Why do we work so hard for so litte?

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And I'm talking specifically about women. Look at this site. Look at all the reading material about how to "game" women and all the PUA stuff. Look at all the strategies, long threads, sleepless nights, cold approaches, etc. Look at all the money spent on cars, clothes, food, etc. to impress women. Look at all the hard work we put into impressing women. Look at all the fist fights, murders and confrontations with other men over b!tches.

Now with that said.. what do we get in return? Some good sex? Some arm candy? Some fleeting respect?

Women want the earth, moon and stars from men just so they can spread their legs and show some respect. Think long and hard about that last sentence. Then compare the efforts.

How much effort does it take a woman to lye on her back and open her legs? How much effort does it take a woman to be nice and submissive? Compare that to the effort it takes a man to be "alpha" or "successful".

Why do we as men work so hard for so little?
 

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Because most AFCs have no life and never got laid when they were younger
 

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You misunderstood: the main focus of this site is to become enlightened; a man. A man of himself.

Now, what is afc? Afc is simply one who desires a woman more than himself; he's ready to waste his life for a woman.

Every afc comes here trying to find ways to build and juice up their afcness even more, hence all the strategies and the fvcking god knows what these dumbs are ready to do for women.

Simply put.
 

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you are on the correct path but your mindset isn't entirely right yet

we don't do all that work purely to attain a woman , they are a merely a bonus

we do it because we want to attain a lifestyle where women are not important and we have enough enjoyment out of life without them

also you need to understand evolution

men are the lead sex , we naturally should have that desire to work harder than women

i wonder if the caveman was complaining a hundred thousand years ago that his female couldn't help hunt ......
 

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Because being with a woman can make mundane activities fun.

I would not enjoy walking on a beach with a male friend. With a girl though, it'd be a lovely experience.

Even something like going to a park, or going to the movies.
 

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I am beginning to think, the easiest path in life is to be born as an attractive girl. If you are an attractive woman, life is a breeze for everything is laid on a plate. But as a man, its a tough world out there.
 

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Because most women are ugly, so if you want any quality woman you must earn it, there is a lot demand for it inflated by porn/media.Guys watch all this pretty porn models/stars and want same level of quality.

You can get woman easily just not the woman you want to have sex with.
 

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Poon King said:
How much effort does it take a woman to lye on her back and open her legs? How much effort does it take a woman to be nice and submissive? Compare that to the effort it takes a man to be "alpha" or "successful".

Why do we as men work so hard for so little?
Many women today try to make successful careers, or at least to a point, and yes many of them do work hard to get there. Don't have serious relationships with uneducated bimbos who just want money, any man who does so is basically just buying himself a prostitute labelled as wife.
 

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And I'm talking specifically about women. Look at this site. Look at all the reading material about how to "game" women and all the PUA stuff. Look at all the strategies, long threads, sleepless nights, cold approaches, etc. Look at all the money spent on cars, clothes, food, etc. to impress women. Look at all the hard work we put into impressing women. Look at all the fist fights, murders and confrontations with other men over b!tches.

Now with that said.. what do we get in return? Some good sex? Some arm candy? Some fleeting respect?

Women want the earth, moon and stars from men just so they can spread their legs and show some respect. Think long and hard about that last sentence. Then compare the efforts.

How much effort does it take a woman to lye on her back and open her legs? How much effort does it take a woman to be nice and submissive? Compare that to the effort it takes a man to be "alpha" or "successful".

Why do we as men work so hard for so little?
Maybe because we're wired for sexual competition? Just an educated guess.
 

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mangotot said:
I am beginning to think, the easiest path in life is to be born as an attractive girl. If you are an attractive woman, life is a breeze for everything is laid on a plate. But as a man, its a tough world out there.
How would you deal with unwanted attention? Being seen as a sexual object even in professional settings? The possibility of being sexually assaulted and other such unpleasant things.

Being an attractive girl also comes with a price tag attached.

Also, consider that for some men life's a breeze too.
 

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Poon King said:
How much effort does it take a woman to lye on her back and open her legs? How much effort does it take a woman to be nice and submissive? Compare that to the effort it takes a man to be "alpha" or "successful".
It's definitely a lot harder and a lot more work to be a man than it is to be a woman. But it's also ultimately more rewarding, IMO.
 

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How much effort does it take a woman to lye on her back and open her legs? How much effort does it take a woman to be nice and submissive? Compare that to the effort it takes a man to be "alpha" or "successful".
That is a very stereotypical vision of gender roles. Women aren't half as passive as some would like them to be. Good for them. How difficult is it for a woman to dare and be more active and assertive either sexually or professionally? How difficult is it for a woman to approach a gy she finds attractive? Can a woman aspire to being succesful too?
 

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Exactly op!!!!! It took me 4 months of going out to finally luck up and meet my ex. Afterwards, you still have to put an act and deal with bs only to get a hour of pumping her occasionally. Like milk, girls have an expiration date and we djs tend to throw her away earlier than others besides cope with the sourness like most guys. With ons, you don't have to put up so much work, but is 4 months of drought for a hour of sex in one night really worth it?
 

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Shouldnt be this hard guys, if you're not enjoying it and meeting fun girls you're doing it wrong.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Blusher said:
That is a very stereotypical vision of gender roles. Women aren't half as passive as some would like them to be. Good for them. How difficult is it for a woman to dare and be more active and assertive either sexually or professionally? How difficult is it for a woman to approach a gy she finds attractive? Can a woman aspire to being succesful too?
I think many males here would like women to be a little more assertive in the mating game. But the fact is, they can, if they choose, just sit back and choose from the guys who approach them. One of the main things this forum teaches is to be more aggressive in approaching the women who interest you. But I'm sure a lot of guys aren't thrilled with the idea of having to do the dancing monkey mating dance in the hopes that the females select them.
 

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But I'm sure a lot of guys aren't thrilled with the idea of having to do the dancing monkey mating dance in the hopes that the females select them.
Because they feel they shouldnt have to, and they are right. You should never be putting on a dance or an act to impress a woman. That is the behavior of a chump posing as a DJ just long enough to get the girl and then revert back to his old self, scared of losing her and being thrown back into that unnatural dance.

The DJ is not dancing, he isnt afraid of what she thinks or her judgements or rejection. HE is selecting HER, he is being direct and honest and going for what he wants, and if it doesnt work out with that one theres a million more. He knows nothing lasts, so he just enjoys the ride.
 

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Because they feel they shouldnt have to, and they are right. You should never be putting on a dance or an act to impress a woman. That is the behavior of a chump posing as a DJ just long enough to get the girl and then revert back to his old self, scared of losing her and being thrown back into that unnatural dance.
Yeah, I know you shouldn't be a dancing monkey, I was putting that somewhat sarcastically. Although if you watch Tyler's videos, he does come across a bit as a dancing monkey, even though he will say you shouldn't.

The point is, the man must initiate, usually. Whenever I see those nature shows on birds, it always reminds me of humans. The female sits back while the males take turns putting on their dances in the hopes that they get chosen. It's the same thing that DJs do, no matter how smooth and indifferent they are. They approach the girl and put in their bid, and if the girl likes the show, she'll accept. Same with the birds.
 

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You gotta be a leader! A man of strength and achievement, a man of pride and self-respect, a man of confidence and tenaciousness. You will become a leader and you will do as you please. You will do whatever you want, achieve whatever you want, and you will not be shamed for craving what you want or having it. You will be in control of your life and actions. You will be the king of YOUR world. Because you are confident in whatever you are doing. And the mindset associated with that trait is what truly does give you great insight into yourself and how to achieve your passions.

You will reach this stage when you have surpassed the paramount of self-improvement in DJism. That is the level we must all strive to achieve for and inevitably soon become. And that is when you will truly become a Don Juan. You will be able to bend the game and bend the 'rules' of it to your own will. Hence why the same generic advice that has been constantly spewed out here nowadays repulses me. They don't allow you to learn from your mistakes. And everyone uses them as strict 'rules'. They should be treated more of like guidelines instead. And aside from that, you will need to fail in order to build inner game and in order to reach that level. The more you fail, the closer you get to becoming WHO YOU WANT TO BE. The more inner game you have, the closer you will be to getting to that heightened level understanding and wisdom.

THAT is why it is worth it to go through all of this. The more you deal with people the more you grow an aspect of yourself. The more you improve yourself, the more you become your TRUE self. The more you become of your TRUE self, the more you grow as an individual. BECOME A LEADER! This is Pook's definition of a man! Be a Man!
 
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Blusher said:
How would you deal with unwanted attention? Being seen as a sexual object even in professional settings? The possibility of being sexually assaulted and other such unpleasant things.

Being an attractive girl also comes with a price tag attached.

Also, consider that for some men life's a breeze too.
Are you a girl pretending to be a boy?
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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