Why don't girls approach??

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Ok heres exactly why women DON't APPROACH.

#1 Because we approach them enough that they don't need to.
#2 Because women don't have as much testosterone which makes you care less about things like rejection. So They are not as confident as we are even though they get asked out like crazy. Strange eh.
 

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I'ts NOT that simple. I WISH humans were just like ANIMALS. But the fact of the matter is we are not. For animals...the male just needs to be aggressive and Female will get turned on. But for humans it is MUCH more complicated than that. She has to percieve you as VALUABLE...for your AGGRESSION to be appreciated. Woman these days could care less about how "strong" you are or your survival capabilities. Hate to break it to you guys.
 

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mrRuckus said:
So what we need is a new social construct then to overcome the biology.

I mean, we're basically set up naturally as men to go catch a woman and have sex with her and it's not up to her whether or not she has sex with us because we catch her and just take it. But we set up a social construct to overrule what is natural and labelled this as bad (rape).

So now we need a social construct that says "hey wimins, approach guys because if you don't, the good ones are getting laid by other loose women loosening their morals in the name of feminism, so stop the crying that there are no good guys when you are sitting on your butt letting your ass grow bigger because you can't stop loving the delicious taste of butter and approach guys instead of being so passively boring and expecting men to yet again shoulder anything that you consider to be unpleasant." (having to have a job, killing bugs, catching mice, almost all dangerous jobs, approaching, paying for dates, going to war)





As a side note, i'm wondering if rape is really that bad. Is it only mentally damaging because society says it is and that notion just gets reinforced over and over causing women to be ashamed and feel violated because they're told to be? Did cave ladies become emotional wrecks after the cave dude just took what he wanted? I'm not really thinking of "back alley, beat her because i'm a psycho with control issues and put my peener in her for good measure" type actions, but the more mundane non-violent types. Or is it too taboo and an emotionally charged type of question that gets your burned at the stake and ridiculed for daring to think about unpleasant things?
mrRuckus said:
It's the truth. They call approaching a man's job because it's the most convenient way to get out of having to do something uncomfortable. Anything uncomfortable that women COULD do themselves is delegated to being a man's job and you get looked at queer and less of a man if you dare to mention otherwise.

My ex, for example, said this in regards to initiating sex.
The same for "planning dates." Anything she didn't like to do or was scared to do became a man's job. Anything that men usually exclusively get to do she revelled in doing though if it was a fun thing and she'd scoff at more "womanly" type things saying they were sexist and she wouldn't do them if it was uncomfortable or involved work. Hypocrisy. Just an example of one female.
The root of your problem is that you've allowed yourself to become bitter towards women. You feel like it's unfair that women have it so "easy" while you have to do all the "work". Your outlook, basically, is that you buy into the feminist movement yourself, just in the opposite way. You believe that girls need to become guys! And that's just as bad as a woman trying to p*ssify a man!

Seriously man, and please heed my advice. It's time you take a look INSIDE instead of pointing your finger saying you aren't where you want to be because of this person or that person.

Forget about women for a while and concentrate on yourself. Focus on what makes you happy, and let go of the past. You sound like someone has really damaged you, and you know what? It happens. I know that sounds trite and overused, but it's the truth. You will never grow as a person until you learn to let go and MAKE yourself a better person.

It's a sad thing, watching a man who has become an empty shell. A persona of who he used to be or who could possibly be. Until you are ready to let go of that. Until you realize that you are better than that. Until you realize that life doesn't revolve around who did what to whom and why the world isn't fair, you'll remain that same, angry person and it'll tear out your insides and bring you to your knees.

You're much more than that. I don't know you, but I know PEOPLE. And people are capable of anything. Is that just B.S.? No. It's not. It's the truth, and there's no running from the truth. You can hide from it, but it'll find you. Lurking around every corner, down every road you don't take, everywhere.

Get it out of you and be more than you are right now, dammit.
 

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rakishness said:
I'ts NOT that simple. I WISH humans were just like ANIMALS. But the fact of the matter is we are not. For animals...the male just needs to be aggressive and Female will get turned on. But for humans it is MUCH more complicated than that. She has to percieve you as VALUABLE...for your AGGRESSION to be appreciated. Woman these days could care less about how "strong" you are or your survival capabilities. Hate to break it to you guys.
You're right about one thing. In a world where women have become accepted into the workforce, and single moms fend for themselves, she really doesn't care CONSCIOUSLY about that stuff anymore.

But she IS hardwired like an animal, which means that she has things that attract her, and she has absolutely no control over that. It's what these actions REPRESENT, rather than the actual survival value, that create attraction.

She is attracted to the man who is most capable of taking care of her, even if she doesn't know it, because women are attracted to the QUALITIES that represent survival value: NAMELY, confidence.

It really IS that simple. This is like a fundamental truth. If you don't get this or understand this, then you really aren't ready to be a "Don Juan".
 

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Vypros said:
You're right about one thing. In a world where women have become accepted into the workforce, and single moms fend for themselves, she really doesn't care CONSCIOUSLY about that stuff anymore.

But she IS hardwired like an animal, which means that she has things that attract her, and she has absolutely no control over that. It's what these actions REPRESENT, rather than the actual survival value, that create attraction.

She is attracted to the man who is most capable of taking care of her, even if she doesn't know it, because women are attracted to the QUALITIES that represent survival value: NAMELY, confidence.

It really IS that simple. This is like a fundamental truth. If you don't get this or understand this, then you really aren't ready to be a "Don Juan".
I don't believe in all this confidence stuff that has been spunn around here. There are soooooooooo many factors that play into weather you get laid or not it is not even worth talking about. I have tried in the past to debunk this whole confidence thing. But trying to do that I have found is dangerous. It is like when copernicus and galileo tried to tell the everybody the whole world that the earth revolves around the sun. NO ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU!!!!
 

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rakishness said:
I don't believe in all this confidence stuff that has been spunn around here. There are soooooooooo many factors that play into weather you get laid or not it is not even worth talking about. I have tried in the past to debunk this whole confidence thing. But trying to do that I have found is dangerous. It is like when copernicus and galileo tried to tell the everybody the whole world that the sun revolves around the earth. NO ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU!!!!
There's an old saying that goes something like this:

You can fool some of the people, all of the time. You can fool all of the people, some of the time. But you can never fool all of the people all of the time.

Why did I say that? To make one point to you:

If you try to "debunk" a point, and everytime you do it you meet with mass rejection of your arguement, there is a good chance that you are wrong, even if you can get a person here or there to agree with you.
 

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We can agree to disagree Vypros. Honestly...I learned it is not constructive to debunk thoeries you don't believe in. It's best that we all just share our knowledge and take action.

Back to the topic...Women don't approach because they lack confidence. For everyone here that believes that confidence does attract. I have a pleasant secret to share with you. When you cold approach a women you are showing confidence. You know why? Because it is so rare that anyone would break a social convention. You are showing that you have GUTS by doing this. Just go out on this street, malls or anywheare besides a bar or club. You'll see hot women. But you wont see many cold approaches at all. It is very difficult to strike up a conversation with a beautiful women you don't know during the day time and express interest. Most of us are VERY TIMID. We rarely attempt such actions. Those that do have courage, guts and confidence.
 

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what I find funny, is when they shoot down guys who DO approach (and make a sport out of it), then in their next breath, are lamenting that no guys have the balls to approach them.


Another point, to everyone saying that guys who are bitter or angry are no better than the feminists...

we can no longer be true to our nature. we are no longer living in caves. women are no longer virgin damsels living in towers, waiting for knights to persue and fight for their hand.
nature has become corrupted beyond belief. Women want so much to be 'like men', so if you keep persuing, you're just helping feminism right along.

you're giving girls the privilege (all the benefits that feminism brings along. equal jobs, social standing, etc with men, as well as all the benefits she gets from being 'the persued') and none of the responsibilities (actually having to WORK for what you want, having to get courage to persue, facing the risk of rejection)

The power between men and women is so unbalanced, its not even funny. women ARE NOT ACTING like women, so why should we persue and treat them like they are? Let them work up the courage, persue US, and risk rejection. Letting them chase us is the only way to start re-balancing the power. Once they see that being a man, responsibility as well as privilege, is not as easy as they think it is, then they can finally start to appreciate the male gender, and will be happy being female.
 

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Once Douchebag ex pianoforte posts, the entire thread goes to sh1t. Will you fvcking stop arguing theory? It sounds like most of you never go out, never get approached and therefore have no idea what women are like who DO approach. This is all speculative bullsh1t.
 

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If you're too tired and lazy to initiate, is that the girl's fault, or yours?

Fuglydude said:
I'm sure you've all experienced this:

You're out relaxing, chilling with your friends at a club/bar, and you have girl(s) giving you definite eye contact and looking your way regularly, and exhibiting other IOIs...but you're too tired/lazy at this time to initiate anything.
 

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Ahhh... this is the stuff that just get's me, "why do guys have to do all the work" or "why do I have to work to get money" or "why should I have to go the speed limit." There's a few characteristics I see with people who ask these questions. They are either one or a combination of these:

1. They're lazy, why should I have to try, I mean shouldn't I just get it? They're definatly a "go getter" they just take what they're given even when they want something else, then they'll complain.
2. They don't take pride in being a man. Why does a man have to approach women, that is like asking Why does a man have to wear mens clothes. It's kind of depressing to see people confused in this way. Personally I think it lies somewhere in feminising men, you know, men and women are eqaul so why don't they do half of the work in this situation. This is why we have guys running around in girls jeans, be a man feel good about it.
3. They are insecure about something, most likely rejection. This puts them in a situation that is self defeating and gives a feeling of security. They want to be in the position to reject or better stated "select" who they associate with.



For people in category 1, you really need to change your perspective and actually want to go out and work for something; then take pride in what you've earned.

People in category 2 have some prejudice or anger at women. My thought is that they've been rejected and hurt from it. Believe me they're are ALOT of beautiful women in the world, stop thinking of an approach as chatting a women up to **** her five minutes later, approach because you want to interact with people. Men and women are different, thats a fact, we are different, we are not "equal" because we are not the same. If I say, "This is bull****, why do I have to approach women want to be equal, they should just grow some balls and approach." Quick science lesson men have balls women don't, but anyone who isn't a virgin knows that, and because we have the balls in our species MEN do the risky **** and the scary stuff, its just what guys do.
Anyone ever heard something like this, "Hey stop being such a ***** and (insert ballsy act ex. jump if your bungie jumping and you're trying to bail)." He's saying you're acting like a girl hense the "*****" statement. So what I'm saying is, stop acting like a *****, grow some balls, and just approach without *****ing. I'm telling you the vast majority of women LOVE guys who act like men.

People in category 3 should follow the advice in category two, you'll find that after you approach because you like to talk to people (get that into your head, you need to actually enjoy talking to people) at first you'll probably fail to get with the girl, but with time you'll just naturally learn how to talk/touch/generally act around girls to get them interested.
People in 3 have that self defeating thought that they want to select, by thinking that you've already lost. You do select when you approach, by interacting with the person choose if you want their number or if you just want to leave it where it ended. If you strictly rely on girls approaching you, you're waiting to be selected.

It's not that bad of a deal approaching you'll feel like a man, get over social anxiety, get confidence, you'll meet alot of people, and you're in control because you choose to talk to the person and choose to see them again. Stop the pedestal ****, see them as a person at first and you'll see the benifits later.

By the way women do approach guys... quite a bit actually.

-Get to it.
 

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mrRuckus said:
As a side note, i'm wondering if rape is really that bad. Is it only mentally damaging because society says it is and that notion just gets reinforced over and over causing women to be ashamed and feel violated because they're told to be? Did cave ladies become emotional wrecks after the cave dude just took what he wanted? I'm not really thinking of "back alley, beat her because i'm a psycho with control issues and put my peener in her for good measure" type actions, but the more mundane non-violent types. Or is it too taboo and an emotionally charged type of question that gets your burned at the stake and ridiculed for daring to think about unpleasant things?
Let me ask you one thing Mr. Ruckus, how thrilled would you be if some guy came over and raped you? Think about it... I really want you to think about this, really think about it, picture this Mr. Ruckus.
A guy, ****ing you, right in the ass, when you really didn't want to be ****ed right in the ass. Really though, you're right, rape isn't that bad, I mean come on, its just rape.
 

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I think b1tches are similar to animals, they are designed to want to **** a guy who has confidence and guts and looks good, but society causes her to hold back that urge unless other criteria are met.
 

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THE_ADDMAN said:
The power between men and women is so unbalanced, its not even funny. women ARE NOT ACTING like women, so why should we persue and treat them like they are? Let them work up the courage, persue US, and risk rejection. Letting them chase us is the only way to start re-balancing the power. Once they see that being a man, responsibility as well as privilege, is not as easy as they think it is, then they can finally start to appreciate the male gender, and will be happy being female.
The attitudes that some of you carry here blows me away. You are obviously here to learn more about women, but it seems like some of you have this giant chip on your shoulder that you carry around. Like a bag of rocks that you just take with you everywhere you go.

Here, there, everywhere.

It's so unfair!

It's so hard being a man!

Women have no clue what it's like!


SHUT UP AND BE A MAN!

But but...

WHO CARES?

It's so unfair I...

WHO CARES?

Hey, stop interrupting...

SHUT UP!


Seriously, you wonder why you are having trouble getting the women? Try unloading that bag of rocks you are carrying around. Nobody ever got anywhere by pointing their finger and saying that they're not where they need to be because of him or her.

Cowards do that.
 

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You all have heard the term "ballsy". Like when someone says that was a ballsy move. Meaning risky....Thats why we have balls. Men are supposed to engage in risky, bold and stupid action. Thats why we are MEN.
 

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lookyoung said:
Woman will approach a guy if they think he is super goodlooking, has status, rich, famous etc.................................


Woman will not approach you if they think you are ok or cute. But if a womans dream guy is colin farrel and you look like him she will approach you.
NO NO NO!!!

The super attractive, super confident guys rarely get approached because they intimidate the women, yes even the attractive ones. The girls assume their chances of being rejected are much higher.
 

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Yea, girls are MUCH more afraid of rejection that we are. Much more. If you thought we had it bad, they have it alot more...which is why they approach as much...unless they have liquor in them.
 
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