Why can't we stop saying this nonsense about career/finances??

[Fzatf]

for the love of fukk, when are you going to ban Trump? All he does is parody opposite of everything I say

Just put him on ignore. If he's going to troll everything you post you gain nothing by continuing to converse with him.

 

[bigdave17]

I have a huge selection of the hottest NYC women in upper social tiers, 10-20 years my junior.

At any time I have a rotation of 3-5 of these type women with hardly any effort. My girls include not only 9s, but some are mini- or full celebrities, affluent trust fund babies, or from high-status families.

I attribute most of my success to looks and confidence/charisma. Money/status is the added bonus that cements me as the golden goose as opposed to the nightly fvckboy.

Dave, your problem is simply confidence. Genuine confidence in a facet cannot be present without a previous track record of success in that facet. You need to put yourself out there, pop your cherry and succeed to build the confidence naturally exhibited above.

That's the problem though

I'm very confident at making friends and very good at it because I've had a million friends in my lifetime

how do I convince myself that I'm good enough to have a hot 24 year old high quality GF if I've never done it before?

 

[zekko]

I see the same bullsh*t advice regurgitated a million times on a million different forums. The advice of "forget about chasing women in your 20s, focus on your career and dating will happen naturally in your 30s.

The reason so many guys have greater success with women in their 30s is not simply because they make more money. It's because they have spent their 20s improving themselves in many different categories. That includes social skills, and that includes dating skills. In your 20s though, your PRIORITY should be on your career. I spent a lot of time on my social skills when I was in my 20s, but there were also times when I had to put girls and dating aside to concentrate on more important things. By the time you get into your 30s, everything should be coming together.

how do I convince myself that I'm good enough to have a hot 24 year old high quality GF if I've never done it before?

How is a 24 year old girl any different than the "million friends" you say you've had? You spend a lot of time talking about how great you are, why do your knees suddenly turn to jelly once you get around a pretty young girl? That's the antithesis of masculinity. Like Guru says, you need practice. That practice, that experience, is what you are lacking. And you specifically need practice with the girls you find desirable. You're at optimum age to date these girls, you're going to have to start putting some effort in.

 

[The Diver]

I still spent friday nights beating off at end of the night and having zero dating life because
* I thought it wasn't good enough* and that women are impossibly unreasonable.

And your problem is you are still thinking you're not good enough.

There is a gold advices in this thread, but none of them will help you OP, until you'll fix your inner worthless feeling you carrying with you since childhood, you can be a fu*cking milioner you'll and still find dating high quality women hard as fu*ck.

(Not trying to discoreging you OP, just repeating advice given to you few hundreds posts earlier. Your revelation in this post is nothing new, we're all know that confidence and social skill are important traits to have , but those are not your real problem, you're " searching for the lost coin under the wrong light post")

 

[bigdave17]

The reason so many guys have greater success with women in their 30s is not simply because they make more money. It's because they have spent their 20s improving themselves in many different categories. That includes social skills, and that includes dating skills. In your 20s though, your PRIORITY should be on your career. I spent a lot of time on my social skills when I was in my 20s, but there were also times when I had to put girls and dating aside to concentrate on more important things. By the time you get into your 30s, everything should be coming together.

Meh, you don't need to cut back how much you focus on getting a woman to be very successful in your career

I've wanted a girlfriend desperately since I was 15 to no avail and I'm top 0.01 percentile in the country financially

How is a 24 year old girl any different than the "million friends" you say you've had?

In reality it's not

In my head it's much much harder. In my head, the hot 24 year old girl is the hardest thing in the world to pursue...which is why I can easily make friends with very attractive and successful people and then struggle to get a single fukking date

 

[bigdave17]

And your problem is you are still thinking you're not good enough.

There is a gold advices in this thread, but none of them will help you OP, until you'll fix your inner worthless feeling you carrying with you since childhood, you can be a fu*cking milioner you'll and still find dating high quality women hard as fu*ck.

(Not trying to discoreging you OP, just repeating advice given to you few hundreds posts earlier. Your revelation in this post is nothing new, we're all know that confidence and social skill are important traits to have , but those are not your real problem, you're " searching for the lost coin under the wrong light post")

I agree 100%

 

[Who Dares Win]

what about men like me who are young, good looking, in shape, insanely successful, have a good social circle but are still permanently single?

For what I recall you remind people of niko bellic from grand theft auto 4..not exactly what western young women put in their top preferences

 

[bigdave17]

For what I recall you remind people of niko bellic from grand theft auto 4..not exactly what western young women put in their top preferences

I have slight Eastern European features but I'm considered plenty handsome in real life. I get compliments everywhere I go on a constant basis

I don't like white women anyways, I'm into ethnic women - I love Latinas, middle easterners, etc... Most people think I'm actually Spanish or Puerto Rican

 

[Who Dares Win]

I have slight Eastern European features but I'm considered plenty handsome in real life. I get compliments everywhere I go on a constant basis

I don't like white women anyways, I'm into ethnic women - I love Latinas, middle easterners, etc... Most people think I'm actually Spanish or Puerto Rican

It's no my intention to be harsh for the sake of being harsh, but usually when you are white and you see someone who looks like niko bellic or borat, you try to play safe and just tell them that they look spanish or italian.

When you uploaded your picture here if I recall correctly someone said that you remind of an armenian taxi driver, nothing wrong with your look its just that women nowadays are into other types.

Getting compliments everywhere you go means that you are either really goodlooking or you seem disturbed and people try to keep you in a good mood.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I have slight Eastern European features but I'm considered plenty handsome in real life. I get compliments everywhere I go on a constant basis

I don't like white women anyways, I'm into ethnic women - I love Latinas, middle easterners, etc... Most people think I'm actually Spanish or Puerto Rican

Some male homeboys from those cultures will be your key.

 

[bigdave17]

It's no my intention to be harsh for the sake of being harsh, but usually when you are white and you see someone who looks like niko bellic or borat, you try to play safe and just tell them that they look spanish or italian.

When you uploaded your picture here if I recall correctly someone said that you remind of an armenian taxi driver, nothing wrong with your look its just that women nowadays are into other types.

Getting compliments everywhere you go means that you are either really goodlooking or you seem disturbed and people try to keep you in a good mood.

I actually have people speak Spanish to me all the time without even asking - they automatically presume I'm Spanish or Puerto Rican. I was getting it constantly in Miami and even in the Spanish areas of Chicago. I've had a few people tell me in real life I look a little bit like Ricky Martin. I get a crazy amount of compliments from Spanish speaking people - so many of them say I'm extraordinarily handsome. I've had multiple very attractive Spanish girls who said I was very handsome but they were all single moms (1 wasn't but she was a 19 year old college student, I'm not going to mess around with that, I'm nearly 30). I would probably dominate dating if I lived in Mexico, Puerto Rico or even Brazil.

I have dark Mediterranean features but I prefer that in women also, although all the women I've had sex with have been white girls. The best looking one was this beautiful 34 year old Serbian chick who was crazy into me (but I wasn't interested in dating her either, she was a single mom)

 

[bigdave17]

Some male homeboys from those cultures will be your key.

what do you mean? I have lots of friends from multiple different cultures now

 

[sosousage]

i dont agree with anything you say. your argument is "im rich but i cant get sex, therefore women dont care about rich guys, im in shape and dressing well but cant get sex, therefore women dont care about well dressing fit guys" (btw if it was true then women would be chasing all these obese antisocial jobless ugly joes)

women care mostly about look. maybe you are not as handsome as you think. maybe your head has potato shape or whatever.

your first date will depend on her decision in first 3 secs that is based on LOOK.

then, if she has more options, and probably she has, she will ask about things like JOB, car, etc

 

[bigdave17]

i dont agree with anything you say. your argument is "im rich but i cant get sex, therefore women dont care about rich guys, im in shape and dressing well but cant get sex, therefore women dont care about well dressing fit guys" (btw if it was true then women would be chasing all these obese antisocial jobless ugly joes)

women care mostly about look. maybe you are not as handsome as you think. maybe your head has potato shape or whatever.

your first date will depend on her decision in first 3 secs that is based on LOOK.

then, if she has more options, and probably she has, she will ask about things like JOB, car, etc

I don't ever get dates with anybody decent

With the women I have gotten dates with, 90% of them wanted to be with me long term

If I ever got any dates with anybody decent, I would have a GF in a heartbeat. My "presentation" on dates is excellent - I can sell myself very very well.

 

[ohrein]

I'm so confused with you, Dave. You can get women, they want to date you, you're a successful guy, you're good looking. I read all your threads and I'm always left scratching my head as to what your deal is. You're way above me in SMV but I have no problem finding women I want to date, and I consider myself and have been told I'm very picky. (Which you have to be if you're looking long term!). So I'm really not sure exactly what you can do to solve your problem. Either you don't play the numbers game, your standards are absurdly high (unicorn level) or your choke around women who actually meet your standards. If it's numbers, you just need to keep meeting women. If it's your standards, you'll need to drop them. Trust me, there is no such thing as a perfect woman (I know you've said you just want a dateable 7, but seriously, maybe your 7 is another guys 11. As I said, my SMV is WAY below yours and multiple people have called my GF an 8 and said she's 1-2 points higher than me). If it's choking then you need to keep reminding yourself these women are just humans, not something special. Every interaction I have with anyone day to day, I try to make it fun and friendly. Meet a guy at the grocery store? Chat and have fun. Meet a woman in her 50's, same thing. But again, you've said you have no problems socializing so. I just dunno with you, man.

 

[guru1000]

That's the problem though

I'm very confident at making friends and very good at it because I've had a million friends in my lifetime

how do I convince myself that I'm good enough to have a hot 24 year old high quality GF if I've never done it before?

By starting slow, building momentum, and changing your sexual strategy.

You need to change your belief system and stop being a soulmate sniper looking for the BIG GREAT CATCH. Instead, open up your net and shop for MANY.

Women can sniff out your thirst within moments of meeting you. It is extremely difficult to find a quality contender walking around like a thirst bucket, "Please, please, fill my bucket." KILL THAT DESPERATION by changing your need, at least temporarily. CHOOSE to date many just to have fun. As you do this, and succeed with many, you will build genuine confidence. With this newfound confidence, you will find the one you seek quite easily.

I have a selection of the best women available only because I don't seek to lock them down. Though, I could choose to anytime I desire to. The irony.

Antidump said it best:

You should be free as a bird, flapping around, singing, full of joy with life. Women want to catch the bird and throw it in a cage (cage = commitment).

When birds try to fly into the cage, wouldn't you think something is wrong with that bird? After all, who wants a bird that WANTS to be in the cage? No, women want the birds that are FREE, WILD, and BEAUTIFUL. They want A GOOD CATCH. Good Catches do not fly into cages. Only wounded or needy birds do.

 

[bigdave17]

Ior your choke around women who actually meet your standards. .

^^^^ that

as a result of feeling like women are impossible and have impossible standards

 

[bigdave17]

Your made up statistics reflects your mindset/frame.

Actual numbers according to the Wall Street Journal indicate that 2% of millennial females make $100k. Not 0.0000001% or whatever your imagined number is. Millennial women making $60k is about 7%.

isn't millenial also include 30-38? I guarantee you those numbers are very heavily tilted towards the 34-38 range than 24-28. I'm not dating anybody over 28

also those numbers are heavily skewed towards women who live in Manhattan/San Francisco type areas where 100K ain't sh*t. I make 180K in an area where a beautiful 3000 square foot house can be had for 350-400K. You would have to make 400K to live my quality of life in Manhattan/San Fran

 

[bigdave17]

By starting slow, building momentum, and changing your sexual strategy.

You need to change your belief system and stop being a soulmate sniper looking for the BIG GREAT CATCH. Instead, open up your net and shop for MANY.

Women can sniff out your thirst within moments of meeting you. It is extremely difficult to find a quality contender walking around like a thirst bucket, "Please, please, fill my bucket." KILL THAT DESPERATION by changing your need, at least temporarily. CHOOSE to date many just to have fun. As you do this, and succeed with many, you will build genuine confidence. With this newfound confidence, you will find the one you seek quite easily.

I have a selection of the best women available only because I don't seek to lock them down. Though, I could choose to anytime I desire to. The irony.

Antidump said it best:

I agree

big part of the problem also, because I very heavily exaggerate women's standards and feel like they are so impossible, I feel intense pressure to come up with the perfect opening line and say the perfect thing so I end up not approaching at all in most cases

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm so confused with you, Dave. You can get women, they want to date you, you're a successful guy, you're good looking. I read all your threads and I'm always left scratching my head as to what your deal is. You're way above me in SMV but I have no problem finding women I want to date, and I consider myself and have been told I'm very picky. (Which you have to be if you're looking long term!). So I'm really not sure exactly what you can do to solve your problem. Either you don't play the numbers game, your standards are absurdly high (unicorn level) or your choke around women who actually meet your standards. If it's numbers, you just need to keep meeting women. If it's your standards, you'll need to drop them. Trust me, there is no such thing as a perfect woman (I know you've said you just want a dateable 7, but seriously, maybe your 7 is another guys 11. As I said, my SMV is WAY below yours and multiple people have called my GF an 8 and said she's 1-2 points higher than me). If it's choking then you need to keep reminding yourself these women are just humans, not something special. Every interaction I have with anyone day to day, I try to make it fun and friendly. Meet a guy at the grocery store? Chat and have fun. Meet a woman in her 50's, same thing. But again, you've said you have no problems socializing so. I just dunno with you, man.

I bet he's pursuing a flaky, unreliable type that enjoys having options. Those types have to pursue you.