Why Do We Do This? Why Do We Keep Dating Women?

[Von]

I appreciate the comments guys.......but sometimes I wonder if I'm the only HUMAN BEING on this forum? It's human to be pissed off due to retarded shyt you have to deal with on a consistent basis and no, moving isn't going to change it, this is a problem that's nation wide.

- Why is the question: "Tenacity, why are you so mad"?

- Why isn't the question: "Guys, why aren't we JUST AS MAD as Tenacity?"

Is it really that you guys have mastered the art of "not giving a fvck" or are you just defeated? Have you just given up "fighting" against the shyt and are just going to go along to get along?

I don't even watch CNN (fake news), but I click it on there every now and then, hoping another Elliot Rogers blasted these bytches straight into hell. I just hope the next Elliot Rogers doesn't stop at white bytches, pleaseee pleaseee come blast these weave-wearing, 5 kids from 5 different thugs having, lip smacking, attitude having, stank pvssy black bytches as well! Pleaseeeeee do it!

You are à troll

Stop wasting our time and gloryfying in negativeness online.

Best of luck.

Goodbye, you officially on the ignore list.

I feel sad for you

 

[Serenity]

Guys I'm just tired. I've ranted a lot on this forum as it served as my personal journal. But I'm once again at that breaking point.....

So dramatic... Come on, pull yourself together. You're not at a breaking point, just do the only logical thing. You're sick and tired of dating women, so then just DON'T do it. It's really simple, do not do it. It's not like anyone is holding a gun to your head, you can just choose to do or not do whatever the fuck you want.

- Why isn't the question: "Guys, why aren't we JUST AS MAD as Tenacity?"

Because it's a waste of fucking time. Every second you're angry is a second you spend not being happy. There's ALWAYS something to be pissed about in the world, ALWAYS. The way to happiness is not to change the world, it's to change how you view it.

 

[Tenacity]

You are à troll

Stop wasting our time and gloryfying in negativeness online.

Best of luck.

Goodbye, you officially on the ignore list.

I feel sad for you

Dude this is the 7th fvcking time you said I was on your pvssy a.ss IGNORE list....how do I keep getting off of it? Keep me on it, okay??

 

[Tenacity]

Because it's a waste of fucking time. Every second you're angry is a second you spend not being happy. There's ALWAYS something to be pissed about in the world, ALWAYS. The way to happiness is not to change the world, it's to change how you view it.

I hear you man...I just don't understand how you guys (nor men in general) can continue to just be this comfortable, this relaxed, etc., while women continue to get away with murder. I just don't understand it. I know you want to be happy and not dwell on "negative" shyt, I get that......but people are being FVCKED OVER out here man. They are being FVCKED over.

And nobody gives a damn. It's just the motto of "welp, life ain't fair, deal with it." Then when a guy grabs a fvcking gun and lets off 99 rounds, then all of a sudden everybody gets so fvcking concerned.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Didn't you say you've had enough sex that it's gotten old?

So what do you even need women for? Or is it just the fact that you wake up thinking about them?

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Tenacity you are very conscious.

Maybe I am so far detached that perfecting game has made me view humans...women or men as pure pawns...so what women do doesn't affect me emotionally. You can't seem to view people like that...which tbh I wish I could sometimes be like that...and so you want to actually fix women's attitudes and their morals when if you REALLY become indifferent (every dj knows what the level of true indifference feels like)...you could care less about women and all the bs they be on. You start to chuckle.

Reach that point Tenacity...because this Martin Luther King crusade to change an Innate wiring of a woman will NEVER happen. Men got called their bluff and the secrets out that majority of us are soft and will roll over for a slice of pu$$y.

Hope this helps you.

 

[Serenity]

I hear you man...I just don't understand how you guys (nor men in general) can continue to just be this comfortable, this relaxed, etc., why women continue to get away with murder. I just don't understand it. I know you want to be happy and not dwell on "negative" shyt, I get that......but people are being FVCKED OVER out here man. They are being FVCKED over.

And nobody gives a damn. It's just the motto of "welp, life ain't fair, deal with it." Then when a guy grabs a fvcking gun and lets off 99 rounds, then all of a sudden everybody gets so fvcking concerned.

Stop trying to carry the world on your shoulders, it will turn you into the type of people making the world a worse and not a better place. Yes people are being fucked over out there, being pissed about it isn't exactly helping. There's not a whole lot you can do about it other than to not do the same.

Being relaxed is the antidote to all this evil, because people do dumb shit when they're stressed out. It won't do any good if you join them and their negativity. You're also a hypocrite, in one moment you fantasize about physically abusing women and in the next you try to appear as if you have a heart of gold caring about everyone. Your head is like scrambled eggs, it makes no sense. Come talk to me when your mind is made up.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Man is that being that stands astride
Two lands like Atlas of old
The one of chaos, the other cosmos,
One to the other will never fold.

 

[bigneil]

... because we don't want to date men?

How many times do we need to f*ck a girl before we can say "I f*cked her?"

 

[Tenacity]

Stop trying to carry the world on your shoulders, it will turn you into the type of people making the world a worse and not a better place. Yes people are being fucked over out there, being pissed about it isn't exactly helping. There's not a whole lot you can do about it other than to not do the same.

Being relaxed is the antidote to all this evil, because people do dumb shit when they're stressed out. It won't do any good if you join them and their negativity. You're also a hypocrite, in one moment you fantasize about physically abusing women and in the next you try to appear as if you have a heart of gold caring about everyone. Your head is like scrambled eggs, it makes no sense. Come talk to me when your mind is made up.

I would just like to know from you personally.......why is it that you don't care? Help me understand.

I know I can't solve all of the world's problems, but it's like a house being on FIRE next door and I'm sitting here saying, "welp, that's life, let me just focus on being happy/positive"...until eventually that fire spreads to my front porch and now I'm scrambling trying to figure out what just happened.

It's like you and other guys don't see what I'm ranting about as a problem? It's almost like you see my rant as just me whining/bytching about nothing, or whining/bytching about something very minor? I don't get it man.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The irony is, some women will be turned on by you abusing them.

Yes! If Tenacity would only be able to grasp that concept, get a fetlife account, and learn how to be kinky, he could be a lot happier.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I would just like to know from you personally.......why is it that you don't care? Help me understand.

I know I can't solve all of the world's problems, but it's like a house being on FIRE next door and I'm sitting here saying, "welp, that's life, let me just focus on being happy/positive"...until eventually that fire spreads to my front porch and now I'm scrambling trying to figure out what just happened.

It's like you and other guys don't see what I'm ranting about as a problem? It's almost like you see my rant as just me whining/bytching about nothing, or whining/bytching about something very minor? I don't get it man.

But I just went out tonight to a restaurant and there were a bunch of seemingly happy couples. How do you explain that? They were hanging on each other, playing pool.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

But I just went out tonight to a restaurant and there were a bunch of seemingly happy couples. How do you explain that? They were hanging on each other, playing pool.

Probably decent people. When you think all is effed up in the world that's what you'll see.

 

[Serenity]

I would just like to know from you personally.......why is it that you don't care? Help me understand.

I know I can't solve all of the world's problems, but it's like a house being on FIRE next door and I'm sitting here saying, "welp, that's life, let me just focus on being happy/positive"...until eventually that fire spreads to my front porch and now I'm scrambling trying to figure out what just happened.

It's like you and other guys don't see what I'm ranting about as a problem? It's almost like you see my rant as just me whining/bytching about nothing, or whining/bytching about something very minor? I don't get it man.

I'll do my best, because I know how painful that frustration is. I got burnt out by it, to the "breaking point" as you say. I just had to learn what I do and do not have power over. It's not like I never feel anger, I just learned to handle it effectively to minimize my own suffering. I save my energy for the battles where I can actually make a difference, where my actions will affect the outcome. You are "leaking" your energy to things you can't really act on, which is pretty dumb as it leaves you drained of energy to handle things you do have power over.

Your analogy is not accurate to what I'm talking about. If the house next door is on fire you CAN do something about that to prevent it spreading to you. What you're actually wasting energy on is a house on fire on the other side of the city, there's not a lot you can contribute with regarding that. It's for other people to handle.

Another thing is that you'll see what you focus on, but miss a lot of other things. What you gotta get a habit of doing is trying to see what you haven't noticed yet. Another wise thing to do is to remove yourself from the sources of your frustrations, at least long enough to clear your mind and calm down. Then you can go back and take another look at it, maybe you'll get a refreshed perspective of it that's more functional to live with.

I always pay close attention to my stress level and if I start feeling very uncomfortable I remove myself from the stressors. One such stressor is reading the news, there's a lot of bad shit on the news, none of which I can do much about. So I quit checking for a few days until I've regained mental stability and can handle the stupidity I'm seeing again.

Any improvement must start with myself, if not I'm just a part of what I hate. No point trying to make anyone else happy if I can't even make myself happy. I can't spread it if I do not possess it. People are also a lot more agreeable and easier to affect if I'm happy and remain calm. People tend to be defensive when met with aggression and you're not getting anywhere with that.

So how do I keep my cool? It's superior to anger. Why don't I care? I do care, but I limit it to things worth caring about that won't be a waste of energy. The rest is not within my power to change, I know and respect my limitations.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

The single most significant shortcoming of our culture consists in the failure to teach our young men self-control aka virtue. This is no puritanism, but a life lived in the fullest reality, where a man must stand astride both the real and ideal worlds, in order to realize his true potential.

Though we can attain this latter on life, through effort of our own, it is so much easier if acquire it through good habits in childhood. The later you leave it, the more you will feel like poor Baron Von Munchasen attempting to lift himself from the bog by his pigtail [this would be all but impossible if there were no teleological pull from above].

The essence of this virtue has to consist in the restraint of our libido. Most of the frustrations we find in life rise from this libido becoming over-inflated. It is out of control, and bounces around blindly of this and that object. Better to have its force restrained, and then channeled and directed, and let loose, like the Kraken of old, to the appropriate object.

 

[Tenacity]

@Grewd nice post, can we continue this discussion, if you don't mind? I want to ask you some follow up questions....

I just had to learn what I do and do not have power over.

So how do I keep my cool? It's superior to anger. Why don't I care? I do care, but I limit it to things worth caring about that won't be a waste of energy. The rest is not within my power to change, I know and respect my limitations.

As you know, I routinely refer to many "teachings" on the Manosphere as cartoon shyt. One of them being the aspect known as "keeping the frame". But with the concept of keeping the frame, this one little concept teaches Men that in some form or fashion.......we DO have some level of "control/influence" over the behavior of other women, even if said control/influence might be limited and might even be temporary. The concept teaches us that in some form or fashion, even in this feminist/gynocentric society, we can in some fashion "shape" a woman's attitude and behavior.

Let's assume that the "keeping the frame" concept is an actual true concept.

Would not this mean that your theory of us not having the "power to change" various aspects of the social/dating world today, be inaccurate? What if Grewd.....we as men collectively across the country......established a new "frame"? A new rule? A new way of operation? Where basically we started to say collectively:

- We will not tolerate disrespect, shyt tests, raising another man's multiple kids, a woman getting overly fat, a woman becoming overly bytchy, etc.

- We will not tolerate an out of control Family Court, we are firstly going to opt out of any participation within it (no marriage and no children creation) then we are going to march, protest, and use our political power like hell to change it.

- We will not tolerate any double standards with women, where on one hand they want to be Feminists and say we are all equal, then when it comes to dating, they want doors held open and meals paid for.

- We will not tolerate a woman treating a piece of shyt thug/deadbeat man like gold, while treating the BEST and brightest men in our global economy as worthless dogs JUST BECAUSE he refuses to do whatever she wants.

What if @Grewd, we as Men.......came together.......and said we aren't going to take it anymore?

You see, you say we don't have this power to change this stuff and it adds to my frustration, because I know we do and I know you guys BELIEVE that we do as well on some level. After all, you believe that "keeping the frame" can help influence/control a woman's behavior, so what if we as Men established a collective national "frame" with the above bullet points as its foundation?

Your analogy is not accurate to what I'm talking about. If the house next door is on fire you CAN do something about that to prevent it spreading to you. What you're actually wasting energy on is a house on fire on the other side of the city, there's not a lot you can contribute with regarding that. It's for other people to handle.

Okay, now let me ask you a question. If Banks in a city located 2 hours away from me, are ripping people off with bad loans, signing them up with credit cards they didn't authorize, and doing a lot of other unethical shyt......and it gets into the news (the fire on the other side of the city)......what makes me THINK this might not spread to Banks in my neighborhood? Would not people be outraged over this (even if they lived 300 miles from said city) due to Banks in their neighborhood potentially doing the same thing and wanting to seek JUSTICE to stop the perps in said City, but also to de-motivate any potential perps in their own city?

Another wise thing to do is to remove yourself from the sources of your frustrations, at least long enough to clear your mind and calm down. Then you can go back and take another look at it, maybe you'll get a refreshed perspective of it that's more functional to live with.

Sir, let me tell you something.......I didn't just start dating women. I've been dating women pretty consistently over the last 17 years (since the age of 16). Over those 17 years, I have watched, analyzed, and just taken note, of as MEN, how much flat out retarded shyt we allow these people (women) to get away with it. It's mind-boggling. It's as if we are so pvssy-controlled today, that all we care about is making sure we get a piece of ran through/STD-filled pvssy, to where a woman's personal behavior choices don't matter! As long as she is giving us some pvssy, we are good!

I might be the only guy in America that doesn't understand that concept. What they are doing is wrong @Grewd, our families have been destroyed in the black community due majorly in part to decisions by black women since the 1970s. This is a FACT. You want me to just say fvck it, have a Coke, and keep smiling? I can't do that man.....

 

[Desdinova]

sometimes I wonder if I'm the only HUMAN BEING on this forum? It's human to be pissed off due to retarded shyt you have to deal with on a consistent basis and no, moving isn't going to change it, this is a problem that's nation wide.

You are not the only human being on this forum. We all get sick of this 5hit as well, and that's when we know we need to take a break from it. My last break from women was 7 months long, and I fvcking enjoyed every minute of it.

Moving CAN change your problem...

You only like dating black women. That is what you're attracted to. I completely understand this. However, I need to mention that the majority of black women in the US are VERY different from the majority of black women up here in Canada. I've met black women in the US (namely Florida), I've heard them talk, and I wouldn't touch them with a 50 foot erection. Black women here in Canada? Bring them on! They are nice, decent, and attractive. I haven't dated one yet, but that's mainly because they don't exactly hang out in the places I like to go. I rarely see them in bars. They just kinda keep to themselves or in their own circle of friends. The ones I've met are extremely feminine, sweet, polite, and very attractive.

This is why I'm encouraging you to travel, so you can see that black women are different in other parts of the world. If a black woman is what you seek, you'll have better luck finding one outside the US. Travelling will help put things in perspective.

If you don't want to travel, then you're going to have to quit limiting yourself to a certain type of women. Start dating white and Asian women. Your avoidance of dating outside your race is only going to keep you locked in a cage full of your own 5hit.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Nothing will change until the way you view women changes. Women are what they are. You have to learn to deal.

Good job on 200 dates in 7 years. Let's up that to 200 dates per year.

 

[sazc]

wanted to say "learn to give zero fvcks" (that's my personal new mantra) but I know that's easier said than done for you on this subject so I feel as if you need to start to explore the idea of understanding how to transcend the issues in your life that you cant control.

http://stronginsideout.com/frustrated-cant-control/

Really, start to read up on the idea. I'm not saying that every point you have made about females isn't valid, just that it's something you cant control, but you are fixated on the topic and, along with not being healthy for your well being, it's coloring each of your days in a negative way...no bueno.

Maybe also consider shifting the focus of your life to planning events that will truly make YOU happy/smiling/feel thrilled. Make a bucket list and follow thru.

The point at which you stop giving so many fvcks is probably the point at which life will truly change for the better (in some way)

 

[SteR]

I honestly think you should get the hell out of Detroit or wherever it is you are. I know you're only interested in black women, but they're all over the globe, not just the US.