why are women nuts?

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Johnny Soporno said:
If a woman decides to have sex with whomever she chooses for her own reasons, because she wants to, without even the suggestion of a formalized social-contract, she's labeled as a SLUT, and told she's "got no self-respect" because she's 'giving herself away'...

We label women who behave like men as SLUTs.
Bull****!

They are labled "empowered".



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Revolutionary? No, sir you are not. You represent something old, something very old.
 

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Luthor Rex said:
Johnny Soporno said:
If a woman decides to have sex with whomever she chooses for her own reasons, because she wants to, without even the suggestion of a formalized social-contract, she's labeled as a SLUT, and told she's "got no self-respect" because she's 'giving herself away'...

We label women who behave like men as SLUTs.
Bullsh!t! They are labled "empowered".
Ah, Luthor! Thank goodness YOU are one of the enlightened few who 'get it'!
To people like ourselves, such women are fully respected and appreciated for their self-emancipation, and their personal empowerment - never denigrated for choosing their own paths!

The 'We' in my comment "We label women who behave like men as SLUTs." was describing the overwhelming majority of men, and virtually all women, in our society' who rabidly defame any woman who leads her life her way, sleeps with people for amusements' sake, or doesn't endeavor to find a 'contract *hor*' status, with a single client, and generate babies, allegedly his.

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By David Quinn

Looking Beneath Her Make-Up

It is necessary to dispel a few myths about woman. She is wonderful at giving the appearance of possessing qualities she does not in fact have. Many a man has lost his soul to her, only to find later, when it too late, that he had been duped. The illusion is incredibly powerful and requires the utmost sincerity of purpose to see completely through it. Just observing the way women present themselves is enough to convince one that something's afoot. Their otherworldliness positively reeks out of the light frilly dresses, the lipstick and eyeshadow, the diamonds and ornaments, the flowing movements, the happiness on tap. They seem to have no place in Nature's realm of blood and guts and faeces. The closest they come to tangibility is by way of abstraction - thought-stuff is what they are made of and nothing more. How on earth did the relentless unforgiving process of natural selection produce such daintiness?

It was the males who formed a buffer between the females and the dangerous world outside. It was their role to deal with the life threatening situations that regularly cropped up. So while men evolved the necessary courage and strength to succeed in this role, the females were left free to develop the delicate charms of femininity.

The tribe, and later, civilization, became islands of security, relatively free of the forces of natural selection. Female evolution went off at a tangent thereby; she became weaker, more fragile, less equipped to deal with physical threats. At the same time, she evolved a more subtle kind of power, one whose evolutionary purpose was to enchant man and place him under her power.

And to this very day, woman continues to weave her magic spell in the safety of her cocoon. Man provides her with this cocoon because he loves her so, and a woman instinctively knows that it is her primary task in life to preserve this state of affairs by ensuring he remains satisfied with her. That is, she must remain feminine.

Now, femininity is not something which springs spontaneously into existence with the birth of a female. No, it is the result of long years of training in which the female must shed vast tracts of her mind in order to be able to submit, defer, acquiesce, giggle, flirt, cajole, stroke, pamper - and remain happy about the whole thing. What else can this be called but a long drawn out labotomy in which the mind dies a slow death? One can only feel for those few spirited females who must go through torture in this process.

What little there is left of her mind must be employed with great cunning. Her feminine skills must be used discriminately to ensure maximum reward, for she has little else to call upon should they fail. Her years as a teenager are ones of constant endeavour in the perfecting of this art. Appearances, gossip, and boys are the lifeblood of her existence. It is vital she thoroughly learn the art of influencing the male world to her own ends. Failure here can only mean one thing: to endure the most horrible of all punishments - that of being unwanted.

Seduction forms the frontline of her being. With skill and confidence it can prove a most effective weapon. Yet it is fragile, and works only in a narrow range of conditions. Woman needs a role and a stage in order to function, and so it is lucky for her that theatre actually rules the world and there is little else in our culture apart from seduction.

Outside of these necessary conditions, the bubble of woman is easily burst. Yet, paradoxically, she is always infinitely secure. She possesses an impregnable line of defense which can be called upon at any time, under any circumstance: that of caving-in completely. By thrusting her mind into the chaos of her emotions she can escape into a realm in which nothing exists. Deep in her heart, woman knows this; indeed, it almost seems a source of inspiration to her. "Smug" is the adjective that first comes to mind when one observes woman, albeit it is a smugness born of unconsciousness rather than arrogance. The most determined of feminists and the most pathetic of waifs are both equally - smug.

Behind the glitter and dazzle of woman lies an emptiness which goes nowhere. The great skill of woman - her art par excellence! - is her ability to point beyond herself. All her movements suggest a source hidden deep within her. Man looks and looks - but finds nothing. He exclaims, "Woman is a mystery!" And no wonder! Nothing exists there to be found! Woman is purely the superficial, whose superficiality so skillfully persuades to the contrary. For she has no depth - there is not one bit, not one tiniest fraction, not even one slither of this fraction of anything other than the superficial.

Her powers of deception here ultimately originate in her not actually possessing a self, for woman is completely selfless. This is not the selflessness of the fully enlightened sage, but that of a child or an animal - that is, of a being who has not yet formed reflective consciousness to any significant degree. Having no self, she is able to respond spontaneously to her circumstances without the all the baggage that comes with existing. She never experiences the need to conform her actions to ethical principles, and this gives her a confidence and an inner glow that is looked upon enviously by men.

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Given the limited range of options open to her, and the necessity for success within them, it should be clear that the notion of woman being somehow less competitive and selfish than man is completely false. She is as every bit as egotistical as man, and her competitive nature would do any man proud. It is just that her egotism is shaped differently to man's. Indeed, part of her egotism consists precisely of giving the impression that she possesses little or no egotism.

A woman is continually locked into fierce struggle with other women. It is easy to be fooled into thinking otherwise, that women are above such petty activity, but if you look closely enough you will see it. Their one and only concern is status. Their one true happiness lies in being seen to be superior to other women. Marriage, children, houses, looks, clothes, lovers, ornaments, wealth, politics, social and artistic activities - these are just some of the things she can call upon as visible signs of success in the great game of womanhood.

At the same time, she is always scrutinizing other women for the presence or absence of these same visible signs. When two women meet, embrace, smile and have a chat, you can be sure they spend their time in conversation secretly analyzing one another. The man perched on the other's arm is scrutinized for his looks and wealth; children are examined and compared as to whose is brighter, cleaner, happier; there is the crucial matter of clothes, hair, wrinkles, and fat - the list is endless. It all involves looking for a sign that the other woman might have something over her.

However, it is love which is dear to a woman's heart, and in love she has the security of knowing that her position occupies the highest rungs of femininity. In this rarified atmosphere, the world is transformed, she has transcended the game, and there is nothing above her. She no longer has any need to look out to the world and anxiously check her current standing. Instead, her whole being reeks of the knowledge of her own superiority.

Her lover is mostly unaware of these processes occurring in her mind. He is just flattered that a woman of her beauty and virtue is devoting herself to him. He wouldn't like to think he is little more than a tool for her feminine aims. Although she lavishes all her attention upon him and dotes on him constantly, never wearying of observing him in all kinds of intimate detail, her happiness ultimately lies not in him but in being in love itself. The man himself is of secondary importance, a means to a higher end.

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Woman is an habitual worrier. She feels that her world is continually on the verge of falling apart. Her hair tends to keep falling out from the desired shape. Her clothes always seem crooked, her house untidy, her children hungry. There are a thousand little things for her to attend to. Accordingly, she has an eye for detail that the man does not. And because her brain has to incorporate this continual flux of detail and process it into a manageable shape, the woman's mind generally thinks at a much faster rate than the man's. Behind her composure, her mind is alight with thousands of tiny flashes of thought. In contrast, the male mind entertains fewer thoughts that come through less quickly and less urgently, but are capable of penetration as a result.

Her skill, as woman, is in manipulating the countless details of existence to her own ends. She is an expert in subtlety. Tinkering and prodding, using an apparent minimum of effort, is her art. She specializes in the subtlest of facial expressions and bodily movements, and the shaded nuances of emotion underlying her speech - so subtle, so natural, so effective at manipulating others. Man, by comparison, is a clumsy and cloddish brute who attempts everything with a sledge-hammer.

[..]
If the art of winning lies in the ability to conceal one's tactics and intentions, then it is no wonder that woman is so good at conquering man. She has honed to perfection the skilled use of contradiction and disguise. Just look at how she presents herself, for example, with her elaborate attire, make-up, ornaments, shapely dresses, tight-fitting clothes, together with her childlike personality - what is the meaning of all this? Is it simply a desire to be attractive? Yes indeed, but the purpose is always to conquer and control man.
 
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Firstly, her manner must advertise her sexuality. Whatever form this may take - from the subtle shapes to the more revealing, from the raunchy to the sophisticated, from ornamentation to facial expression - whatever form this may take, she must be able to grab man's attention and provoke his arousal.

Men must come to desire her, to want to get involved with her. But wait! The interested man immediately stumbles into a contradiction. Where he sees sexuality, he also sees innocence. Where he sees assertiveness, he also sees helplessness. Her childlike manner, her spontaneous laughter, her naivety, naturalness and unaffectedness - this seems to both heighten and diminish her sexuality, causing the man to be thrown head first into confusion.

Here is woman in perfect stride. She has deliberately presented herself sexually, indeed has spent many hours planning and pruning herself thus - and all for the purpose of manipulating the man. But at the same time, it is vitally important for this intention to be disguised. She acts to ensure that what man sees is nothing short of pure loveliness - a beautiful creature innocent, carefree, spontaneous, and submissive. The male is now at the end of his wits wondering how to approach her, and woman exploits this to the full. She is cast into the position of power, to use the authoritative Yes or No.

But this is not all, for a third factor immediately comes into play, one that provides real bite to her authority - the factor of otherworldliness.

Essentially, the otherworldliness of woman is related to mother. In appearance woman does not resemble mother, nor does she need to. Rather, she gains her transcendental power by analogy. Herein lies the true purpose of make-up and ornamentation: to enable the female to appear utterly distinct from man's own earthiness. This distinction, this barrier between her and all things of the earth, along with the physical triggers of odour and soft curves, is enough to revive the old infant emotions associated with mother.

The man is by now aroused, confused, and cautious. He aches for her with all his being, but now it is up to her to judge him worthy or not. If he should make as much as one false move, she can persuade him into thinking he is nothing more than a horrible monster! Or, in an instant, she can cause him to soar into the heavens with her glance, her smile, her touch!

These three factors - sexuality, innocence, and otherworldliness - comprise the arsenal which the female unhesitatingly utilizes in her attempts to bring man under her control. Her body is her hidden treasure, a gift reserved for the most select; from her innocence pour forth movements of pure clean melodies unsullied by cares and concerns; her otherworldliness bathes her in a sea of mystery, of mysteries eternally elusive to us mere mortals. Combine the three and you have the powerful illusion of completeness.

The plethora of contradictions which surrounds the female emanates from the complex interplay between these three factors. Being in full control of this interplay is the woman's art.

In conlcusion.

Because men 'let em'.
 

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Johnny Soporno said:
Ah, Luthor! Thank goodness YOU are one of the enlightened few who 'get it'!
To people like ourselves, such women are fully respected and appreciated for their self-emancipation, and their personal empowerment - never denigrated for choosing their own paths!

The 'We' in my comment "We label women who behave like men as SLUTs." was describing the overwhelming majority of men, and virtually all women, in our society' who rabidly defame any woman who leads her life her way, sleeps with people for amusements' sake, or doesn't endeavor to find a 'contract *hor*' status, with a single client, and generate babies, allegedly his.

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Oh I certainly see the world the way it is...

The women who behave like this are seeking their one true love: power. Power over men and power through men.

Many years from now, when they are in their old age and thier children will no longer speak to them and thier husbands have long ago left them these women will still have with them their one true love of power to keep them warm at night and to share their memories with.

As Scrooge was warned that he would only have his money to keep him company at the end of his life, these women too will be haunted by their ghosts and the lives they could have had.

Men will, no doubt, somehow be to blame for their life choices...

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Luthor Rex said:
The women who behave like this are seeking their one true love: power. Power over men and power through men.
Exactly! Although if you were to ask ANY of them, they'd tell you the opposite, that actually they are Good Girls - That they don't have sex with anyone except their boyfriend, and that they are trying to find an appropriate husband and to raise a proper family with him. And they BELIEVE it, that's the really insane thing!

These women, the ones who have-sex-for-profit only (ie, "Girlfriends", "Wives" etc) are thereby doomed to MADNESS because they have been forced to accept ridiculous notion that this is a noble and positive way to exist - despite its being IMPOSSIBLE for any women to live happily that way.

That's why I am striving so vigilantly to overthrow the societal dedication to the hysterical and illusory belief in female sexual exclusivity.

WOMEN do not need to be owned by a man in order to have value - it's up to US to help them understand it, by removing the notion of 'slut' (as a negative description, anyway) from human language.

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I'm not sure that women are 'nuts' as much as they are 'confused'.

Example: What attracts girls. We all know that a girl is really attracted to a guy because of his masculinity--and then she hopes that he treats her well, because if he doesnt, she is going to pine after him anyway. However, you see how different that is from what is drilled into a girl about the guy she SHOULD be attracted to--you know, the nice, sweet guy who treats her like the center of his world?

We both know what that leads to when she finally meets a guy who treats her the way she wished all of her previous boyfriends would've. She doesnt feel the same level of passion towards her new nice guy boyfriend, but the thing is, because of the messages that have been drilled into her since she was little, she thinks its HER. So she sticks around and tries to make it work, until the inevitable happens (she meets a masculine guy whom she feels mad attraction to). We say she led her boyfriend on, but in her own mind it's very different...
 

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Saw the Black Eyed Pea´s press conference this morning, they are in Moscow right now.

Their russian tour manager (good looking guy actually) gave a bouquet to the singer afterwards and wanted to kiss her cheek in russian fashion. Fergie jumped back as tho he had aimed a syringe at her cheek. Funny to see... what an uptight beotch.

Jeez, little things always tell so much about the whole (ever wondered why muslims pray with their aces to the West...=)...
American women are so fOcked up these days... heaven have mercy on you guys.
 
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joekerr31 said:
Fergie is one of those odd women where half the time i think she's about as hot as a woman can get and would love to tap that and then the other half of the time im thinking 'wash that make up off and she'd look like a shemale."

She looks like Rene Russo´s sister... and Rene Russo does have a cawk)))
 

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Rudra said:
She looks like Rene Russo´s sister... and Rene Russo does have a cawk)))
ya russo has the same thing going on. sometimes shes hot, sometime she looks like shes got a kawk.

they aren't actually sisters are they? they do look a LOT alike.
 
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Thats just the thing.

We are their slaves.

The system has been set up for us to give and for them to take.

What they have is society's blessing and support to do this so I assure you they have "it" whether its called stealing or not is irrelevant to them. They have it made, they have all the power since it is our slavery which gives them their power.
This doesn't apply to men - look at the world besides from a Eurocentric view! It only applies to those countries where the Hor Matrix was introduced! Asia Africa, Latin America, India, China - hell, everywhere on the planet - it is women who bow down to men - we are in control! Only when bastards accept the hor as a woman does he relinquish his power and this is the beginning of their/your downfall!!
 
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I would have agreed with you a decade or two ago... believe me when i say 'americanism' has succesfully inducted asia, india and the rest of the region injecting a strong dose of the Hor matrix into its veins. The media, internet, television, better communications has aided this phenomenon. Women don't bow down to men anymore. If you'd like to believe that its only the western or american women that are screvved in their heads, then that just means you are not travelling the world enough! Although, I'd like to say that the concentration of the 'matrix' may not be as severe as the wetsern parts. All said and done, the matrix is everywhere. If you american men think women from other cultures are 'better' you don't know what you are getting into. In one way, american women are better cuz there is no illusion of 'new money' to distort their ideals. Growing nations are seeing 'new money'.... this pervades the entire nation and affecting and changing the mentality and behaviour of majority of its people.
Yes, the Hor MaTRIX IS tring to be implemented worlwide - but it is not the majority yet -- there are still some/many women available in those countries I mentioned - in America there are none!!

Only when bastards accept the hor as a woman does he relinquish his power and this is the beginning of their/your downfall!!
 

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question.... do you guys think that some women are seeing the same things we are seeing? do you think they are aware of what is going on.

I gotta admit, i've known a few women in my time who see it. they tend to be women who don't behave like your average women.

they are harsher on women than I am (because they don't cut them any slack that they are behaving in the way they do due to behavior conditioning, which i do).

but even these women (who are men's greatest allies if you ask me) see this happening, but see it from a distance. which is to say they don't feel as strongly about it as we do.

its kind of like you know people are starving in africa, but its not something that weighs on you.

these women see the horish behavior of other women, judge it negatively, but then kind of disassociate from it.
 
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joekerr31 said:
question.... do you guys think that some women are seeing the same things we are seeing? do you think they are aware of what is going on.

I gotta admit, i've known a few women in my time who see it. they tend to be women who don't behave like your average women.

they are harsher on women than I am (because they don't cut them any slack that they are behaving in the way they do due to behavior conditioning, which i do).

but even these women (who are men's greatest allies if you ask me) see this happening, but see it from a distance. which is to say they don't feel as strongly about it as we do.

its kind of like you know people are starving in africa, but its not something that weighs on you.

these women see the horish behavior of other women, judge it negatively, but then kind of disassociate from it.
I never heard or saw another woman say anything negative about the fallen condition of women today! I have heard them say that it is about time women do what men do! They reinforce this decadent state and their kids are having abortions and babies out of wedlock and then bytch about how they (the grandmother) have to always take care of their daughter's child and now have to let their daughter and granddaughter live with them!
 

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question.... do you guys think that some women are seeing the same things we are seeing? do you think they are aware of what is going on.
I think the first women who will be the most powerful and forcefull in speaking up will the the mothers of men who are victimized by the culture / system.

I mean, mothers can be wrong can they?

Until then we'll always have Kelly Mac:

Kelly Mac said:
Lies The Feminists Taught Me, or The World Isn't What You Think

If you are around my age (40) or younger, you may be surprised to learn that almost everything you have been taught is a lie. In fact, I'd have to say that just about the only exception to this is mathematics. There is no gray area in math, only correct or incorrect, black or white.

Who's been lying to us? I'm glad you asked. The answer is: everyone.

Now, don't be hatin' on your neighbor or your teacher or your pastor. They're only passing on what they were taught. The original lies came from, you guessed it, feminism.

But why would the feminists lie to us? Wasn't feminisim instrumental in freeing women from the tyrannous yoke of male-dominated society? Aren't we really better off now?

In a word, no.

The fact is, the original conditions cited by the women's movement either existed in a way markedly different than what we were told, or they didn't exist at all.

Could women vote before the 19th amendment? Yes, they could. Not all women, but not all men, either.

Could women obtain a higher education before the women's movement? Yes, they could. Not all women, but not all men, either. Men and women attended different colleges, but both had equal access to education.

Could women get birth control? No, they couldn't. It wasn't available to anyone.

Could women work outside the home? Yes, they could. In fact, they very often did.

Could a man beat his wife with a rod no thicker than his thumb? Absolutely not. This has never been legal anywhere. There are references to this form of abuse being used way before the 19th century, but it was never legal.

Did boys all of a sudden just get stupid, and girls all of a sudden just get smart? Is it something in the water?? Of course not. We have radically changed the way we teach, to what feminism has dictated. And how much do girls and women need boys and men? Oh, yeah. Like a fish needs a bicycle.

It's time for re-education, my friends. My aim is to debunk the myths, one by one. That's a monumental undertaking, and I may not get to all of them, but each myth debunked is one step closer to the truth.

From time to time, I will be devoting blog entries to tearing down the false facades we have been taught to accept, and revealing the true structures underneath. I will post links to the blogs on the side of my page in their own section, and list them by title so you can easily find them. I will be posting my opinion (hey, it IS my blog), and will post as many facts, backed up with sources, as I can find. If anyone has any particular myth they would like to see addressed, just post a comment or drop me a line and let me know.

Put on your thinking caps, boys and girls. School is in session.
http://awomanagainstfeminism.blogspot.com/
 

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More Kelly Mac:

Kelly da Mac said:
What The Movement Has Taught Me About Men - So Far

In the time I have been involved with the men's rights movement, I have had the unique opportunity of listening to men who were pulling no punches, sugar-coating nothing. None of them were trying to be macho, or chivalrous, or accomodating, or any of the various behaviors we not only attribute to, but expect from, men in our western society. It was a little bit scary, and very much an eye-opening experience. In listening to these men as they talked to each other and to me, I learned something that has literally changed my life. It was this: men have feelings. Seriously. I hear what you're saying. "Everyone has feelings, duh!" This is true. But men are capable of far more integrity and depth of emotion than I EVER gave them credit for. A very wise man, whom I am proud to call my friend, told me,

"Look at your own son - at the pure and innocent way he can throw himself body and soul into something which interests him or something he loves. Few women appreciate the depth and intensity of emotion men have. When we love, we love with every fiber of our being. Manginas are proof that a man will give away everything for a woman he really loves.
That's how intense it is. The pain and anger they feel is just as intense. And it is justified. From the time they're boys, we inundate the males of our species with the message that they are brutes, and that the females of our species are their victims. Think about that for a moment. You're a little boy, who loves his whole world with the intensity of the sun, and you're inundated with messages from tv and school and the daycare provider and, heartbreakingly, your mom and even your dad. And the messages tell you that domestic violence only occurs from a male to a female, cause everyone knows that a male can't be hurt by a female. They tell you pedophiles only target girls, cause everyone knows that if a boy gets laid by his female teacher, he's a lucky bastard. They tell you men only think with their penis, cause everyone knows men are sex maniacs who think about sex 24 hours a day and rape women cause the penis rules . They tell you women need special advantages because they have been oppressed for hundreds of years by evil men (meaning all men, of course). I'm just scratching the surface here. None of these things are more than half true, if that, but you don't know that. Hey, you're just a little kid, and why in the world would everyone be lying to you? And besides, there's a really cool bug in the backyard, but better not show it to mom, cause you might be responsible for scaring her. By the time they grow up, it's no wonder so many men will do anything for a woman's approval. After all, they're brutes by nature and are damn lucky if a woman even lets them pick up her laundry, right? But some men, somehow, see through all the lies. Maybe it's just one at first. But when that one crumbles, it leads to another one, and another one, and pretty soon the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. Think about it again. You've grown up trusting the people you love to tell you the truth, and you realize it was all a lie. It wasn't their fault, they were doing the best they could, but they had been lied to as well. You feel betrayed by society itself, and the pain is white hot. I wonder if a person who has not experienced that kind of pain and loss can even imagine the intensity of it. I doubt it. Suddenly, you don't know what to believe. You can't trust your eyes anymore, because you've lost your frame of reference. I've experienced this myself, folks. It's extremely disorienting and frustrating and scary. But this was their gift to me. I "unplugged" as they call it. And now I can put my finger on what it was that was out of kilter. You see, I heard all those same messages growing up, and I believed that men couldn't be trusted, because they would oppress me if I let them. I believed men were brutes. And I thought of myself as enlightened and open minded, and I suppose I was, as far as that goes. But when I learned to let myself really trust these guys, I found that they had never lied to me, and that they had answered my questions candidly, and not patronized me. They treated me as they would have anyone they had no reason to trust. In other words, I was treated with equality. And you know what? It was a new experience. And because of that, I was able to see the Truth they were trying to show me. Now, for the first time in my life, I'm comfortable admitting my femininity (although I still have no use for flowers lol). Feminism has robbed us all of so much - of our very lives as they could have been lived. And that's a crying shame. But ladies, it doesn't have to be that way. Men can teach us how to live, and love, and not lie to ourselves anymore. We just have to give them a chance.
 
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