Why do us guys, men, have to be perfect everything in order to get girls?

Sir Psycho Sexy

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Good lord have some standards. No reason you cant be selective too.

I always say being hot gets in my pants but if the girl isnt interesting and smart then shes not going to be around for long.
 

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Because women have eggs and carry babies and men have sperm and maintain the option for post inception mobility. Its by design. No way you can help this.
 

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This is all fine and well, but I'm finding more and more that more and more women will forget your as5 even if you've just fvcked her a mere week or 2 ago. I'm amazed at how the amero-girl today can bleep you outta her mind EVEN after you've fvcked her. I didn't live in the olden days, but I would imagine that back then girls would get a Lot clingier if you made it all the way to fvcking her. I guess cause these days, women are looser...with other women even (Bi-sexual) that a fvck is just a fvck - "who cares about that guy I just fvcked?"..."sure, yeah, he was hot"..."sure, yeah, he had a lot of money"...but so does that guy who was hitting on me yesterday, and the day before, and the day the day before, and the guy just 3 minutes ago. Only the undesirables (fatties), I find, are still insecure to get all clingy after a fvck, but even they are cling-proof now. But those are the ones who still shove their faces with food to deal with being undesirable or grotesque.

I'm 0 for 4 the past 2 weeks, after a great lay. Maybe it's because it's fvcking cold again. Whatever it is, I'm still meeting new girls, and I have these new ones in mind for warmer days. I will try to fvck one of them during the first week of April when I go on vaca.

I probably could have fvcked one from early December today, but I really didn't feel like traveling all the way to her town, once again. It's just not the right timing, and timing is everything. When it's warm, women are hornier.
 

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You don't have to be perfect. But why not try to get perfect? Isn't that fun?
 

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Myrrdin said:
All of you b1tchin' are lazy fvcks. Be glad that you can change what you are.

Men:
Got a scrawny/fat body? Gym
You're boring? Get a hobby.
Can't dance? Take classes.
Boring/Tiresome/Low-paying job? Educate yourself and go for a better one.

Women:
Nature rolls the 1-10 dice. Wherever it lands she's stuck with it and there's only so much they can change.
We, on the other hand, can do a complete 180 given the time and sweat.

Now ask yourselves this. How would you have it?
1. a complete 180 may not be possible (as much as we'd like to believe it, we are not machines which we can simply rewire and change their function)

2. "given the time and sweat."
A: "YES! I am now a perfectly developed man! OOPS! I am 45, my youth is gone and the young, fresh, delicious girls that I desire hang out with the ones their age"
 

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Myrrdin said:
All of you b1tchin' are lazy fvcks. Be glad that you can change what you are.

Men:
Got a scrawny/fat body? Gym
You're boring? Get a hobby.
Can't dance? Take classes.
Boring/Tiresome/Low-paying job? Educate yourself and go for a better one.

Women:
Nature rolls the 1-10 dice. Wherever it lands she's stuck with it and there's only so much they can change.
We, on the other hand, can do a complete 180 given the time and sweat.

Now ask yourselves this. How would you have it?
Win, This is how you should think about it.
 

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ChalengeGuyFan said:
1. a complete 180 may not be possible (as much as we'd like to believe it, we are not machines which we can simply rewire and change their function)

2. "given the time and sweat."
A: "YES! I am now a perfectly developed man! OOPS! I am 45, my youth is gone and the young, fresh, delicious girls that I desire hang out with the ones their age"


If it takes you until your 45 to reach any goal (except being a millionare, which is unecessary) you should maybe look at faster methods.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
What trips a lot of guys up is the fact that, quite often, women will often act "unattainable" when you first meet them. This serve them well, as it filters out the guys that aren't self-confident enough to plow through these "soft" rejections.
One of my friends, a smoking hot Ukrainian woman told me this one day.
She said some of her guy friends said she was unattainable.

I laughed at her and told her she wasn't.
 

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It's just biology:

A woman spends her youth looking for one man to fulfill her every need.

A man spends his youth looking for every woman to fulfill his one need.
 

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You do not have to be perfect to get girls. People here seem to think so, that you need to lead an "interesting life" with alot of hobbies with expensive wardrobes and huge muscles and a diary full of snappy comebacks. This viewpoint comes from not interacting positively with women and idealizing those who do.

Here's really all you need to get a girlfriend/laid:

Be a cool guy who is good company.
Be halfway decent looking.
Know your limits.

Not too hard. Making it harder than it is frustrates the hell out of you guys.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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i agree with you man. but if you're like me and dont give a sh1t about what women want, all is good. take me for example...

im 26 and live at home alone with my dog, i dont have a job or a license or a car. all i got is my mouth and i'm pretty damn good at what comes out of it. im not showing off but i sometimes just amaze myself how good i am with women. i can go to a club right now and score hotties if i want to just by the way i play my moves on them. i am a cheeky bastard and bullsh1t like no tomorrow just to get laid. (eg, i told a girl i was in the navy and we made out within ten minutes, i sh1t you not!! < long time ago though) - i bring girls to my **** crappy 2 bedroom tiny house and fuk girls on my bed with my dog barking non fuking stop in the other room. these sort of things dont last long but i keep changing girls quite often lol. now to get a long term gf, thats another story! but if you are confident and can talk utter bullsh1t, you are funny and charming... you got game!
 

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Simple answer:

Because you should expect more from a man. I know its 2011 and in this modern world we like to pretend everything is equal and we're the same, but you can't change nature. And nature dictates that as a man you're the leader, the provider, the superior in strength etc in order to protect the herd. And when you begin to actually accept those primal characteristics and become one with them, you will do the choosing, because women want a man.
 

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yeah, it's like it is way important for a man to be masculine than it is for a woman to be feminine, by the way, I heard that 20 percent of men get 80 percent of the women, I heard that somewhere.
 

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Are you guys forgetting that most of you view MOST women as being un-datable?

Think about the lists on other posts:
can't come from broken family
no drugs
no std's
no mental disorders
must have friends
not needy, manipulative, bitccy, or uneducated

Maybe it seems like women are the more selective ones, because we're only looking at the women at the tops of the social/economic/educational/fitness categories.

We forget that there are millions of stupid, broke, nasty chicks out there who would happily suck some dude's tiny CKCO every night as long as he held down a job and didn't beat her when he drinks.
 

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Myrrdin said:
All of you b1tchin' are lazy fvcks. Be glad that you can change what you are.

Men:
Got a scrawny/fat body? Gym
You're boring? Get a hobby.
Can't dance? Take classes.
Boring/Tiresome/Low-paying job? Educate yourself and go for a better one.

Women:
Nature rolls the 1-10 dice. Wherever it lands she's stuck with it and there's only so much they can change.
We, on the other hand, can do a complete 180 given the time and sweat.

Now ask yourselves this. How would you have it?
Excellent post!

+1

Some of you guys are way to depressed on this subject.....I wake up everyday feeling lucky to be born a man, and to have found this site!
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Myrrdin said:
All of you b1tchin' are lazy fvcks. Be glad that you can change what you are.

Men:
Got a scrawny/fat body? Gym
You're boring? Get a hobby.
Can't dance? Take classes.
Boring/Tiresome/Low-paying job? Educate yourself and go for a better one.
Doesn't really help since the most important things that women use to judge a man's attractiveness, his face and height; can't be changed.

Average looking short guy, forgetaboutit. (Note: I am an average looking short guy.)
Women:
Nature rolls the 1-10 dice. Wherever it lands she's stuck with it and there's only so much they can change.
We, on the other hand, can do a complete 180 given the time and sweat.

Now ask yourselves this. How would you have it?
Most young women are at least cute so that's not a hindrance. The only real negative a woman has is her weight and a girl can always change that if she wanted to. Hell, she can let her new life begin if she called 1-800 get thin.
CoolBlue said:
A) Unless the gender ratio of the world is greatly skewed, there is no way for you to say that things are unfair. One guy for one girl still holds.
That would be great if men were only allowed one girl. But the guys who know how to get girls, get a lot of girls. Far more than their "fair share."

Remember you are competing with other guys for these girls and you're not actually at war against girls.

C) Continued from B: You don't actually have to be perfect at everything, just better than others at everything to be attractive. Girls have to be hotter than other girls to be attractive which is insanely hard to do.
Having to compete against other guys absolutely sucks. Thanks to my height, I'm basically a 4.5 on the looks scale and the only thing I have to win girls over is my personality. Which explains why I've done so fucking poorly with women.

Girls really don't have to compete with other women. The only do so if they want the "best" guys. Girls who are 6's are still in high demand. The only things that stops a girl from getting guys, is her own standards.


D) I personally know many girls who are having trouble finding guys, and they are all sitting lonely worrying that they might never get married. So yes girls are struggling as hard as you do. But you don't think of them why? Because these girls are unattractive so you don't care about them, similar to how girls don't care about you because you are such a loser. There are tons of fatties/cougars/ugly chicks who are single and desperate and you guys aren't talking about them at all here.
Fatties can work out, eat less. Cougars had their time. Ugly girls aren't that common.

C) I totally believe that the problem with getting a partner is expectations. Most girls have a template for guys: Good job with good degree, fairly tall and decent looking, fairly cool and have decent social skills etc. Guys like these are in HIGH demand and the girls can't get them easily. However they will all wait around to try to snag one rather than to settle for someone outside of their expectations.
And that's my issue. Women would rather be single then be with me. It's a real ego buster when you know that nothing really is better.
Similarly, all guys desire a girl who is hot, pretty, cute, look good. These girls are in HIGH demand and a large percentage of the guy population won't end up with one. Yet they won't consider the cougars/fatties/uglies that are more in their league and would rather wait around and complain in sosuave.
Guys are far more likely to settle than women are. It's much more common to see situations where the guy is higher quality than the girl instead of vice-versa. How many fat guys do you know that have thin girl friends?
 

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tony-montana said:
i agree with you man. but if you're like me and dont give a sh1t about what women want, all is good. take me for example...

im 26 and live at home alone with my dog, i dont have a job or a license or a car. all i got is my mouth and i'm pretty damn good at what comes out of it. im not showing off but i sometimes just amaze myself how good i am with women. i can go to a club right now and score hotties if i want to just by the way i play my moves on them. i am a cheeky bastard and bullsh1t like no tomorrow just to get laid. (eg, i told a girl i was in the navy and we made out within ten minutes, i sh1t you not!! < long time ago though) - i bring girls to my **** crappy 2 bedroom tiny house and fuk girls on my bed with my dog barking non fuking stop in the other room. these sort of things dont last long but i keep changing girls quite often lol. now to get a long term gf, thats another story! but if you are confident and can talk utter bullsh1t, you are funny and charming... you got game!
Yeah if a woman is very hot, gorgeous, sexy, attractive, cute, she is automatically considered girlfriend material right from the start, she really doesn't need any other qualities, if she has other positive qualities it's a plus, good thing but not a must-have. But even if a man is very hot and handsome, in great shape, he looks like a younger Brad Pitt, but if he has no confidence, is boring, has no life, no passion, no goals, women will not accept him. Whether it is for a relationship or one-night stand.
 

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I'm not saying that it's a good or great thing to be bratty, boring, have no life, have no passion, have no confidence, it's just that i'm saying that us guys, men have to work on ourselves way more than women do in order to make ourselves attractive.
 

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Because women are entitled princesses who live in fairytale land. Most of them who want the "perfect" man wouldn't know what to do with him if they got him. And most of them are far from the "perfect" they want.

You have to remain "indifferent" to their nonsense and just strive to be a better you. The silly little twits will follow.
 

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initiatorhater06 said:
:mad: Seriously, it's like in order for men, guys to be successful with women, girls, we have to be perfect everything, it's like the list of positive qualities that women look for in men is way longer than the list of positive qualities that men look for in women. Seriously, women, girls they just have to be hot, pretty, cute, look good and automatically they are girlfriend material for us guys. Us guys, we have to have a life, we have to have things going for us in our life, we have to love ourself, we have to have confidence, we have to have goals, have a passion for something, it comes down to the way we talk to people and socialize, social skills and conversation skills, have the right attitude, or just a good, great attitude, the right way of thinking, the right mentality, we have to walk right, sit right, stand right, breathe right, think right. We can't be clingy, needy, desperate. Most of us guys don't care if a woman, girl is a bratty person, boring life or boring personality, has no life, have no goals, have no passion for anything, they can be clingy, needy or desperate and still get a boyfriend or get action. I'm not saying that being needy, desperate, clingy is good thing, it's just ****in' hard to not come across like that.
Your logic is ridiculous.

If you WANT something from a girl, you HAVE TO give her something IN RETURN. She is not going to give you sex because you can get to Level 4 in Grand Theft Auto, she is not going to give you sex because you know how to get free porn on the Internet, she will give it up if she GETS SOMETHING OUT OF IT. Can you make her laugh? Can you stroke her ego? Can you cook like a chef? Can you give her great sex?

You have to LOOK AT IT FROM HER POINT OF VIEW. What does a girl get to be with you? To hold your hand? to hug you? to kiss you? to give sex? She gets a guy who has NO life, NO confidence, NO passion, NO ambition, NO friends, NO money, NO personality, NO looks, but can name all the best porn stars? That is NOT A GOOD TRADE FOR HER.

You wouldn't sell your car without getting something in return for it, so why would a girl give up her body without getting something in return for it?
 
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