VikingKing
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White, middle class (or upper) are going to be a pain in your ass anyway. Go for a girl with an accent, they tend to have less bvllsh!t
Why are there so many threads about race?
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Most women hardly care about race at all if a guy is a high quality guy. White American women from upper middle class areas, suburbs, and upper class areas care a lot about race to the point that they reject guys who happen to be Brown or Asian, have 6 figure salaries, and are above average looking. The White girls you see in sororities at schools like UCLA or University of Florida care heavily about race. I don't even know if they would go for a guy like Mohinder from Heroes, Sanjay Gupta, or Jeremy Lin.
With all that said, I am still attracted to them the most. I am not as into brunettes or redheads as I am blondes. No doubt I have seen some stunning brunettes and even had some success with them, but I just prefer Blondes. Isn't a hair color thing, more of an image thing really.
I have noticed a lot better results with White European girls, some of them had blonde hair too but I guess I am chasing an image. I want the Lindsey Duke, the Hayden Panetierre, or the Heather Graham.
I want the girl that hangs out in popular social circles, happens to be a blonde, and is American. The girl that was in a sorority at her university or is a college girl in a sorority at her school. I know most of them are fake blondes but I want to be a part of that crowd, too late for me to rush a fraternity and I am almost done with school too so I wonder what I will need to do to get those girls after college.
Yet I have no clue how to get that kind of a girl. What kind of circles they run in after college, what kind of guys they like, etc. I also don't know how to be a part of that crowd since so many people in it from my experience aren't that open to allowing outsiders.
I know the kind of girls I like have a lot of negative stereotypes associated with them but I just want to experience being with a girl like that.
With all that said, I am still attracted to them the most. I am not as into brunettes or redheads as I am blondes. No doubt I have seen some stunning brunettes and even had some success with them, but I just prefer Blondes. Isn't a hair color thing, more of an image thing really.
I have noticed a lot better results with White European girls, some of them had blonde hair too but I guess I am chasing an image. I want the Lindsey Duke, the Hayden Panetierre, or the Heather Graham.
I want the girl that hangs out in popular social circles, happens to be a blonde, and is American. The girl that was in a sorority at her university or is a college girl in a sorority at her school. I know most of them are fake blondes but I want to be a part of that crowd, too late for me to rush a fraternity and I am almost done with school too so I wonder what I will need to do to get those girls after college.
Yet I have no clue how to get that kind of a girl. What kind of circles they run in after college, what kind of guys they like, etc. I also don't know how to be a part of that crowd since so many people in it from my experience aren't that open to allowing outsiders.
I know the kind of girls I like have a lot of negative stereotypes associated with them but I just want to experience being with a girl like that.
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Is ambitious player skinny guy? I think maybe so.
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I am going to use this post to clear up the whole me being a racist thing. I don't hate White men, I understand a lot of them go through the same struggles that I am going through. There are White guys out there who I have been friends with that have had the same struggles as me. The racism I have run into has come more from men of my own race who were jealous that I was doing well with women (girls from minority groups that is) and men from other minority races that felt threatened that I was approaching and talking to women.
Just don't get what it is with internet forums, they always attract the kind of White guys who are constantly preaching about how the White race is going extinct. You see these guys commenting on articles online and playing the victim card (irony since I am kind of doing that too right now), why should I give my pics to someone like that? Truth is there have been many cool White guys I have met that have made a difference in my life and helped me go from a sexless AFC to a much better position, my problem is that I want to keep improving.
Now I am not some FOB. Your average FOB would not join some internet forum asking for help on improving. He knows he is going to get that arranged marriage no matter what he does. The Brown guys joining these forums are more like Kal Penn, they are your average Westernized male who wants more for himself and wants to live the same lifestyle that the White kids he grew up with are living but has some issues with it.
The truth is I just hate the circumstances. I hate that I can be the Kumar from Harold and Kumar or the Dr. Gupta from CNN but still not land the blonde HBB simply because the stereotypes attached to my race are so bad in a given area which is why I am trying to find ways to improve that certain circumstance.
As addressed earlier, looks and game mean little if are a Brown guy attempting to land a blonde HBB in San Francisco because women there hate men of your background no matter how awesome or attractive you are. If they do like you then they have to worry about the harsh judgment from their clique about dating a Brown guy.
If I met a White guy who wanted to get with a Brown HBB and had traits that women like in a guy, I would try to hook him up with that Brown HBB if I could. What I am saying is that if someone like me wanted to get with a Blonde HBB, I would have to live with the fact that I would not get that help from a lot of my White friends. I have seen Brown HBBs with White boyfriends and husbands, had no issue with it at all but you can bet your ass if there is a Blonde HBB with a brown boyfriend or husband, society is having an issue with it alright.
Just don't get what it is with internet forums, they always attract the kind of White guys who are constantly preaching about how the White race is going extinct. You see these guys commenting on articles online and playing the victim card (irony since I am kind of doing that too right now), why should I give my pics to someone like that? Truth is there have been many cool White guys I have met that have made a difference in my life and helped me go from a sexless AFC to a much better position, my problem is that I want to keep improving.
Now I am not some FOB. Your average FOB would not join some internet forum asking for help on improving. He knows he is going to get that arranged marriage no matter what he does. The Brown guys joining these forums are more like Kal Penn, they are your average Westernized male who wants more for himself and wants to live the same lifestyle that the White kids he grew up with are living but has some issues with it.
The truth is I just hate the circumstances. I hate that I can be the Kumar from Harold and Kumar or the Dr. Gupta from CNN but still not land the blonde HBB simply because the stereotypes attached to my race are so bad in a given area which is why I am trying to find ways to improve that certain circumstance.
As addressed earlier, looks and game mean little if are a Brown guy attempting to land a blonde HBB in San Francisco because women there hate men of your background no matter how awesome or attractive you are. If they do like you then they have to worry about the harsh judgment from their clique about dating a Brown guy.
If I met a White guy who wanted to get with a Brown HBB and had traits that women like in a guy, I would try to hook him up with that Brown HBB if I could. What I am saying is that if someone like me wanted to get with a Blonde HBB, I would have to live with the fact that I would not get that help from a lot of my White friends. I have seen Brown HBBs with White boyfriends and husbands, had no issue with it at all but you can bet your ass if there is a Blonde HBB with a brown boyfriend or husband, society is having an issue with it alright.
When most people say brown, they mean Indian guys. AmbitousPlayer is right that many non-Indian women do not favor Indian men. But you just gotta keep on trucking. Im a black dude, and I know that many women will be open to white and latin guys before me...but I just try and find the gals who are into me.
It is what it is.
PS - Considering whites are still 60% of the USA, and ~85% or more of almost every other Western nation...yall aint going extinct.
It is what it is.
PS - Considering whites are still 60% of the USA, and ~85% or more of almost every other Western nation...yall aint going extinct.
SmooveMooves
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^ Amen to that P.S
I agreed with every letter Danger was saying until he said the white race was going extinct.
There's a reason they call us the minority, Danger I'm pretty sure your race is gravy for about another 200-250+ years. (See Jaylans stats, they're pretty accurate)
Now if you mean we'll all be a mixed race in the future....the far future, well yeah, I can see that, and if youre
one of those dudes who doesn't look foward to that I can sympathize.
I value culture and I hope it stays in tact.
As for you AmbitiousPlayer, you just gotta take down that pedastal dude. I can't even hear you anymore from how high it is. White Blondes are like Jesus is to Christians to you.
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results. So either improve your self and try again, or pursue women who your not against all odds with.
Cause Dangers right, even if you do luck out and get a cute blonde that's into you, the relationship won't last, because your pedestal for them is so high. You WILL undoubtedly be walking on eggshells. In the finest shoes for that matter.
And my point in saying " I know (insert race) that does well" Was to say its not impossible as you guys make it out to be, and as for the location it was NYC.
But, according to Skinnyguy NYC is a bad place too.
My whole issue is, the indoctrination of western society is real. I mean I always say its cool to have a preference, i like the white womenz and banged a good amout of them, but why are White chicks seen as the end all be all by minorities? Not that there's anything wrong with them but minorities might as well pray to white chicks every night.
Something ain't right.
So put a HB10 Indian chick next to a HB10 White chick (blonde) they're both Americanized, who will you choose?
White chicks are the same as any other chick, as Danger so eloquently put, you are not entitled to them, and they are not required to like you or "give you a fighting chance"
So what do you do? You improve yourself, get over it, and pursue women you have better odds with.
This pedestal needs to come down. And then maybe the Envy you guys have for white dudes will cease as well.
I agreed with every letter Danger was saying until he said the white race was going extinct.
There's a reason they call us the minority, Danger I'm pretty sure your race is gravy for about another 200-250+ years. (See Jaylans stats, they're pretty accurate)
Now if you mean we'll all be a mixed race in the future....the far future, well yeah, I can see that, and if youre
one of those dudes who doesn't look foward to that I can sympathize.
I value culture and I hope it stays in tact.
As for you AmbitiousPlayer, you just gotta take down that pedastal dude. I can't even hear you anymore from how high it is. White Blondes are like Jesus is to Christians to you.
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results. So either improve your self and try again, or pursue women who your not against all odds with.
Cause Dangers right, even if you do luck out and get a cute blonde that's into you, the relationship won't last, because your pedestal for them is so high. You WILL undoubtedly be walking on eggshells. In the finest shoes for that matter.
And my point in saying " I know (insert race) that does well" Was to say its not impossible as you guys make it out to be, and as for the location it was NYC.
But, according to Skinnyguy NYC is a bad place too.
My whole issue is, the indoctrination of western society is real. I mean I always say its cool to have a preference, i like the white womenz and banged a good amout of them, but why are White chicks seen as the end all be all by minorities? Not that there's anything wrong with them but minorities might as well pray to white chicks every night.
Something ain't right.
So put a HB10 Indian chick next to a HB10 White chick (blonde) they're both Americanized, who will you choose?
White chicks are the same as any other chick, as Danger so eloquently put, you are not entitled to them, and they are not required to like you or "give you a fighting chance"
So what do you do? You improve yourself, get over it, and pursue women you have better odds with.
This pedestal needs to come down. And then maybe the Envy you guys have for white dudes will cease as well.
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Smoovemoves: The truth is we ALL want that real life barbie doll lookalike, some psychology studies have proven this. It is like saying looks matter or bad boys beat out nice guys. Some of us are in denial about it, I have had Black friends and Asian friends that said "man white women ain't sh*t" but those same guys would aggressive get at the hot blonde that works through the door. Most of the times these guys would get rejected kindly (I actually remember it being all the time).
BUT with that said, I am putting them on a pedestal. I see them as the kind of women that guys who are attractive, handsome, and high quality themselves date (athletes, actors, well off guys, good looking guys, etc.).
I can't help it and wish I could but it is like that belief of me asking myself "why am I not good enough for them?". Like I just don't get it and it is frustrating. Sometimes I do feel that it has to do with my environment where these women are pedestalized to the max and people are not that welcoming of interracial couples.
I don't want a relationship, I just want the idea that such a woman is into me as I am constantly improving.
Jaylan: THANK YOU! Why do people think Brown means Black? Good lord! Still looking forward to hearing of actual Brown men having success with the kind of women I love.
Danger: Fair enough
I am around 6 ft tall, light brown skin (sometimes it turns olive), dark hair, dark eyes, and muscular build. Lately I have not hit the gym as much so I am putting on some chub but even when I was lighter I wasn't seeing results.
Facially I have a square jaw so I like to get a haircut that fits it.
I don't wear polo shirts, I wear button up shirts and blue jeans with some fancy boots when I go out. Overall I do research on local style and wear clothes
BUT with that said, I am putting them on a pedestal. I see them as the kind of women that guys who are attractive, handsome, and high quality themselves date (athletes, actors, well off guys, good looking guys, etc.).
I can't help it and wish I could but it is like that belief of me asking myself "why am I not good enough for them?". Like I just don't get it and it is frustrating. Sometimes I do feel that it has to do with my environment where these women are pedestalized to the max and people are not that welcoming of interracial couples.
I don't want a relationship, I just want the idea that such a woman is into me as I am constantly improving.
Jaylan: THANK YOU! Why do people think Brown means Black? Good lord! Still looking forward to hearing of actual Brown men having success with the kind of women I love.
Danger: Fair enough
I am around 6 ft tall, light brown skin (sometimes it turns olive), dark hair, dark eyes, and muscular build. Lately I have not hit the gym as much so I am putting on some chub but even when I was lighter I wasn't seeing results.
Facially I have a square jaw so I like to get a haircut that fits it.
I don't wear polo shirts, I wear button up shirts and blue jeans with some fancy boots when I go out. Overall I do research on local style and wear clothes
Bible_Belt
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You're a six foot tall Indian guy, and you're complaining about how rough you have it? :kick:
Even better, you're in the goddamn united states of America. I'm guessing there are hundreds of millions of Indians who would be very glad to trade places with you. Somehow I doubt the lowest caste Indians whose job is cleaning out sewers by hand would feel very sorry for you. I'm guessing they'd think you were just a complainer.
Even better, you're in the goddamn united states of America. I'm guessing there are hundreds of millions of Indians who would be very glad to trade places with you. Somehow I doubt the lowest caste Indians whose job is cleaning out sewers by hand would feel very sorry for you. I'm guessing they'd think you were just a complainer.
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But when you do pull a hottie who isn't white, don't ever downplay that success.
There is this, "She is pretty/hot, but I wish I was the guy leaving with the hot white chick" mindset out there.
I'm white and even (regrettably) thought this way very briefly years ago. My first ONS was a light skinned Latina. She was intelligent, charming, quite pretty, and amazing in bed. I should have been immediately thrilled about it, but I wasn't at first. Even though I found her very attractive, it was my first interracial encounter so the experience was new to me.
I got slightly insecure about it and though maybe I was too ugly for even my own race. I then stopped myself when I realized how pathetic that line of reasoning was. Even my wingman who was also white was drooling over her.
Then I was fine. I never had a problem with interracial hookups after that. I ended up hooking up with another Latina, an Asian, and a chick from Turkey. I never looked back after that.
The point of my story is a pretty girl is a pretty girl. There is this, "If she isn't white (or 100 percent white), that the hookup doesn't count or she is somehow a consolation price" mindset that a lot of guys have. It's really sad.
Actually, guys do this with many features, not just race.....
1. She isn't white. What's wrong with me?
2. She's short. I couldn't pull a tall chick. I suck lol.
3. She's older. I'm a loser because I prefer younger women and didn't get one.
Anyway, it's ok to have preferences, but don't ever downplay the women you are getting*.
*Unless you're pulling 400 lb warpigs regardless of race lol.
There is this, "She is pretty/hot, but I wish I was the guy leaving with the hot white chick" mindset out there.
I'm white and even (regrettably) thought this way very briefly years ago. My first ONS was a light skinned Latina. She was intelligent, charming, quite pretty, and amazing in bed. I should have been immediately thrilled about it, but I wasn't at first. Even though I found her very attractive, it was my first interracial encounter so the experience was new to me.
I got slightly insecure about it and though maybe I was too ugly for even my own race. I then stopped myself when I realized how pathetic that line of reasoning was. Even my wingman who was also white was drooling over her.
Then I was fine. I never had a problem with interracial hookups after that. I ended up hooking up with another Latina, an Asian, and a chick from Turkey. I never looked back after that.
The point of my story is a pretty girl is a pretty girl. There is this, "If she isn't white (or 100 percent white), that the hookup doesn't count or she is somehow a consolation price" mindset that a lot of guys have. It's really sad.
Actually, guys do this with many features, not just race.....
1. She isn't white. What's wrong with me?
2. She's short. I couldn't pull a tall chick. I suck lol.
3. She's older. I'm a loser because I prefer younger women and didn't get one.
Anyway, it's ok to have preferences, but don't ever downplay the women you are getting*.
*Unless you're pulling 400 lb warpigs regardless of race lol.
VikingKing
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White people are not better than any one else.
The only difference is this. Asian people, usually whiter skin theat white people, but some can be a little darker (in the southern regions.) But what do they have in common? Black hair, brown eyes. Black people, black hair, dark skin, brown eyes. Latino people; black or brown hair, dark skin, brown eyes. Indian people; black or brown hair, brown eyes, dark skin. Arabs, black/brown hair, dark skin, brown eyes.
White people; white skin, tan skin, pink skin. black, blond, dirty blond, brunett, red hair, and any combination of green eyes, blue eyes, brown eyes (personally mine are blue green and sometimes more blue sometimes more green).
White people do have more unique physical features due to the fact we have a wider range of possible combinations.
Whites aren't better, but we are more rare.
The only difference is this. Asian people, usually whiter skin theat white people, but some can be a little darker (in the southern regions.) But what do they have in common? Black hair, brown eyes. Black people, black hair, dark skin, brown eyes. Latino people; black or brown hair, dark skin, brown eyes. Indian people; black or brown hair, brown eyes, dark skin. Arabs, black/brown hair, dark skin, brown eyes.
White people; white skin, tan skin, pink skin. black, blond, dirty blond, brunett, red hair, and any combination of green eyes, blue eyes, brown eyes (personally mine are blue green and sometimes more blue sometimes more green).
White people do have more unique physical features due to the fact we have a wider range of possible combinations.
Whites aren't better, but we are more rare.
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I've been told straight up to my face that I am cute for a black guy many times. Insecure white men actually think that blacks and indians are slaying hot white poon on the reg. The only ones that actually agree with us are white guys that are experienced with dating white women.
SmooveMooves
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And provided those statistics, Danger, I reverse my opinion. Ill take your word for it. Almost half? That's crazy:
"Damn Nature, you scary".
And God damn it whites arent more rare. Wtf? How far did you reach in your ass for that one?
Sorry, but that was blatantly wrong information.
And Danger, I've slept with white women, but its not about that man. Its about the pedestal white chicks are on. People need to take white women off this pedastal. They're no better than any other chicks man, its annoying.
And Ambitious, no dog, everybody does NOT want a Barbie bimbo blonde. The media has you convinced most people and yourself want.
Cute chicks come in all different flavors. But, I think your a lost cause man. You'll learn soon enough.
Best wishes on your quest for a white chick, may your struggles come with great fortune.
I mean that seriously.
Last thing, from a movie:
"The leprechaun for Lucky Charms, every commercial his goal is to get to the end of the rainbow, and you know what happens everytime? He gets there and the cereals already gone."
Your not missing out on anything man.
"Damn Nature, you scary".
And God damn it whites arent more rare. Wtf? How far did you reach in your ass for that one?
Sorry, but that was blatantly wrong information.
And Danger, I've slept with white women, but its not about that man. Its about the pedestal white chicks are on. People need to take white women off this pedastal. They're no better than any other chicks man, its annoying.
And Ambitious, no dog, everybody does NOT want a Barbie bimbo blonde. The media has you convinced most people and yourself want.
Cute chicks come in all different flavors. But, I think your a lost cause man. You'll learn soon enough.
Best wishes on your quest for a white chick, may your struggles come with great fortune.
I mean that seriously.
Last thing, from a movie:
"The leprechaun for Lucky Charms, every commercial his goal is to get to the end of the rainbow, and you know what happens everytime? He gets there and the cereals already gone."
Your not missing out on anything man.
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because race is a main fact ire when it comes to the distribution of wealth and therefor access to women since women are a resource that tends to go to the alpha males first and in this culture the alphas are 95% white males..lolol
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Bs, this sounds like some mythical fairy taleDanger said:
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^^^lol dude its basic human carnal behavior of the human females to seek to make with the males with most wealth and power... if thats fuzzy tok you then...hmmm... you are in denial of reality
backbreaker
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it's the feet lol. and i'm tongue in cheek but i'm really not. white women have prettier feet then black women and i'm a foot guy. can't date a woman with ugly ass feet. I like women with high arches and pretty toes.
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Did it really get that much better when you moved out of the bible hell? I dont want to be a victim of the grass is always greener.backbreaker said:
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True but there are hardly any attractive White women out there who have slept with Asians, Indians, Arabs, and darker looking Latinos (not White or Black Latinos, I am talking George Lopez, Mario Lopez, and straight up stereotypical features Latinos).Danger said:
Its not "every type of guy before I settle" thing, its a "lets do a black guy so I can brag about not being a racist thing".
Why is why I don't get Black guys on this forum complaining about not being able to get White girls for dating or marriage, the only guys complaining should be those that aren't Black or White.
backbreaker
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Yes and no
I had figured out what I had to do while living in arkansas to get laid. So I had plates, even some half decent ones, but it's the fact that I had to put so much effort into them. I was always out, I was always trying to find plates and it was taking so much of my time and i was crashing and burning a lot.
It was just so much easier when I moved. I touched down in San Diego on a Wednesday afternoon, i get moved into my place and by Sunday I was going on a date with a chick I met who was giving me signs that were so ovboius, girls from little rock don't act like that.
it became so much easier that I found time to do other things, I would not have my web design business like I have it now if i lived in little rock, i would be spending way too much time trolling spinning plates. and women the quality of my wife, would most likely not give me the time of day, regardless of how hard i tried in little rock.
i would not change anything thought. I'm glad I was born in a small state at a disadvantage. It gave me a chip on my shoulder that I used as motivation to make something of myself. Not being top dog for a little bit was a very small price to pay in retrospect for the life I have now.
this is one of those things you need to move to see. I don't and never did have this problem. the girls I did spin, took me seriously. Because I take myself seriously
if a girl is not taking you seriously it's because you don't take yourself seriously. I'm not the type of dude that black **** chasers go after. I'm the type of dude that women who want a man that has their **** together go after.
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I said I was born and raised right here in the USA. I didn't come over at a late age and start to learn English. I understand you trying to help but do keep up with me when I say I am the farthest from an FOB and have had success with other races.Danger said:
I keep my hair short usually. For facial hair I go with a stubble, not a full grown beard.
Playing sports in college is almost impossible if you didn't get a scholarship after high school to play, especially if you go to a school with a competitive program
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The truth is, throughout my life White American girls (usually young) have been the ones to treat me like trash. I have had great experiences with every other kind of girls. Problem is I want to make up for my bad past with them. Like I feel uneasy around them at times and a lot of the ones I run into are more rude and confrontational than women of other backgrounds.
I want to fill the gap (pun not intended) and be able to finally do well with the one demographic I have always done poorly with. It is hard to put into words but I want to cover all that negativity in my past with them with positivity. It might not mean something to you guys but it does mean something to me, just how it works I guess.
What's odd about this is that I haven't interacted with White girls from other regions (outside of the bible belt). I hear White women on the west coast and up north are somewhat more open minded but I am starting to think that only applies to Black men and not men of other races.