don't know about a Manosphere because they never HAD TO SEEK IT OUT. They have a strong family network that cares about them.

Say whatever you want, but the truth is that most of us here do not have a strong family network that gives two shyts about us. It's why we had to reach out to anonymous people on the internet for help with our problems or "male role models" in the first place. Based on that, it's very easy for us to be RED PILL and call the world fag.gots....it's no different than joining a religious CULT.

What is a man's sexual strategy? To spread his seed by fvcking as women beautiful women as possible. That is incontrovertibly our biological imperative. That's what we are built to do.

You are completely ignoring birth control.

Dude how in the hell are you going to make a biological argument on one end, but use a non-biological tool to help support the biological argument? Do you think any form of birth control is natural? It's not. So that means that we as humans have developed tools, procedures, and other strategies to operate in ways that are UN-NATURAL, but more positively RATIONAL to our current situation.

That's why I hate when you guys use biological arguments like the fvck human beings are wild animals without the capability of logic, ration, and higher thought, all three of which allows us to operate in ways to control or flat out DENY our biological imperatives.